So, Steve Jobs is dead... but what did he really give us?!?!

Professor went on a rant about him one day before he died. Forbes claimed that he has donated ZERO dollars. No giving to steve jobs. this guy was self centered

ATS.. one of the few places I can go and find people hating on our own government, leaders, mayors, and leading tech developers.. but will PRAISE Saddam and Bin Laden and Gaddafi. They scorn our government, but actually praise the Taliban. It's like a foreign country here sometimes.

Personally, I think many people just can't wait for someone like a Steve Jobs to pass away, so they can have their shot at them. I wonder how successful these people are. How much impact they have had on the world. What makes them so bitter, they must immediately take shots at the CEO of an IT company.

If you want to take shots.. at least do it against someone who didn't deserve the adoration, like say.. a Michael Jackson. Or one of these celebs who go through their lives as a prima dona, and their "contribution" is adopting a foreign child, and donating to whatever cause has personally affected their own lives (e.g. when their relative dies of leukemia, they suddenly are huge supporters of fighting that disease).

Steve Jobs at least tried to forward his industry. He worked hard on metals instead of plastics in his devices, and worked towards greener solutions. I am not a huge fan myself. I think IPods and the annoyingly tedious DLM associated with it is a pain. I'd never own one. Or an IPhone. IPad.. those are actually useful. I don't use Macs or Apples, but to call them useless is ridiculous. They are excellent for what they do. As an IT guy, I have no special hate for Apple products like some do. Many people in the company I work for use them with great results. For the niche they are made, they are excellent.

But why the hate? Why do you CARE if he gets sympathy from those that do appreciate his hard work and progress? To dig up something ridiculous about working conditions in foreign countries as being his fault, is laughable. It's pure hate for no good reason. I don't know if it's jealousy, or just technophobes or Apple-hate (I see it a lot in my industry), but honestly.. hate on someone deserving it.

So im guessing you dont have an iphone then

its a bit OTT all this out pouring of grief for a CEO of a company. he didn't invent anything it was people under him who did all the work, he got the credit. Over priced products heavily marketed to attempt to make you feel inferior if you don't have one.

Originally posted by TheFrenchPickler
reply to post by dragonseeker

 

And I suppose you have been published in national and international magazines...lol?
I'm an actor, not a writer, so no. But, I've been in quite a few films

If not, step off.
The '90's called. they want their slang back.

This thread is not a pissing match about me or you. It is about a man, and in my view a bad man, who invented a cult of people to pay him money and lied, cheated and stole to get there. Or, if you like Apple products, this thread is about your hero and your right to defend him beyond the grave.

You have NO knowledge of SJ did or did not do to get to where he was. You sound, angry, bitter, and hateful. You sound like someone who never did what they wanted to do in life, so you sneer at someone who DID achieve their dream to feel better about your own failures. Instead of lashing out at SJ, go follow your dream. make something happen. stop hating on those who have. it's not too late. YOU CAN DO IT. instead of hate, study the man. and then go do likewise.

The perfect epitaph for the headstone of Steve Jobs, Requiescat in pace:

"I brought narcissism to the masses."

first off, id like to say, thank you to steve jobs(?) for giving us the ipod classic, that thing is amazing, i used it every day when im driving and at the gym.

On the other hand, the iphone and especially the ipad, are stupid and destroying the fabric of society. kids are growing up today are massively STUPID because they clutch their lives on your technologies. people DIE sending text messages with your iphone driving. how does that make you feel, dick?

and come on, why does everyone give steve jobs all the f***** credit. that is completely unamerican. that's like your boss getting a raise and taking the credit for all the work YOU did. I bet you it was a couple of fatasses in little cubicles that made the ipad and worked long hours, and steve jobs just asked htem how it works and he named it his own. I'm no expert on this subject, i'm not an apple fanboy, but i bet yousomething i just said is true.

GOD BLESS AMERICA.

One of the great men of our time. He proved that in America you can go from an adopted pennyless dropout to create a world leader corporation. Its called hard work and the never give up attitude. Thats how Americans used to win wars and lead the rest of the world.Loved the way this guy rolled.

I hear ya about everyone putting Jobs up on a pedistal for his Apple stuff, but I could care less about any of that... never owned an apple product... never will

the one thing I appreciate Steve Jobs for...

he is the reason Pixar even got a chance. He put up the $10million, that got the start up 3D studio up and running, and because of that, we've had some great animated movies.

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Also Steve Jobs were the man that formed a generation of new technology. He changed how we listened to music with the iPod. He changed the phone with the iPhone. He reinvented the computer with iPad, and who could forget the iMac? He also changed the face of animation through Pixar.

Originally posted by Muckster
With the announcement of Steve Jobs death and the worldwide outpouring of sympathy I would like to ask... what did Steve Jobs really give the world?

Time with my daughter. The iPad and iPhone allow me to work while on the move so I can spend more time with my kid.

Maybe when the OP creates the most valuable company in the world he can be on equal footing to Jobs - it's easy to say garbage like he did nothing but 240 billion dollars and 300 million iPods doesn't lie. - All the 120 million iphones sold next year must be going to complete idiots...

I think the op has done nothing

Originally posted by circuitsports
Maybe when the OP creates the most valuable company in the world he can be on equal footing to Jobs - it's easy to say garbage like he did nothing but 240 billion dollars and 300 million iPods doesn't lie. - All the 120 million iphones sold next year must be going to complete idiots...

I think the op has done nothing

Pure lemmings mentality.

I think this post has done nothing.

@OP: Well done.
@Apple zealots: Go back to sleep.

Originally posted by Paulioetc15
reply to post by kalisdad

 

...and who could forget the iMac?

Me and everyone I know who owned an iMac. We all noticed that they had a serious overheating problem. Also, if an horizontal dark stripe appears at the bottom of the screen (~97% of the sold iMacs - yep, they laugh in their beard), it means that it's defective. This defectuosity can easily be seen during boot time or on a white background with the dock removed.

Originally posted by colbe
reply to post by Muckster

 

The positive, the good, is the faith can be shared worldwide in an instant. The downside,
makes you want to cry, young men...any age can look at porn on their I-phones.

In the New time, some call it the Millennium. Catholics refer to it as the Era of Peace. It's God's new time, the 7th Day, technology will be no more.

I saw this article today....


Steve Jobs remembered for his stance against porn on iPhone

by Christine Dhanagom

Thu Oct 06, 2011 15:31 EST

CALIFORNIA, October 6, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) - As the world mourns the loss of a successful entrepreneur and technological visionary, pro-family advocates have two other, and seemingly contradictory, reasons to remember Apple CEO Steve Jobs: his uncompromising stance against pornography, and his company’s stance in favor of gay “marriage.”

Jobs has elicited praise and criticism from both ends of the ideological spectrum for his involvement in controversial social issues.
Steve Jobs

Supporters of traditional marriage were dismayed by his company’s public opposition to Proposition 8, an amendment to the California state constitution that defined marriage as a union between one man and one woman. Apple famously donated $100,000 to the anti-Proposition 8 campaign.

Join a Facebook page to defend marriage here.

The company has also repeatedly rejected the pro-life, pro-family Manhattan Declaration iPhone app, bowing to pressure from homosexual activists.

Those same activists, however, were in for a surprise if they thought Jobs would allow Apple products to be infiltrated with the worst that the homosexual sub-culture has to offer.

Last year, his company rejected “Gay New York: 101 Can’t-Miss Places,” an app created by freelance travel writer Anthony Grant.

Grant, who writes for Forbes and The New York Times, called the decision “homophobic and discriminatory to the point of hostile.”

Apples’ rejection of the app, which was based on its inclusion of graphic sexual pictures, is part of a principled stance against pornography, for which Jobs has become famous. The former CEO set himself apart from competitors by keeping his company’s products porn-free by rejecting any and all pornographic apps.

In an email exchange with a customer posted on techcrunch.com last April, Jobs said that he believed he had a “moral responsibility” to reject pornographic content.

“Folks who want porn can buy [an] Android phone,” he wrote.

Jobs also defended his stance against Gawker.com writer Ryan Tate, who objected to an Apple commercial calling the iPad a “revolution.”

“Revolutions are about freedom,” Tate wrote.

Jobs responded that Apple products offer users “freedom from porn,” and told Tate that he “might care more about porn” when he had children.

The entrepreneur, who was adopted, leaves behind four of his own children. He was a devoted father, by the account of family and friends.

“While Newsweek and the Wall Street Journal and CNET continue to drone on about the impact of the Steve Jobs era, I won’t be pondering the MacBook Air I write on or the iPhone I talk on. I will think of the day I saw him at his son’s high school graduation,” wrote Lisen Stromberg, Jobs’ neighbor, in an article that appeared in the Palo Alto Patch.

“There Steve stood, tears streaming down his cheeks, his smile wide and proud, as his son received his diploma and walked on into his own bright future leaving behind a good man and a good father who can be sure of the rightness of this, perhaps his most important legacy of all,” Stromberg continued.

Jobs is also being remembered for his presence at another graduation at Stanford University in 2005, where he delivered a moving reflection on the reality of death during his commencement speech.

Recounting his experience with being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in 2004, Jobs commented: “Remembering that I’ll be dead soon is the most important tool I’ve ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important.”

Originally posted by rexusdiablos

Pure lemmings mentality.

I think this post has done nothing.

@OP: Well done.
@Apple zealots: Go back to sleep.

yes you who are smarter than billions of apple customers because you say so - i bet its fun to ride the everyone else is sheeple train to nowhereland.....

go ahead keep arguing against math, it's funny

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yeah I know what he's accomplished...

I just don't put much thought into the iPod or iPhone...
I had an mp3 player long before iPod was invented
I had a cell phone before IPhone was invented

Apple, like most companies, rip people off, by intentionally giving you half a product. all in the name of making money. they sell you that iPhone 4 and twelve months later outdate it by releasing iPhone 5.

I still think Pixar was his best endeavor.

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I reject, I think the world would be a little better if he was a gardener, then contribute to only gardening electronics.

Steve Jobs gave this as his second story of his Commencement Address at Stanford University on June 12, 2005.
Love and Loss
I was lucky. I found what I loved to do early in life. Woz and I started Apple in my parents garage when I was 20. We worked hard, and in 10 years Apple had grown from just the two of us in a garage into a $2 billion company with over 4000 employees. We had just released our finest creation - the Macintosh - a year earlier, and I had just turned 30. And then I got fired. How can you get fired from a company you started?
Well, as Apple grew we hired someone who I thought was very talented to run the company with me, and for the first year or so things went well. But then our visions of the future began to diverge and eventually we had a falling out. When we did, our Board of Directors sided with him. So at 30 I was out. And very publicly out. What had been the focus of my entire adult life was gone, and it was devastating.
I really didn't know what to do for a few months. I felt that I had let the previous generation of entrepreneurs down - that I had dropped the baton as it was being passed to me. I met with David Packard and Bob Noyce and tried to apologize for screwing up so badly. I was a very public failure, and I thought about running away from the valley. But something slowly began to dawn on me - I still loved what I did. The turn of events at Apple had not changed that one bit. I had been rejected, but I was still in love. And so I decided to start over.
I didn't see it then, but it turned out that getting fired from Apple was the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The heaviness of being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner again, less sure about everything. It freed me to enter one of the most creative periods of my life.
During the next five years, I started a company named NeXT, another company named Pixar, and fell in love with an amazing woman who would become my wife. Pixar went on to create the worlds first computer animated feature film, Toy Story, and is now the most successful animation studio in the world. In a remarkable turn of events, Apple bought NeXT.
I returned to Apple, and the technology we developed at NeXT is at the heart of Apple's current renaissance. And Laurene and I have a wonderful family together.
I'm pretty sure none of this would have happened if I hadn't been fired from Apple.It was awful tasting medicine, but I guess the patient needed it. Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith. I'm convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I did. You've got to find what you love. And that is as true for your work as it is for your lovers.
Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking.
Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking until you find it. Don't settle.
Steve Jobs
1955-2011

Originally posted by kalisdad
reply to post by Paulioetc15

 

yeah I know what he's accomplished...

I just don't put much thought into the iPod or iPhone...
I had an mp3 player long before iPod was invented
I had a cell phone before IPhone was invented

Apple, like most companies, rip people off, by intentionally giving you half a product. all in the name of making money. they sell you that iPhone 4 and twelve months later outdate it by releasing iPhone 5.

I still think Pixar was his best endeavor.

what a load of garbage

Before the Iphone there was the Trio and if you think that apple ripped people off with the iPhone have your head examined. I don't recall my trio which was more money new having a large touch screen or a decent camera or a decent mp3 player or gps or wifi access or a g sensor or have any decent games beyond tetris or have you tube access, voip capability and the list is on and on and on.

Of course they come up with a new phone every year, they go to this position through innovation and the market is 10x bigger than what it was when the first iPhone came out. Everyone is already talking about the droid prime being a challenger and no one has even seen it yet.

It's called technology and as you are reading this there is science fiction being tested that in 2 years will be the standard.