99%? Who wants to be a part of the 100%?

Originally posted by Honor93
fine ... but why then are you intentionally muddying the waters?
Federalists were a historically relevant party ... to confuse the two is foolish

I never confused anything. You assumed I was talking about the party.

and btw, if you wish me to look at a specific post, link it

What? Nice try but you quoted that post in your reply. Right here.

Originally posted by Honor93

Originally posted by NoHierarchy

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

www.wnd.com...

he original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white, according to a new television program and book, which describe how the Democrats started the KKK and for decades harassed the GOP with lynchings and threats. Read more: KKK's 1st targets were Republicans

can prove it eh and want to cease and desist with tellin me what your do not the boss of me.

thought i was doing one outstanding imitations of the last potus..

edit on 12-10-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

The originators of the KKK were indeed Democrats... but these were NOT the same as modern Democrats. In fact, they were Southern CONSERVATIVE Democrats. The parties during the 19th century were quite different from the parties now.

you sure about that??
i can name 2 originators who were definitely NOT democrats or conservatives (as you perceive)

can you?
John P Kennedy - Whig (1st generation Republicans)
J Calvin Jones - Democrat (father was mayor of Pulaski / location of KKK origin)

let us know when your familiar with some of the historical rather hysterical truths

Well lets discuss the current home of White Supremacy in America, which is
American conservatism... This is the current truth, today...

Hear it from the horses mouth, Dr. David Duke Republican and Tea Party member



I am only going here because you guys keep pressing the phony BS.
David has plenty more FYI, wanna see em??? He talks about slackers
and commies too, you will like him.

Originally posted by Honor93

Originally posted by JustXeno

Originally posted by shogu666
If 1% can "earn" half the world then there is something wrong with "earning" , it is that simple.

Short, sweet, to the point. Best post of the entire thread so far.

perhaps ... but only if someone can name more than 6 of the 69,000,000+ 1%ers
where you see earning as the problem i see slackers as a bigger problem.

and before you go off on a tangent about those who had and lost ... i'm one of them ... i am referring to the level of educational knowledge displayed openly for the world to see ... ie ... slackers.

edit on 13-10-2011 by Honor93 because: (no reason given)

Hmmm off an a tangent you say, ok. I guess the lack of educational knowledge is aimed at me. All you have to do is look at some of my post's I've never claimed to have had an education, far from it.

If the slacker is aimed at me, well I did more physical work, and more hours(100 plus a week) before I was 30 than most would do in a lifetime.

But back on topic, If you think its fair that the poorest people who work there asses off for minimum wage, to try and get somewhere, and then to have the people at the top pull the rug out from under them time and time again, to accumulate more wealth than anyone could spend in 10,000 lifetimes, I don't really think it's me who's got a problem with how I see the world do you ?

reply to post by daskakik

i never assumed anything. i responded to your post as it is written.
you desire a different result, re-phrase your post.

Could this have been because republicans were federalist which forced federal government upon the confederate states?

now, i'm pretty sure you didn't mean what you posted, however, that is not for me to decide.
you posted what you posted and what it says is incorrect, period.

as for my suggestion to link the post you referenced as

3 posts below neos

is not the same post to which i responded. you want it considered, link it.

Originally posted by mastahunta

 

Well lets discuss the current home of White Supremacy in America, which is
American conservatism... This is the current truth, today...

I am only going here because you guys keep pressing the phony BS.
David has plenty more FYI, wanna see em???

edit on 13-10-2011 by mastahunta because: (no reason given)

you want to discuss the topic, open a thread of your own.
Duke doesn't belong in this thread ... the historical origin of the KKK in relation to the civil war remedies is one thing and applies to the topic ... this baloney, not so much.

reply to post by Honor93


You see you read it wrong. In that sentence federalist is used as an adjective not a noun.

Again it says "republicans were federalist" not "republicans were federalists". It Ok though we all make mistakes.

The post you replied to was indeed 3 posts below Neo's which was what I was responding to. Why would I need to link it when it was the one you quoted in your response and you quoted it again in the post I'm responding to right now, you just read it wrong.

Originally posted by JustXeno

Originally posted by Honor93

Originally posted by JustXeno

Originally posted by shogu666
If 1% can "earn" half the world then there is something wrong with "earning" , it is that simple.

Short, sweet, to the point. Best post of the entire thread so far.

perhaps ... but only if someone can name more than 6 of the 69,000,000+ 1%ers
where you see earning as the problem i see slackers as a bigger problem.

and before you go off on a tangent about those who had and lost ... i'm one of them ... i am referring to the level of educational knowledge displayed openly for the world to see ... ie ... slackers.

edit on 13-10-2011 by Honor93 because: (no reason given)

Hmmm off an a tangent you say, ok. I guess the lack of educational knowledge is aimed at me. All you have to do is look at some of my post's I've never claimed to have had an education, far from it.

If the slacker is aimed at me, well I did more physical work, and more hours(100 plus a week) before I was 30 than most would do in a lifetime.

But back on topic, If you think its fair that the poorest people who work there asses off for minimum wage, to try and get somewhere, and then to have the people at the top pull the rug out from under them time and time again, to accumulate more wealth than anyone could spend in 10,000 lifetimes, I don't really think it's me who's got a problem with how I see the world do you ?

suffering an inferiority complex are ya?
well, don't make it my problem.

i was merely making a point in a discussion ... you want to internalize it, that's your error, not mine. i never addressed your education level at all ... why would you assume otherwise?

the slacker comment is intended for everyone for whom the shoe fits.
a diploma, a degree, a certificate ensures nothing in the way of knowledge.

some of the best leaders and greatest minds in this country were OMG self-taught
guess we've climbed quite a ways DOWN the ladder, haven't we?

the hours of physical labor you contribute has nothing to do with the food you feed your brain.
your posts elude to the possibility that you may be nutrient deficient in that area.

and no, i don't think what you assume but then again, you haven't exactly eluded to your "outlook on the world" so, why would you assume again, that i must know something that you haven't shared?

oh and btw, i was working those kind of hours when i was 12 ... for -0- pay, just the reward of helping others and still went to school. you'll get no sympathy from me.

ya know, now a days when kids act up or act out ... parents just don't help the situation like they used to ... when we were given a "time-out", we got to choose a letter - A-Z - then we were given the corresponding encyclopedia with our letter choice. We had to read and learn ... sometimes it was 10/20 minutes, sometimes it was a few hours, depended on the subject we chose to explore.
that choice became our decision but we had to give a verbal report on what we just learned in order to earn our freedom. and not at age 15 or 18 but age 5 & 8 and onwards ... when we could read, we did and in my case, often. (i was a rebel from the get go)

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by Honor93

 

You see you read it wrong. In that sentence federalist is used as an adjuctive not a noun.

Again it says "republicans were federalist" not "republicans were federalists". It Ok though we all make mistakes.

The post you replied to was indeed 3 posts below Neo's which was what I was responding to. Why would I need to link it when it was the one you quoted in your response and you quoted it again in the post I'm responding to right now, you just read it wrong.

edit on 13-10-2011 by daskakik because: (no reason given)

this topic is not about grammatical error or syntax.
shame on you for derailing or trying to derail this worthy thread.

the word "because" makes it a prepositional phrase and improperly presented.
i don't agree with your summary regarding syntax and i'll leave it at that.
whatever dude, you're welcome to your delusion.
the bottom line here is this ... the republicans of that day were akin to communists not federalists.

We cannot just say that we want 100% for America.. what about our neighbors in Canada and Mexico? If there is a 100% movement is has to include every living person on the planetrregardless of national origin. The planet has been globalized. There is no way to go back to the 1950's. Isolationism is cultural and economic suicide. Look at North Korea.

There are still a lot of patriotic attitudes in various countries that need to be "eyes opened" before the next global wave of cultural revolution can take place. China needs to open up. Iran needs to open up. And the United States needs to shut up.

National leaders have tried every imaginable way to bring peace to the world and ended up fighting wars. Wars for territory, wars for resources, wars for winning the Hearts & Minds. But these methods have all resulted in furthering the political power of those making decisions! In this way we have ended up in a 99%/1% situation.

The primary method for getting to 100% has already been demonstrated... it is the internet. The internet may turn out to be the ultimate weapon for peace because throughout modern human history information has always translated to power.

reply to post by Honor93


Not really much I can say to that apart from ouch, I hope you enjoyed writing that.

Inferiority complex. Maybe.

Hours of labour and food for the brain. I was merely pointing out that you can work hard, and still find the rug pulled from beneath your feet.

Nutrient deficient. Could be but more probably a serious head injury, when i was younger that impairs my ability to concentrate. But that was below the belt.

My outlook on the world. It needs a fundamental change, otherwise there won't be a world if we keep along this path.

Your punishments as a child. I'd have to say your parents were quite smart as I use something along those lines when needed with my own children, and it does work as both of them are on a gifted and talented program at school.

Originally posted by Honor93
this topic is not about grammatical error or syntax.
shame on you for derailing or trying to derail this worthy thread.

the word "because" makes it a prepositional phrase and improperly presented.

This thread is not really all that worthy.

Your argument that the word "because" makes the phrase prepositional is just a cheap way of getting out of saying I misread. How sad.

I have no problem living in my delusion. I do it every day. Your interpretation of things does nothing to change my reality no matter how much importance you place upon it. After all it's just your interpretation.

Originally posted by daskakik

This thread is not really all that worthy.

He says on page 52.

This thread has created much debate on the theme of inclusiveness, Tea Party, OWS, capitalism, communism, socialism.

I, myself, have enjoyed this very much.

reply to post by beezzer


The ppl at the top have gamed the system with the derivatives ponzi scheme.

They have bribed and blackmailed the politicians into doing what they want.

Laws have been broken yet justice is not done.

When the ppl at the top can subvert the system there is no unity.

When the ppl at the top treat the less wealthy like serfs then there is no unity.

When the ppl at the top send the jobs overseas there is no unity.

When the ppl at the top make $1,500 trillion in global derivatives to bankrupt nations,
rob pensions, 401k's, and retirement funds there is no unity.

When the ppl at the top try to feed us GMO foods know to cause cancer, organ damage, and sterility
there is no unity.

When the ppl at the top use 24 different names for MSG to hide it in the food there is no unity.

The storm is building, the true motives of the fake liberals are being exposed.

The war mongering republicans are no better and are guilty as well.

The ppl at the top want it just like it is because this is the world they control,
this is the world they made.

John Perkins confessions of an Economic hitman shows this is all by their design.

So if you want to know who started the divide, look no further than the power hungry
looters at the top of the pile who are OCD and feel they can never own enough.

What is coming has happened before, your best hope is to hide well when it starts
and the cities will not be safe.

This has been my message for 4 years on this msg board, it remains the same.

Ppl like Holdren and Pianka have a plan for the rest of us, and it isn't pretty.

Good Luck to all the good ppl !!!

reply to post by beezzer


Yeah but its your thread you have to say that.

Honestly it's brought up alot of discussion but it has been all over the place. Saying that I'm trying to derail it can't be taken seriously.

Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
We cannot just say that we want 100% for America.. what about our neighbors in Canada and Mexico? If there is a 100% movement is has to include every living person on the planetrregardless of national origin. The planet has been globalized. There is no way to go back to the 1950's. Isolationism is cultural and economic suicide. Look at North Korea.

There are still a lot of patriotic attitudes in various countries that need to be "eyes opened" before the next global wave of cultural revolution can take place. China needs to open up. Iran needs to open up. And the United States needs to shut up.

National leaders have tried every imaginable way to bring peace to the world and ended up fighting wars. Wars for territory, wars for resources, wars for winning the Hearts & Minds. But these methods have all resulted in furthering the political power of those making decisions! In this way we have ended up in a 99%/1% situation.

The primary method for getting to 100% has already been demonstrated... it is the internet. The internet may turn out to be the ultimate weapon for peace because throughout modern human history information has always translated to power.

The only way to stop racism is to expand our influence beyond earth. Clearly no one shows any interest on this topic and everything otherworldly is classified. Most governments(especially the american) can't be trusted with anything because they serve the wrong interests and overspend to bankruptcy.

I feel like I am beating a dead horse sometimes but to understand today and the future, first you must understand the past. Humans have been a violent bunch, always fearing and exploiting the unknown. The europeans made the world what it is today both in regards to good and bad. They gave us technology that we build upon and started the industrial revolution. Naturally the people who started the process have a first say in how the world should be run and I don't care if they are satanists or christians.

reply to post by mastahunta


Not every conservative is a racist, but most racists are conservative. Does this sound ann coulterish?

And what about those that pushed apartheid in south africa for decades? Maybe we should ask nelson mandela to give his opinion. Fact of the matter is europeans by their nature have always been clannish and high brow pigs. I still love them though!

America is not unique in world politics because the left-right paradigm is universal.

reply to post by Honor93


Wow... way to completely ignore everything I wrote AND be an ass about it. So you're seriously going to sit there and cherry-pick a bunch of crap to deny that massive instances of slavery/institutionalized racism existed in the South. Now... I always knew that the North was guilty of racism too, perhaps not certain details until now, but the fact that you're trying to re-write history by using a few token examples of "well the South took GOOD CARE of their negroes!" is complete BS. Let me guess... you live in the South, and you're sick of feeling guilty for its past? Too bad so sad, get over it. The entire country is guilty of racism, but the South takes the cake both historically AND into the modern day. ANYBODY who understands reality and/or travels and/or is a minority, knows this.

Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

Well no... if the PEOPLE controlled the government, that'd be a Democracy.

If the PEOPLE controlled the means of production, that'd be Socialism.

Both are preferable to totalitarianism and/or Capitalism.

I really don't think that capitalism is a bad system, honestly... If you keep judging capitalism as a SYSTEM, by how the West is functioning, then you can't really claim that you are making a point against capitalism, because what we have here is NOT capitalism.

If a Few wealthy people purchase the Government, then that means that they have *BECOME* the government, and you have a plutocracy, or oligarchy.

Therefore, any recent (after 1913) claim of capitalism's failure cannot be used against capitalism, because that is not an EXAMPLE of Capitalism.


When the Federal Reserve Board took over the Issuance of Currency, you gained Plutocracy.

Certainly we live in a Plutocracy... but to claim that there is no Capitalism, or that our system is not DOMINATED by Capitalism to a great extent, is to be blind/naive. There has never existed a purist Capitalist paradise, nor will it ever exist. Capitalism is born of statism, mass markets, consumption, private (and minority) control of the means of production, wage-slavery, and profit-motive. ALL of these things lead to inherent tyranny that you cannot simply undo with some ala-kazaam market-gospel magic spells.

The Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE institution. In a completely free market, there is NO REGULATION that prevents economic entities from taking control of THE PEOPLES' government and turning it into a plutocracy. Now if you want a society WITHOUT a state, then that is Anarchism, but a "stateless" society WITH Capitalism is NOT Anarchism but just another form of oppressive hierarchy and an eventual de-facto private state.

Read before you comment:
infoshop.org...

Originally posted by Honor93

Originally posted by NoHierarchy

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

www.wnd.com...

he original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white, according to a new television program and book, which describe how the Democrats started the KKK and for decades harassed the GOP with lynchings and threats. Read more: KKK's 1st targets were Republicans

can prove it eh and want to cease and desist with tellin me what your do not the boss of me.

thought i was doing one outstanding imitations of the last potus..

edit on 12-10-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

The originators of the KKK were indeed Democrats... but these were NOT the same as modern Democrats. In fact, they were Southern CONSERVATIVE Democrats. The parties during the 19th century were quite different from the parties now.

you sure about that??
i can name 2 originators who were definitely NOT democrats or conservatives (as you perceive)

can you?
John P Kennedy - Whig (1st generation Republicans)
J Calvin Jones - Democrat (father was mayor of Pulaski / location of KKK origin)

let us know when your familiar with some of the historical rather hysterical truths

Hey!! There you go cherry-picking and re-writing history again!! God forbid you feel that terrrrible "white guilt" creep up on you...

Next thing you're gonna tell me that blacks were actually the slave owners and whites were innocent of it all. Perhaps you'll point to the first state recognized slave owner (who was black) while conveniently ignoring the VAST MAJORITY of slave owners who were of European descent BOTH before and after the state recognition of Anthony Johnson as a slave owner.

THE KKK IS KNOWN BY EVERYONE WHO STUDIES IT AS A RIGHT-WING ORGANIZATION. It hunted down blacks and Republicans (who at the time were more left-wing). The majority of its members, both past and present, are considered conservative by modern standards (and historical context). The KKK is vehemently anti-Communist and pro-big business.

Seriously... why do I even argue with people like you? You're delusional and dead wrong and you use cherry-picked facts (or even falsehoods) to fortify the insane reality that you feel comfortable believing in. You're like a religious zealot... except in terms of race and whitewashing what was done.

Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by NoHierarchy

 

honestly, mixing with the crowd is no place to get answers.
those who want to know truth and details, contact the media center folks (the ones running the camps)
and do you know what they LACK the most????
D E M A N D S

do ya know what those are??
and yet you wonder why soooo many ppl aren't willing to follow a blind lead.

and, for the record ... AdBusters (the "organizers" of OWS) ... is Soros funded.

But Soros’ support for the protesters goes far beyond his tepid public statements. In fact, the original call to “Occupy Wall Street” came from the magazine AdBusters, an “anti-consumerist” publication financed by, among other sources, the Soros-funded Tides Foundation.

source

edit on 12-10-2011 by Honor93 because: add link

I've already addressed your BS multiple times on this thread. You've been debunked already.