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Originally posted by jrsdls
I don't think Bush made the Vietnam war and his participation a center point of his campaign. I do know that when we were attacked on 9-11 Bush said he would not allow another attack on our soil and we have not had one. Kerry said check my records, I did. Why are you not concerned that we have someone who will do anything to look good. Maybe you will when we have to ask France for permission to do anything in the world.
Originally posted by goose
What did you come up with on Bush's medals?
Originally posted by goose
What did you come up with on Bush's medals?
Originally posted by goose
What did you come up with on Bush's medals?
Originally posted by mpeake
Originally posted by goose
What did you come up with on Bush's medals?
I love it! Every godamn time someone questions Kerry's medals, some a hole jumps in and bash's Bush for not going to Vietnam. It is Kerry's own damn fault for having his military service the focal point of an already weak campaing. He has nothing else in his elected government record to help him out so he fell back on the idea that American loves thier military. What he didn't count on was people to do thier homework and question the legitimacy of his medals. Threee medals in Four months?!? Some service men go thier whole career (while serving during wartime) and don't get one. You don't think he had some outside influences helping push that along? I've said it befire, I think he has had his presidency planned out for him since childhood. The medals were just a stepping stone along the way.
And before you start flaming me for being a Bush propoganda pushing fool, I'm not voting for Bush either. I'm just sick of people who can't address this serious issue without throwing Bush's record back in the faces of those who are intellegent enough to smell some deceit.
Originally posted by mpeake
Originally posted by goose
What did you come up with on Bush's medals?
I love it! Every godamn time someone questions Kerry's medals, some a hole jumps in and bash's Bush for not going to Vietnam. It is Kerry's own damn fault for having his military service the focal point of an already weak campaign. He has nothing else in his elected government record to help him out so he fell back on the idea that American loves thier military. What he didn't count on was people to do thier homework and question the legitimacy of his medals. Three medals in four months?!? Some service men go thier whole career (while serving during wartime) and don't get one. You don't think he had some outside influences helping push that along? I've said it before, I think he has had his presidency planned out for him since childhood. The medals were just a stepping stone along the way.
And before you start flaming me for being a Bush propoganda pushing fool, I'm not voting for Bush either. I'm just sick of people who can't address this serious issue without throwing Bush's record back in the faces of those who are intellegent enough to smell some deceit.
[edit on 30-8-2004 by mpeake]
Originally posted by goose
As for Kerry's military record it has been proven to be the real thing.
Um, no it has not! Perhaps you should keep up on current events...
www.suntimes.com...
Perhaps you should read how all the swiftboat ads have been debunked.
No, perhaps you should show us the evidence that these ads have been debunked because I, and the rest of the world, have been digging deeper into Mr. Kerry's background and have come up with corroborating evidence to support many of the contentions laid out in the ads.
www.newsmax.com...
The swiftboat ads are lies and that is a well known fact. The vets who were there have testified as to how Kerry got his medals, Rassman himself the vet who Kerry pulled out of the river under enemy fire while wounded himself put Kerry up for one of the medals and was disappointed he did not get a higher medal.
Really!?!? That's funny cuz Kerry and Rassman are telling two completely different stories...
www.dmtc.com...
Now who's telling the truth, cuz someone is lying and I bet you can only guess who it is.
Perhaps you should ask yourself why the Bush people have to attack the veterans I named above its because Bush's military record is not good, the Lieutenant Governor of Texas at the time Bush joined the National Guard has come forward and said that he used his influence to get Bush into the National Guard, as a pilot a unit that for sure was not headed to Vietnam, does that not tell you what kind of man Bush is? His party bashes vets for going but tries to hide the fact that he did not go and made sure he did not go by using his Daddy's influence.
Let's first begin with the obvious... Bush is in NO WAY affiliated with the Swift Boat Veterans. Until you or one of your ilk can provide definitive proof of such you should immediatly drop the libelous claims. Speaking of Libel, if this is all untrue, why hasn't John Kerry filed a libel suit against them? Think about that for a moment! Also, isn't it a bit petty and hypocritical to condemn Bush for a 527 that he has already denounced when they have only spent $3M dollars on anti-Kerry ads while Kerry has questionable affiliations with multiple 527's that have spent over $100M on anti-Bush ads?
www.cnn.com...
www.msnbc.msn.com...
www.blogsforbush.com...
Now as for the atrocities you say he committed, he did not say he committed those atrocities, that is from his testimony and he said he was told by other vets about seeing these things while in Vietnam.
WOW!!! You're right! In fact, people who hadn't even served a single day in the military ginned up those claims and like a moron Kerry went and relayed those claims to the US Congress without even attempting to verify them... WHILE MEN WERE STILL FIGHTING AND DYING OVER THERE!!!
Kerry did not bring his military record up the people trying to oppose him did, do you blame him for responding and defending himself on it? I don't!
UM, yeah, he did. Does the now-famous line "John Kerry Reporting For Duty" sound familiar to you??? Keep in mind, this is right after he was ferried accross the river in a re-enactment prior to his convention. Have you already forgotten about the film he showed that had fake bullets super-imposed???
Originally posted by kozmo
Let's first begin with the obvious... Bush is in NO WAY affiliated with the Swift Boat Veterans. Until you or one of your ilk can provide definitive proof of such you should immediatly drop the libelous claims.
There is evidence that at least loose associations exist: A veteran who appeared in one of the ads, retired Air Force Colonel Ken Cordier, resigned over the weekend from his position on the Bush campaign's veterans steering committee after his dual roles were made public. In California, the Santa Clara County Republican Party included a posting from the Swift Boat group on its website.
One of the group's most generous donors, Houston real estate mogul Bob Perry, who has given $200,000 to help fund the attack ads, is also a major backer of Republican candidates and a longtime associate of Bush's senior political adviser, Karl Rove.
Records show that the group received the bulk of its initial financing from two men with ties to the president and his family - one a longtime political associate of Mr. Rove's, the other a trustee of the foundation for Mr. Bush's father's presidential library. A Texas publicist who once helped prepare Mr. Bush's father for his debate when he was running for vice president provided them with strategic advice. And the group's television commercial was produced by the same team that made the devastating ad mocking Michael S. Dukakis in an oversized tank helmet when he and Mr. Bush's father faced off in the 1988 presidential election.
Originally posted by marg6043
People get over it bush is a liar and a coward and Kerry is a hero and got medals so now suck it up and deal with it.
Originally posted by marg6043
People get over it bush is a liar and a coward and Kerry is a hero and got medals so now suck it up and deal with it.