Who Supports OWS?

reply to post by phishyblankwaters


The integrity of the whole is only as good as the integrity of the few. If you seek change for the betterment of mankind then you can not afford to allow those who hate to be associated with the cause. It would do the OWS good to distance themselves from the likes of the Nazis right away lest the message be lost before it could be heard. This is sound advice that should not be disregarded. Instead of defending the Nazis right to be there all OWSers should be divesting themselves from them. Not snuggling up.

The same goes for all the groups listed in the OP. You can not have a virtuous protest whilst harboring hate mongers. It is diametrical to the movement.

OT-
Skuly, that av is cute.

There are fringe goups, Glen Beck is one, that listed some of the supporters of OWS. Alex jones' site give me a headache with all that lizard stuff, I'll have to rely on the kindness of strangers to report what he said.
Glen Beck doean't give me a headache because that's my brother's gig. I get Beck in synopsis form, the same as TOWIE.

yeah, nazis support OWS ???
does it surprise you ? nazis always did fight for nationalism, against big bankers and capitalism, while their chief in command is getting all the money he can from those corrupt bankers ( Bush, daddy, remember with the nazis ??? ) just like the teapotparty gets its money from the KOCH billionaires !!! just the same .. it's all about deceiving people, but you think therefor OWS people defend nazi ideology ?

come on, it's not because a nazi puppet says he's supporting OWS that this means anything good ....
manipulation, manipulation and still manipulation ..
try to understand who is manipulating the strings in the shadow of the actual disaster !!!!
OWS is not stupid, OWS is conscious about the manipulation and lies, OWS is just average people, not any longer the puppets they want us to be !

reply to post by phishyblankwaters

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
by leveling the playing field (one of the REAL demands is that the corporations, banks, and "elite" pay their fair share, not more, just what they are supposed to be paying before the loopholes and tax breaks.) you almost over night produce more tax revenue.

Thats a 100% true and goes in the right direction... plain and simple economic reality.

I wish people would learn more about economic relationships and how this "mess" could be fixed, instead of spreading fear about the "oh so inevitable" meltdown.

I a Brit support the Occupy movement which by the way started in Spain.

People have a voice it cannot be heard in the ballot box, protest is the only answer.

I find it difficult to understand the angst on ATS re these protests, it was protesters who helped sway the end of the Vietnam war.

We should be celebrating the fact that people are waking up.

I thought ATS was full of those who had problems with the status quo.

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by DerbyCityLights

 

For the life of me, I cant understand how other OWS supporters here can remain supporters while knowing who is climbing in bed with OWS.

Am I supposed to stop supporting clean drinking water if the American Nazi party comes out in favor of that same thing?

Seriously guys, this is more pathetic than the endless anti-obama threads.

guilt by association, that last ditch efforts of shills when backed into a corner

edit on 18-10-2011 by phishyblankwaters because: (no reason given)

Funny.
Yet those like yourself lambast the Tea Party at every turn.

Ahhh, the wonderful irony.

I supported the Tea Party as well, only When I found out about them it was just before they were hijacked...then that was very short lived and I was sorely dissappointed then, Hoping this movement though "Supported" by these whackos listed in the OP, I have yet to see them hijacked by them...And if they do, well, they'll lose my support, as well.

Originally posted by marzabeth
reply to post by phishyblankwaters

 

The integrity of the whole is only as good as the integrity of the few. If you seek change for the betterment of mankind then you can not afford to allow those who hate to be associated with the cause. It would do the OWS good to distance themselves from the likes of the Nazis right away lest the message be lost before it could be heard. This is sound advice that should not be disregarded. Instead of defending the Nazis right to be there all OWSers should be divesting themselves from them. Not snuggling up.

The same goes for all the groups listed in the OP. You can not have a virtuous protest whilst harboring hate mongers. It is diametrical to the movement.

I wholly agree with what you said, I hope soon for some OWS'ers to formally nationally on the 6 oclock news to really make a statement about these so called supporters and how they will NOT allign themselves, nor acknowledge their support, etc.

reply to post by dizzylizzy


I felt the same way Miss Named after a Beatles song. I think it's more so that most of the people getting on trying to find holes in the OWS movement are people who like to complain and find problems with anything. Instead of trying their best to get "noticed for their wonderful discovery ousting the horrible OWS movement for what it was" they should be out there trying to STEER the movement in the direction they see fit.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


I can't support OWS for a few reasons, none of which are political. I am all for people standing up for them selves and trying to be heard through protests, strikes, sit ins whatever you think you need to do to get your voice heard. It makes me happy to people coming together for a cause. BUT, something I can't get out of my head is that for some reason that I can't put my finger on, I have an overwhelming feeling that this is going to end up extremely violent and in a disaster somehow and I don't want to be a part of that. I also can't help but wonder......this is the middle of a school year right now, I know you people don't all have kids, but, some of you do and your choosing to camp out and walk around with a sign instead of being there for your kids and making sure they are educated properly and attending school and being a proper parent, it seems very irresponsible to me. I can't be a part of something that is in effect responsible for child neglect of any kind.

Originally posted by billy197300
reply to post by thehoneycomb

 

I can't support OWS for a few reasons, none of which are political. I am all for people standing up for them selves and trying to be heard through protests, strikes, sit ins whatever you think you need to do to get your voice heard. It makes me happy to people coming together for a cause. BUT, something I can't get out of my head is that for some reason that I can't put my finger on, I have an overwhelming feeling that this is going to end up extremely violent and in a disaster somehow and I don't want to be a part of that. I also can't help but wonder......this is the middle of a school year right now, I know you people don't all have kids, but, some of you do and your choosing to camp out and walk around with a sign instead of being there for your kids and making sure they are educated properly and attending school and being a proper parent, it seems very irresponsible to me. I can't be a part of something that is in effect responsible for child neglect of any kind.

You mean being effectively indoctrined through our educational system?
I think that they should be home, and home schooling there kids because public ed is crap. I support OWS but I am here with you about they should be home with their kids...I don't go because of my kids they are in public school though, Wish I had time to homeschool mine, but I am doing my own school online. So they have the school system to indoctrinate them. :/

I don't support any party of any kind. That being said, if those parties I do not support want to get involved then so have them. That doesn't stop me from planning on going next week. Even if this is all one big Psych Op move and although I am highly skeptical about Soros's and Obama's comments on the situation, I figure that the more people you have down there who know what they're talking about and protesting for, the better. So I'm not going to let any controversial party or any comments from corrupted powerful people mislead my judgement. Those types of things are aimed more at the large groups of people who are just there because they are following the crowd; the people who show up because it's something to do/something they think they're interested it. But the bigger the knowledgeable part of the protest gets, the better. So if you know what is worth protesting for than go! The more knowledge leading the center of the protest, the more likely it is for the protests to make a difference. Right now, though, this kind of attitude of not supporting the protests due to disagreements with some of the participants is the worst thing you can do. If you have a solid, knowledgeable opinion, there is a core group of people inside these protests who share the same opinion. Find them, multiply, and try to dominate the protest with no party bias. The more people you have down there who understand that, the better.

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by thehoneycomb

 

And your point is? In this "free" world we apparently live in, people are allowed to "support" whichever things they feel like, and the support of a group in no way belittles the people being supported.

Keep trying, your pathetic attempts will surely gain you cheers and applause from the usual crowd.

One thing though, which is how I opened this post, what is your point?

Not what you guys were saying when the Conservatives and namely the Republicans got on board with the Tea Party......

why the double standard.......

reply to post by ldyserenity


I wanted to homeschool as well. Alas my child loves going to school each day and being an only child I see the benefit of her being around her peers. I do however undo the indoctrination every day when she comes home. I still homeschool not with 'school work' but I endeavour to teach her to question everything, to use critical thinking skills, to dig deeper than what is on the printed page and what is fed to her through the media. We explore art and poetry, music and nature...I just try to fill in the gaps and give her a more well rounded experience than the severely lacking one at the public school. I view the public school as simply another tool in her education. She is learning how to deal with many types of personalities, learning how to function in a large group and be part of a society.

Originally posted by marzabeth
reply to post by ldyserenity

 

I wanted to homeschool as well. Alas my child loves going to school each day and being an only child I see the benefit of her being around her peers. I do however undo the indoctrination every day when she comes home. I still homeschool not with 'school work' but I endeavour to teach her to question everything, to use critical thinking skills, to dig deeper than what is on the printed page and what is fed to her through the media. We explore art and poetry, music and nature...I just try to fill in the gaps and give her a more well rounded experience than the severely lacking one at the public school. I view the public school as simply another tool in her education. She is learning how to deal with many types of personalities, learning how to function in a large group and be part of a society.

I, as well, do that with my children. That's exactly why I agree, nobody should be neglecting their child to go to the protests, they like I can support the cause in other ways. Or they can go for the school time and come home when their child is home...I haven't got that option as I have no vehicle at this time.

Isn't it amazing how a thread such as this provides such poignant information as to who is backing the Tea Party, and the supporters come out to poo poo the information. Well OWS, the truth is out and you cant hide behind it. It is that blind faith that scares me the most.

Originally posted by Sunlionspirit
OWS is not stupid, OWS is conscious about the manipulation and lies, OWS is just average people, not any longer the puppets they want us to be !

I doubt it. This world is just layers upon layers upon layers of control. OWS is just another of those layers and the participants are puppets in a class warfare skit that's one act in the very master production that they think they're revolting against. No doubt the powers-that-be couldn't be happier with the way things are progressing.

Originally posted by billy197300
reply to post by thehoneycomb

 

I can't support OWS for a few reasons, none of which are political. I am all for people standing up for them selves and trying to be heard through protests, strikes, sit ins whatever you think you need to do to get your voice heard. It makes me happy to people coming together for a cause. BUT, something I can't get out of my head is that for some reason that I can't put my finger on, I have an overwhelming feeling that this is going to end up extremely violent and in a disaster somehow and I don't want to be a part of that. I also can't help but wonder......this is the middle of a school year right now, I know you people don't all have kids, but, some of you do and your choosing to camp out and walk around with a sign instead of being there for your kids and making sure they are educated properly and attending school and being a proper parent, it seems very irresponsible to me. I can't be a part of something that is in effect responsible for child neglect of any kind.

where does the initial violence come from ??? from the people or from the system killing all human life and behaviour and food and drinking water .... ?? ask yourself and you will sleep better tonight, because do not confuse everything please .. the violence comes from the $$$$$$$ greedy system ....

Originally posted by SavedOne

Originally posted by Sunlionspirit
OWS is not stupid, OWS is conscious about the manipulation and lies, OWS is just average people, not any longer the puppets they want us to be !

I doubt it. This world is just layers upon layers upon layers of control. OWS is just another of those layers and the participants are puppets in a class warfare skit that's one act in the very master production that they think they're revolting against. No doubt the powers-that-be couldn't be happier with the way things are progressing.

no, I do not think so, they are afraid now, very afraid and want this all to stop, but how ?
the powers in place ( the PIP's ??? lol ) want this to stop and try to discredit as much as possible this whole world wide reflexion and questioning .... impossible to stop anyway with such a internet solidarity and conscious being/thinking .... internet is a gift from the capitalist system that wil destroy the neo-capitalist one !!! think about it .....
suicide from the system by the system !
we are just aware man that this will happen, hopefully without the violence by the greedy 1 % !! ......
that is the most dangerous part of it ... either peacefully, either they start a world war 3 ( why not ? it's
possible ), either they start a war in Iran by Israel and then try to stop the democratic revolt up there at the same time .... they are panicing man, they are like devils now, be aware !

reply to post by Sunlionspirit


www.tylershields.com...

look at this please and try to understand this sheeeety world we live in where children die from malnutrition and poverty ....
the 1 % is crazy !!!
the 99 % do realise it !
so what ? which side do you choose ? think about your karma please !!

Let's see.

We have one element that supports socialism.
Another that supports communism.
Another who supports capitalism.
Another element that represents House Democrats.
Another element that favors the Unions.
Another element that opposes Unions.
Another element that supports ending the FED.
Another that supports, no racism.
Another element that supports racism.
Another that openly supports Nazism.
Another that opposes the 1%.
The other is the 1%.


Each sponsors the movement.
If I had to guess the wolves that aren't wearing sheeps clothing, are just wolves wearing wolves clothing.
Yet those who support this movement claim that it is a non-violent, peaceful movement.
My guess is that violence will irrupt any minute now.

What am I going to do about it?
I am going to sit at home and watch on TV.
As this movement conquers and divides itself.

Happy protesting!