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Topic started on 11-10-2011 @ 06:00 PM by jjf3rd77

Ah the feel bad ideology. It seems no matter where I go I cannot escape it.

So, when I finally got to college, I thought I might be able to find some like minded people and even some "smarter" professors. Especially since I am going to a Christian College. I tend to lean more conservative on certain issues but am no way religious. I am agnostic. My parents who are more conservative and WAY more religious than me, wanted me to go to a school with religious stuff. I am interested in all religions anyway so this wasn't a problem. At first....

My religion classes are the worst!!!!! It actually goes so far to say that most Christians are liberal by taking a few lines from this liberal agenda written by the Pope www.vatican.va...

Is the school blind??? Brainwashed by the liberal agenda?

I just cannot understand how teachers are allowed to pick and choose things?? What's politics doing in a religion class anyway?? I want to learn about the history of Christianity, not get bombarded by a particular political agenda. "Big Gov't, greedy rich, help the poor. Republicans are brainwashed." I get that enough online and from the media!!!! I don't need to hear this from people that are supposed to be educating me without pushing an agenda.

In my three years now fourth year of college I have only met 2 conservative professors. But at least most of the liberal ones did not try to twist and turn beliefs and push an agenda onto their students like the religious ones do. Oh and the religious courses are required to take by the school.

I am shocked that more students are not protesting this. If you go to a religion based college wouldn't you expect to learn about the classical history of the religion in an unbias and effective way? I know a lot of my friends are conservative and highly religious but they don't seem bothered by the classes.

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reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 06:02 PM by LadySkadi

Colleges Teaching Socialist Agenda

That's what happens when you take Liberal Arts "type" courses ... Got to Business School, totally different.

reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 06:04 PM by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by LadySkadi

Colleges Teaching Socialist Agenda

That's what happens when you take Liberal Arts "type" courses ... Got to Business School, totally different.

Problem was I didn't quite know what i wanted to do with my life and changed my major a few times before I decided on computers. If I KNEW i wanted to study business and computers my freshman year I would have chosen a different route than this BS.

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reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 06:07 PM by nineix

If you're not a liberal when you're young, you have no heart.
If you're not a conservative once you've matured and grown old, you have no brain.

It's a fun saying, but, personally, I like balance, and making my own choices instead of picking a side and sticking to it. Liberal? Conservative? Who cares? What do YOU believe in, regardless of and without blanket labels?

reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 06:08 PM by LadySkadi

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All I'm saying is that Dept. are very different, depending on your study and frankly, I don't think what you're being exposed to is necessarily, BS. You will need to be able to think critically (out in the real world) and to do so, you must be able to consider and evaluate from many different perspectives. Having been exposed to both, you will be more valuable, then having only been exposed to one. If your major is too "Liberal Arts" for you, expand your education into a different field (use your electives) to broaden your base.

ETA: "You" = the general you

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reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 06:08 PM by Vardoger

"Especially since I am going to a Christian College"

Religious schools general don't teach their religions history in an "un-biased" way because usually, the population attending the school, has faith in that religion and why on earth would they want to change that?

You can take religious studies courses in regular university/college that actually teaches the good/bad of many religions.

reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 06:13 PM by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by Vardoger
"Especially since I am going to a Christian College"

Religious schools general don't teach their religions history in an "un-biased" way because usually, the population attending the school, has faith in that religion and why on earth would they want to change that?

You can take religious studies courses in regular university/college that actually teaches the good/bad of many religions.

Yes but the thing is...I thought most Christians were conservative and/or republican. Its not that I am shocked that I am learning the liberal side of Christianity. I am just wondering why there isn't a protest about these classes spewing lies about the religion that they claim to follow....

reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 06:19 PM by bozzchem

The only class you can take that provides examples of socialism actually working is an entomology class. ALL others can only "teach" you how it could work...if humans were like ants. We aren't like ants so it will never work for us. It's pie in the sky BS.

reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 06:23 PM by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by bozzchem
The only class you can take that provides examples of socialism actually working is an entomology class. ALL others can only "teach" you how it could work...if humans were like ants. We aren't like ants so it will never work for us. It's pie in the sky BS.

I know there was more contradictions in today's lecture than there are in the Bible itself. Just because I am not religious doesn't mean I can't read the bible!!!

"Government HAS to help the poor because the Pope says so."

Religion has no place in Gov't and vice-verse. I so wanted to ask him how exactly the government would do this. He would 100% say MORE taxes!!!!

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reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 06:23 PM by Vardoger

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I just had to mention that we are like ants.....as in that's one way designers design ground floor plans for best possible emergency exit efficiency.

reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 06:45 PM by Ghost375

You expected them to teach you things that make sense at a Christian school?

All kidding aside, I'm going to have to side with the school on this one. Mostly because I don't trust your summary of what they said. You sound like a ignorant kid. College is supposed to be a time where you learn things you weren't exposed to while growing up. It's a time to question your belief system by being exposed to alternative viewpoints. It sounds to me like you are suffering cognitive dissonance because things aren't like you imagined. For example, just because you're christian, doesn't mean you are conservative or republican. And just because you're republican doesn't mean you're christian.
Then, you seemed so surprised that professors can actually decide what to teach.

Instead of accusing others of being victims of brainwashing, maybe you should consider the possibility that you were brainwashed. In all likelyhood, if one party is brainwashed, then so is the other one.

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reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 07:04 PM by jjf3rd77

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No I'm suffering from school not teaching what it claims. Politics has no place in a religious class. Sure helping the poor has a place in religion but you can't teach kids that government HAS a moral obligation to help the poor. That's not right.

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reply posted on 31-10-2011 @ 03:17 PM by czqjtohypmdu

Is that a conservative part of town? Are there apprenticeship programs nearby?

Conservatives are more likely to take up an apprenticeship than liberals, so, frankly, colleges and universities have to follow the market. Everyone I've talked to who's had a religious post-secondary education did tend to adopt some left-leaning authoritarian values during their studies.

reply posted on 3-11-2011 @ 02:45 AM by UnitedSpiritualAlliance

Yea, I dont mind the liberal ideology taught in most schools. Theres alot I agree with, however I certainly also agree with the freedom of thought - to agree or disagree with curriculum. I remember one of my professors saying something along those lines...

reply posted on 3-11-2011 @ 03:42 AM by blamethegreys

LOL I just came across a piece of trash in my Mineralogy textbook a couple hours ago, in the Nomenclature & Classification chapter.

Apparently out of ~4000 named minerals on the planet, only 30-something of them are named after women. The authors were kind enough to provide a table listing all 30+ of em, just to twist the guilt knife that much more.

Keep in mind too that this is a 400 level class, and a hard science one at that. In fact it is so scientifically focused that I don't recall a single mention of Global Warming. (Which is highly unusual, cause geologists don't go to church on Sunday, they write papers on global warming! ;P )

reply posted on 4-11-2011 @ 01:46 AM by nowhearmeout

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I have some thoughts related to this subject.

I'm almost 25 and have attended four years worth of college, two at a private Christian college and the other two at a state university. Obviously I don't need to go into how much of a contrast there was between the two, but I had similar experiences at both regarding subject matter taught and viewpoints.

The second semester of my first year at the state university which I attended I was a Mass Communications/Journalism student, and thus was required to take entry level classes such as Intro to Public Relations, Intro to Advertising, and a general Communications Class. These classes were held in large lecture halls with around 300-350 students, and at the time I was unaware of the blatent half truths and whole lies they would be feeding us.

One class in particular I remember was in the Intro to Public Relations class. My professor spent an entire class session on explaining the history of public relations and the important figures which shaped the industry. To my surprise (but unaware at the time) the one person she focused most of her energy on was Edward Bernays, which is to be considered the father of modern day public relations. Not until a year later, researching under my own ambition for personal enjoyment did I realize one of the people who idolized Bernays was none other than Joseph Geobbels (Nazi Germany's Propaganda Minister). Also unmentioned was that Edward Bernays was the nephew of Sigmund Freud. If you have ever taken an advertising or public relations class I'm sure you understand what I'm getting at here. One has to understand that public relations/advertising/mass media are all connected to the same basic structure. To use subliminal subversion to persuade a subject or group without them fully aware they are being influenced towards an already pre-determined conclusion. The same techniques are used in every facet of entertainment and advertising today. You may not care if this would have been left out of the class, but in my honest opinion all the information should be shared. Only then can you critically analyze the information and the over all message being given. Because when you understand that modern advertising and public relations aims to influence you on a subconscience level, in doing so is essentially tricking you into thinking a certain way.

This universities journalism program was in the top three in the country, so needless to say they turned out a good number of students to work for main stream media. And of course teaching them the "correct" ways to report news and information set by MSM. The point I am trying to get across is the modern college structure is beyond flawed, its completely broken. In my experience the college's i attended did nothing to encourage individual ideas, or critical analysis. And when you have professors which are under tenure, its only a matter of time before their ideology is whats being taught, not just history or information.

College isn't what it used to be, theres no guarentee of employment after you graduate. The only guarentee is that you'll leave with a substantial amount of debt.

reply posted on 4-11-2011 @ 01:23 PM by jeklin110

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It's a fun saying, but, personally, I like balance, and making my own choices instead of picking a side and sticking to it. Liberal? Conservative? Who cares? What do YOU believe in, regardless of and without blanket labels?
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reply posted on 6-11-2011 @ 12:13 AM by SuperSmartGuy

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Ah the feel bad ideology. It seems no matter where I go I cannot escape it.

So, when I finally got to college, I thought I might be able to find some like minded people and even some "smarter" professors. Especially since I am going to a Christian College. I tend to lean more conservative on certain issues but am no way religious. I am agnostic. My parents who are more conservative and WAY more religious than me, wanted me to go to a school with religious stuff. I am interested in all religions anyway so this wasn't a problem. At first....

My religion classes are the worst!!!!! It actually goes so far to say that most Christians are liberal by taking a few lines from this liberal agenda written by the Pope www.vatican.va...

Is the school blind??? Brainwashed by the liberal agenda?

I just cannot understand how teachers are allowed to pick and choose things?? What's politics doing in a religion class anyway?? I want to learn about the history of Christianity, not get bombarded by a particular political agenda. "Big Gov't, greedy rich, help the poor. Republicans are brainwashed." I get that enough online and from the media!!!! I don't need to hear this from people that are supposed to be educating me without pushing an agenda.

In my three years now fourth year of college I have only met 2 conservative professors. But at least most of the liberal ones did not try to twist and turn beliefs and push an agenda onto their students like the religious ones do. Oh and the religious courses are required to take by the school.

I am shocked that more students are not protesting this. If you go to a religion based college wouldn't you expect to learn about the classical history of the religion in an unbias and effective way? I know a lot of my friends are conservative and highly religious but they don't seem bothered by the classes.

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Everyone has an agenda, even though who tell you others have an agenda. Even I have an agenda, I am trying to save humanity. That is my agenda. So what is your agenda?

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