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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Really all that bailout money was not a blatant theft from the tax payer?

Anyone who considers himself a capitalist knows that "too big to fail" is nothing but larceny on the part of Wall St by way of the government. They are both guilty.




posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:24 PM
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i could care less what other people are doing i take care of me and mine



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by projectvxn



Wall St. isn't the problem. The fact that our government doesn't enforce contracts, individual and civil rights, and micromanages the economy IS.



Yes the government is controlled by the big money and is a problem.

It is the banks that have placed the WORLD into a very bad spot. Wall street IS a problem. You think criminal activity whether legal by a crooked government is not a problem? They contribute nothing but hard times for everyone but them. They drive the market up and make money then drive it back down and make money.

Where does that money come from? The working class. Real business men that are not crooks. You and the soul you gave up to fight for them in there greed wars.

You can still come to the side of mankind. Become a human again.
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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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i could care less what other people are doing i take care of me and mine



Even if they are stealing from YOU and YOURS?

You have to be kidding me. Then again you are unable to use proper punctuation so.... :shk:



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:30 PM
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Welcome to what might be a turning point in our country. Let's make it for the good of us, and all the world.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:30 PM
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yeah dude lets make it about spelling seriously lame lost on substance in this thread so lets make it about spelling.

like i said i could care less havent seen any poster as of yet say jack about the 2 trillion that have gone to bailout unions.

or the 3 trillion that has gone to middle class tax cuts all paid for by who?

those evil rich corporations and banks!

Doh!
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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by projectvxn
 


Really all that bailout money was not a blatant theft from the tax payer?

Anyone who considers himself a capitalist knows that "too big to fail" is nothing but larceny on the part of Wall St by way of the government. They are both guilty.


I don't disagree with that. It is larceny. And those responsible across government and the banking industry should be held to account.

But we can't just have a double standard here. Contracts must be satisfied otherwise it is also theft. Furthermore, you cannot punish people for something that was legal yesterday and made illegal today. The Feds are prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 3 of Article I, section 9. Since congress ok'd the bailout and made it legal, the banks can't be punished for it. So what can we do? We can make it illegal for the government to EVER make such a program, loan structure, or grant. But the sword cuts both ways. No more student loans from government, no more federal tax dollars to interest groups of any kind.

The only exceptions would be the funding of arts and science since it is among the few things government can legally and constitutionally spend money on. The others are common defense, and the facilitation of interstate commerce, as well as the general welfare WHERE NECESSARY AND PROPER in it's placement in the Constitution withstanding.

If you wanna fight this injustice do it with your brains folks. Don't go out and pump your fists and fight with cops and destroy private property and make idle threats of a revolution that will never be realized. At least not by the likes of un-educated handout kings and queens like the ones storming Wall St. today.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
havent seen any poster as of yet say jack about the 2 trillion that have gone to bailout unions.


Why didn't you until now?

There being more criminals doesn't let Wall St off the hook.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by projectvxn


. Restoring a constitutional government SHOULD BE what all Americans want. But alas it seems you and others just want to tear a nation apart just to have it your way.

Where I come from that's called being a bully.


We will tear it apart and replace it with a constitutional Government and not the one that the corporations, bankers and YOUR bosses (big oil) have turned this great nation into.

Yet you call yourself a Christian. Have you read his teachings? He was a socialist you know.

The gateway to heaven is narrow, you need the mind of Christ to get through. It is not saying some magic worlds like you have been led to believe by the Romans or the protestant movement.

It is the way you think and the way you act that matter. You think Christ would have been on the side of the banks? You better read the bible again.
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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
If you wanna fight this injustice do it with your brains folks.


And how is that done? Please don't say vote the crooks out. You know what they say about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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More accusations and gross misconceptions. More condescension and arrogance.

Secondly, don't mistake altruism and charity for socialism. Socialism is a form of governance and economics.

"To Caesar what is Caesars" does not sound like socialism to me. But hey, you're the bible scholar right?
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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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the criminals here are those who are pushing for more social engineering that has put us where we are

that ows and their defenders is more of the same failed policies.

you cant sit there and legislate wealth or success or education dont get that i know you wont dont really care.
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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by daskakik

Originally posted by projectvxn
If you wanna fight this injustice do it with your brains folks.


And how is that done? Please don't say vote the crooks out. You know what they say about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.


Well, you have the right to PEACEABLY assemble(no you don't have the right to rush the police and riot)
You have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. You have the right to use the court system to force the government to act accordingly. And as the Tea Party proved, you have the ability to put people in office that are more palatable to your sensibilities.

Or you could take the road of futility and defeatism and simply throw a tantrum on Wall St. with a bunch of hippies.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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Thank You! Star and flag! Always like reading your threads and replies.

I couldn't agree more!

We all need to pull together and unite, NOT find ways to divide us.

We are all Americans- notice I did not say "White Americans, or democrats or tea party-ers or whatever.

We have all gotten screwed by big gov/ big banks/big corporations, does not matter your race, religion, whatever

The only way for us to succeed is to join with each other, help each other out-

family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, employers, employees, church members, students, teachers, cops, firefighters, mayors, plumbers .................

We have to unite to reclaim our country and our constitution.

This REALLY IS the last outpost of freedom. If The United States of America falls,

God help us all



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
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More accusations and gross misconceptions. More condescension and arrogance.

Secondly, don't mistake altruism and charity for socialism. Socialism is a form of governance and economics.

"To Caesar what is Caesars" does not sound like socialism to me. But hey, you're the bible scholar right?


You began with the arrogance and condescending tone. Not me. I am fighting fire with fire.

Your quote was not from Christ it was from the Roman twist. I guess you cannot differentiate between spin and what is real. Even ancient spin from the Roman Empire does not even tickle you BS detector?

Socialism is a form of higher thinking, as opposed to being a cheese chasing rat. Wake up. The dog eat dog world was not how Christ wanted things to be.
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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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No they are all criminals.

Why do you stand up for the criminals in Wall St but condemn the unions?



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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Right and those other things work. Any examples?

Putting people in office who will end up being bought is not really changing anything.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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i dont hear any condemnation of unions and who are right there with all those ows protestors.

justice is suppose to be blind not deaf and stupid.

thats why.



posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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It's interesting that someone who became indignant at the notion of being called a socialist(even though I didn't) seems to be defending socialism quite a bit.


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posted on Oct, 7 2011 @ 08:53 PM
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The man that penned the constitution said:


Everything predicted by the enemies of banks, in the beginning, is now coming to pass. We are to be ruined now by the deluge of bank paper. It is cruel that such revolutions in private fortunes should be at the mercy of avaricious adventurers, who, instead of employing their capital, if any they have, in manufactures, commerce, and other useful pursuits, make it an instrument to burden all the interchanges of property with their swindling profits, profits which are the price of no useful industry of theirs.

Letter to Thomas Cooper, 1814. ME 14:61



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