Occupy the Supreme Court!

Originally posted by SeleneLux

Originally posted by macman
Because you and others are not. The sole, blinded focus is just on banks.

Where have you been these past years? It is the banks that have taken the entire world economy and made it a ruin. Why should a fraction of society be allowed to do unethical practices that took down that entire planet and the majority suffer?

While the bootlickers protect this? We know the entire government is broken, but the banks have had a strangle hold on us all for way too long.

Dont be a bootlicker, it leaves that Nazi taste in your mouth!

Lemme guess.
You're an Obama supporter, right?

Originally posted by SeleneLux

Originally posted by macman
Because you and others are not. The sole, blinded focus is just on banks.

Where have you been these past years? It is the banks that have taken the entire world economy and made it a ruin. Why should a fraction of society be allowed to do unethical practices that took down that entire planet and the majority suffer?

While the bootlickers protect this? We know the entire government is broken, but the banks have had a strangle hold on us all for way too long.

Dont be a bootlicker, it leaves that Nazi taste in your mouth!

Yep, and I am sure that the "99%" chant will come next. So original

Sorry, but the Banks are allowed to do what they do, because of *Drum roll please* the laws past.
And who makes the laws?

Geez, I don't know, maybe Congress and such.


Again, mantra chants and putting the cart before the horse will get you no where.

The banks are people and have the right to file for bankruptcy, we should file it for them. They would forefit any property or liquidity to pay off their global derivitave bubble. The people would benefit, the banks would have to take responisibility the only legal way we can make them, and the world actually doesn't end this way.

However, you say you don't like what the Supreme Court is doing? You need a dictator to decide it, because they are lifers. Overruling the supreme court is a dictatorial act, overruling Congress is a dictatorial act, and giving that much power to a single man is dangerous.

There is a reason shepherds use 'crooks' to keep the flock in line. (Pun intended!)

Its not just the Supreme court, the state and federal courts are bought and paid for. In Idaho not only is Judge Lodge a known bank defender, the appeals court told him to stop being so unethical and go back to work. He didn't stop protecting the banks that he was heavily invested in. Also he was a partner of the firm Hawley Troxell who happens to be defending Fannie and Wells Fargo and others in the foreclosure crisis. He allows all their motions to dismiss regardless of the legality of the issue. They rule by opinion not by law. Also another firm protecting BofA "Eberle". The lead attorney was Judge Lodges clerk...The system is rigged far and wide. Occupy the court system to get these creeps out of the court systems is more like it, and no more life time appointments! Let the people elect their own judges.

oh and I speak not from theory or conspiracy. I know these people and I have read their opinions and am baffled at the nonsense they spew out in defense of the banks.

One case in point the bank admitted in their own motion to dismiss they didn't own the note...but the judge still ruled in there favor! Yeah that is what we are dealing with.

reply to post by sbctinfantry

...and that reminds me - I favor term limits for all elected and appointed government officials, including the Supreme Court justices.

Find the Occupy DC pages and suggest it to them! This is probally on the docket already!

Originally posted by outandopen
Its not just the Supreme court, the state and federal courts are bought and paid for. In Idaho not only is Judge Lodge a known bank defender, the appeals court told him to stop being so unethical and go back to work. He didn't stop protecting the banks that he was heavily invested in. Also he was a partner of the firm Hawley Troxell who happens to be defending Fannie and Wells Fargo and others in the foreclosure crisis. He allows all their motions to dismiss regardless of the legality of the issue. They rule by opinion not by law. Also another firm protecting BofA "Eberle". The lead attorney was Judge Lodges clerk...The system is rigged far and wide. Occupy the court system to get these creeps out of the court systems is more like it, and no more life time appointments! Let the people elect their own judges.

There's a reason the same documents you up to such high regard are the same ones that say you can not just throw the Supreme Court out on a whim. Our government was designed not to change based on public opinion, and the rule of law isn't doled out by a court of public opinion. If you don't accept responsibility as a people and admit that this same document protects the rights of all people, criminals as well, and that change is enacted through official channels, we are doomed as a nation and will end up with a dictator police state at the very least. More likely, one or all of our enemies are seeing this as the best opportunity to pounce on a weak America they will get, possibly ever.

If you don't like the judges, replace them when it comes time. Congress is the same way. Hold your officials accountable and the corruption stops overnight. They become servants once again. Stop protesting, stop the violence, and start looking at yourselves for real change.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Sanndy

 

I think that if you get people with hnesty and integrity in the White House and Congress then there won't be the continued graft from Wall Street and big business.

That is where you are being naive. Honesty and integrity in the White House and Congress? Power corrupts that is why the founding fathers made sure whoever was at the helm didn't have absolute power, you know the rest.

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you obviously don't understand how judges get their lifetime appointments in the Federal Court and you probably haven't read the ridiculous rulings they make. Whether it be shear laziness to learn and understand the particular area of law or their personal interpretations of the law. Or perhaps there connections. I have been in this system and I can tell you the fantasy of judges that rule by law and serve the public is far and few between.I don't have a personal case nor have I ever but I do have the privilege of reviewing them and am astonished at some of the remarks these judges make...emotional responses with no legal basis...voting doesn't do anything...if you still believe it does then pull off you blinders already.

Originally posted by outandopen
reply to post by sbctinfantry

 

you obviously don't understand how judges get their lifetime appointments in the Federal Court and you probably haven't read the ridiculous rulings they make. Whether it be shear laziness to learn and understand the particular area of law or their personal interpretations of the law. Or perhaps there connections. I have been in this system and I can tell you the fantasy of judges that rule by law and serve the public is far and few between.I don't have a personal case nor have I ever but I do have the privilege of reviewing them and am astonished at some of the remarks these judges make...emotional responses with no legal basis...voting doesn't do anything...if you still believe it does then pull off you blinders already.

And you elected the people who put them there, so what's your point?

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Lightworth
reply to post by beezzer

 

I'm no Constitutional expert, but I know it's a highly interpretive, therefore ambiguous enough, document. There are expert attorneys who can argue that many existing laws and policies today are un-Constitutional, and even IF not in the area of money-controlled government, that's no excuse for lacking basic intelligence and morality. Times change, attitudes and opinions change, consciousness evolves. 1789 was an incredibly long time ago.

It's not interpretive.
It's not ambiguous.

Show me where the US Constitution says that corporations are people.

Exactly, it doesn't. So, according to your own logic, corporations aren't people. Therefore, the US Supreme Court is being interpretive by allowing corporations to be people, and in that case you would be in favor of occupying the Supreme Court, as they are a direct cause of the current corruption in Washington DC via corporate personhood.

Contact your handlers and figure out how to reply to my post, and when you realize they have no answer for you, deflect and/or ignore.

Way to keep ATS at the forefront of ignorance denial.

Corporate personhood is one of the huge problems facing our country that allows parasitic wealth extraction. It goes hand in hand with campaign contributions. Don't worry though, the average person isn't smart enough to understand the real problems we face, so our corporate masters will continue to gleefully buy our politicians for the unforeseeable future, and continue to suck the Husk of the USA dry.

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It's like how during the BP Oil Spill ordeal that BP was caught red handed trying to lobby judges to file everything in Texas and was actively attempting to block actions in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida because the Judges in Texas were in their back pocket. Same exact case different medium!

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I'd recommend a Civics class. Our laws are written by the Legislative Branch of government.

Corporate Personhood-Wikipedia

As a matter of interpretation of the word "person" in the Fourteenth Amendment, U.S. courts have extended certain constitutional protections to corporations. Opponents of corporate personhood seek to amend the U.S. Constitution to limit these rights to those provided by state law and state constitutions.[3] Others argue that corporations should have the protection of the U.S. Constitution, pointing out that they are organizations of people, and that these people shouldn't be deprived of their human rights when they join with others to act collectively.[4] In this view, treating corporations as "persons" is a convenient legal fiction that allows corporations to sue and to be sued, that provides a single entity for easier taxation and regulation, that simplifies complex transactions that would otherwise involve, in the case of large corporations, thousands of people, and that protects the rights of the shareholders, including the right of association.

Corporations have found ways to avoid accountability for too long,using the Constitution to do so. It is preposterous to me that any business be treated and protected as a "person" enjoying the same rights and protections I do. But,I suppose if I had enough money at my disposal,I could buy my way thru anything,just like they do. Clever lawyers are worth their weight in gold,especially the ones that can manipulate The Constitution. Big money in that. Bah.

Maybe this will help..

reply to post by Lightworth


Quick fix? Judges to The Supreme Court shall be voted in and NOT appointed-Corporations shall not fund ANY politician for any reason ever,particularly financing election campaigns. Change starts there.

The End~

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Sanndy

 

Ok, here we go,
1. Anthrax is a biological agent, Not a firearm. You loose.

The constitution does not say FIREarm anywhere in it so YOU LOSE.

2. A nuclear device is not a firearm. You loose again.

No, still just you and whomever taught you to read.

3. Why are some people concerned with the "4 year figure head"? Because you and others are not. The sole, blinded focus is just on banks.

You lost all over the place here. It was an easy one too. All you had to do was read.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Sanndy

 

I think that if you get people with hnesty and integrity in the White House and Congress then there won't be the continued graft from Wall Street and big business.

So far though, I've yet to see ANY OWS crowd address that specific issue.

So go ahead. Bark at the folks bribing corrupt politicians. Then turn around and defend the same corrupt politicians.
*egads*

edit on 16-10-2011 by beezzer because: (no reason given)

That completely empty response was to me?
I do not get it. Do you think I am advocating for fraud and graft?
You guys have really run out of steam. This thread looks like a dying cat swatting at any change in the light it perceives without knowing why or what and never actually catching anything.

AGREED!

The Supreme Court is the worst branch of our political system.

When a person is "appointed" for life in a position and their say is always the final word on just about everything, then you have a dictatorship, not a democracy.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Sanndy

 

I think that if you get people with hnesty and integrity in the White House and Congress then there won't be the continued graft from Wall Street and big business.

So far though, I've yet to see ANY OWS crowd address that specific issue.

So go ahead. Bark at the folks bribing corrupt politicians. Then turn around and defend the same corrupt politicians.
*egads*

edit on 16-10-2011 by beezzer because: (no reason given)

Yes, and much of the corruption there occurs because of the Secret Society degradation, actually. Socialists attack the system, and yet the Illuminati have put their people into the system, in every aspect, to degrade it. The manipulation comes from the Illuminati, and incidentally, many ordinary Congressmen are corrupted by the Bohemian Grove style "Eyes Wide Shut" party consciousness. Then the Illuminati have something on otherwise ordinary people....