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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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US signs ACTA


arstechnica.com

The United States, Australia, Canada, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, and South Korea signed the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement on Saturday, an accord targeting intellectual property piracy.

The European Union, Mexico and Switzerland—the only other governments participating in the accord’s creation—did not sign the deal at a ceremony in Japan but "confirmed their continuing strong support for and preparations to sign the agreement as soon as practical," the parties said in a joint statement.

The United States applauded the deal.
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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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The accord, which the United States says does not require Congressional approval, also calls on participating nations to maintain extensive seizure and forfeiture laws when it comes to counterfeited goods that are trademarked or copyrighted. Most important, countries must carry out a legal system where victims of intellectual property theft may be awarded an undefined amount of monetary damages.

In the United States, for example, the Copyright Act allows for damages of up to $150,000 per infringement. A Boston jury has dinged a college student $675,000 for pilfering 30 tracks on Kazaa, while a Minnesota jury has awarded the Recording Industry Association of America $1.5 million for the purloining of 24 songs online.


One has to ask; if this does not require congressional approval.... what else doesn't?

International treaty establishing law... without the consent of the people.... did I miss something?


Until European Union authorities began leaking the document’s text, the Obama administration was claiming the accord was a "national security" secret.


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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 11:50 PM
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Another act of goddamn treason.

If this forum wasn't littered with spooks and shills, I'd really say what I'd like to see happen to the leadership of this country.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 11:54 PM
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posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 11:56 PM
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Its against our constitution so they can flush that one down the toilet. To me its knowingly committing a criminal act to sign that and put your signature on it. Their whole world and system of laws and are for the most part crimes too and I'm waiting for true justice and the Bullies/Bad guys to be arrested.



posted on Oct, 4 2011 @ 11:58 PM
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gotta protect big pharma



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
I'm waiting for true justice and the Bullies/Bad guys to be arrested.


Maybe that is why they do stuff like this. They know they will get away with it because everyone is waiting for some one else to do something and no one ever really does anything to keep the government in check...


That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


It's your right...Stop waiting.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 12:03 AM
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How dare you question the eternal right to robbery held by the good god-fearing wealthy lords and ladies of corporate america, Maxmars? don't you realize how many of your fellow ATS'ers will have you in pillories over this breach of etiquette?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 12:46 AM
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There are a lot of bad laws.

It's your choice to follow them or not.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 12:51 AM
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just one more law of the NWO. Get use to it, there is no stopping what you have no voice in, and that is their, the NWO, step to power and control over you, me, and us.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:15 AM
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How does this mesh with the supreme court refusing an appeal that would have made downloading music an infringement of federal copyright law?

www.abovetopsecret.com... - Supreme Court legalizes downloading music



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 01:16 AM
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well this is good news maybe theyll finally sort all the problems



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:32 AM
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People People this is not good news it is yet another sign of more and more controls being implemented to protect BIG business and and keep prices overinflated so that the slaves will be kept just as they are....SLAVES.

why do people think this protects the individual....why would it be protective to you or me to have things over priced....yet again more lies.....how much will it take to get people to wake up to this.....before when SLAVES did something wrong they took their lashes.....now they whip us into line with the threat of prosecution.....

I am going to stake my claim on air soon....and no one will be able to copyright it...IT IS MINE....MUWAHHHHS HAH HA HA
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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:45 AM
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Originally posted by admiralbiggles
well this is good news maybe theyll finally sort all the problems


Irony is not your strong suit.

But it's always good to see nations' desperation manifest. Every new law, treaty or runaround only betrays a sense of their inability to really maintain control.

Or...I'm wholly incorrect but it's one of those musings that may ultimately prove prophetic. Let history decide.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 10:00 AM
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Gotta control the flow of information, free information is dangerous to tptb, need to lock the internet down to many people sharing their ideas and complaints about the gov.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
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How dare you question the eternal right to robbery held by the good god-fearing wealthy lords and ladies of corporate america, Maxmars? don't you realize how many of your fellow ATS'ers will have you in pillories over this breach of etiquette?


I humbly submit, I was clearly out of order.... Perhaps it is the effect of the outdated notion that profit-taking was to be allowed only insofar as it did not infringe on the ability of other citizen's opportunities to pursue happiness.... or it may be that I wrongly assumed that third-party profiteering would not infringe on both the producer and the consumer of artistic work for profit? Maybe it was the notion that a corporate entity's obsolete business model was their own responsibility to cope with, rather than efforts of public servants to coddle and maintain.

In all this I am guilty. Clearly, my flaw is in the presumption of considering the word "Free" in "Free Market" to mean that it is not controlled and protected by a corporate-aligned regulatory body of 'publicly' paid 'public' servants whose sworn duty is to the community that entrusted them with the authority to regulate.

The model they insist on protecting above and beyond reason, and to the detriment of the newest medium, is clearly out of my purview; as a non-entitled "little" citizen, I failed to subjugate myself to the construct of the aristocratic, or economic-landed gentry, In these ways I have failed to be a proper serf to the currency scheme set up for the nations by the supranational authorities that have evidently been appointed by the gods of commercial exploitation.

We have become 'products.' Mechanisms of consumption, we will be herded, and branded, and conditioned to acquiesce.... long live the new flesh!

I surrender myself for reprogramming, after which I will gleefully embrace the idea that it is not my - or anyone's - place to think. Ours is to accept governance, consume per direction, produce at a loss, and die having paid all due wealth to those who allow me to participate in the glory of corporate supranational governance....

I am .... unworthy to live in this blossoming corporatocracy manned by economic royalty..


((by the way... that was all sarcasm - just in case there's any confusion about the jest))
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posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Maxmars


Until European Union authorities began leaking the document’s text, the Obama administration was claiming the accord was a "national security" secret.


arstechnica.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


To a certain degree I am against "theft of intelletual property" but considering the tentacles of international trade and how over-priced merchandise can be, I say the hell with ACTA! Congress was bypassed and the president used the tried and tested tool of treason called...YOU GUESSED IT RIGHT FOLKS...national security.

Someone needs to control the cia and nsa before they # us to death. Seriously!!!!



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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Well... they did say "intellectual" property theft, so that ruled themselves out entirely, it was a selfless act.

Fortunately, that also rules out Metallica and Hollywood.



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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Hey, what's that sound? Is that the sound of the Constitution suffering yet another tear at the hands of the obama regime? Or is it the sound of the regime flushing our freedoms down the toilet?



posted on Oct, 5 2011 @ 04:28 PM
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It's strange to see how people will attack another person's rights in the name of their own rights, especially when one of the person's rights were established by their labor, and the others' by their lack.

It is certainly obvious that this is done with a national/international socialist mentality, that big business will benefit the most (they have the ability to defend their rights more than any individual producer), and I do support our constitution so as to reject the lawfulness of this treaty, however, I do not disagree with the notion that people who produce value should be protected.

The inherent rights that exist that should be protected lie with those who produced a value. Those who imply that they have a basic right to claim a benefit from that value without contribution are both thieves and liars (they have taken what they did not contribute to, and they do not understand the basis for "rights").



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