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Originally posted by BlueSkies
As said I agree with you much truth can be found in the words of the bible and also in other ancient texts. I just do not resonate with the fears associated with the religions of the world.
My findings are Spirituality (god from within) is more real truth - - - then any "worded dogma". Those who argue who is a True Christian by the interpretation of biblical text (or other text beliefs) - - - are ridiculous. No gracious way of saying that - - nor do I choose to.
Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by Annee
My findings are Spirituality (god from within) is more real truth - - - then any "worded dogma". Those who argue who is a True Christian by the interpretation of biblical text (or other text beliefs) - - - are ridiculous. No gracious way of saying that - - nor do I choose to.
I am confused.. you seem to imply in many posts that you are atheist..yet now you state you believe in a "god from within"..
maybe I am confused in what you believe.. but stating that "God is from within", could basically be as much of "imagination" as the bible and jesus, is considered to be for you.
Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
Do me a favor and GO TO HELL for me and come back and let me know how it was? Okay?
Mormons are Christians. One of the best organizations I've ever been involved with - - - in my 60 year search for god. Ending result being Atheist. If I ever find a non-religious group organized like the Mormons - - - sign me up immediately.
Uh huh - - - I was a believer for 50+ years. I admitted to Atheist only the last 5. When you are Atheist for 50+ years - - then admit you are a believer the last 5 - - - we might then have something interesting to talk about. Christians have a serious persecution complex. I know. I was one for many years.
Those "silly titles" are attached to - - political power and money. Taking power away from religion (specifically Christian) in this country is NOT a problem -- it is a NECESSITY. And that is the main reason for Atheists organizing.
I do not agree with that at all. In my experience - - Atheists on "general" blogs/forums - - mostly speak up in response to God believers - - who speak first. Christians have a serious persecution complex - - and are intolerant of any rejection/dismissal of their belief.
I grew up Christian - - but my mom also believed in "many paths". That each person must travel many paths to find their own. My findings are Spirituality (god from within) is more real truth - - - then any "worded dogma". Those who argue who is a True Christian by the interpretation of biblical text (or other text beliefs) - - - are ridiculous. No gracious way of saying that - - nor do I choose to. I did find - - - once you step completely out of the "god circle" - - - you sever yourself from the energy euphoria of shared thought/experience. It truly is like a drug. I am now drug free.
Originally posted by gabby2011
Just trying to find out if you are truly an atheist, or just someone who had changed your views on spirituality, and now view God as something different than what you were taught when you were younger.
I am Atheist. I do not believe in a deity. I do believe everything is energy and a creation of energy. I have discussed it on other threads. It is not the subject of this thread.
Originally posted by gabby2011
there is no proof.. for your beliefs... and they are simply that...your beliefs..which you are entitled to having..as much as a christian is entitled to theirs.
There is ZERO real proof for any god belief. Where exactly have I stated Christians aren't entitled to their belief? My opinion statements DO NOT in any way denote another's opinion statement.
Who the hell cares about "god's words". If someone is hungry - - - show up at their door with a bag full of food - - - and keep your mouth shut.
I do believe there is truth in the bible - - - as most stories have truth in them. I do not believe the "mythical bible Jesus" story at all. I mean zero.
That really does sound like an imaginary friend. I wonder what one would imagine in a friend - - if they had first not been told the truly non-believable story of Jesus.
Those "silly titles" are attached to - - political power and money. Taking power away from religion (specifically Christian) in this country is NOT a problem -- it is a NECESSITY. And that is the main reason for Atheists organizing.
Originally posted by gabby2011
Seems to me you have been ridiculing Christians and their beliefs this whole thread.... yet you say in the post i have replied to they have a right to their beliefs..
Please forgive me for my confusion, but you don't come across as someone who feels christians are entitled to their beliefs...
Though many atheists just might ridicule religious beliefs they also understand the importance of having a right to one's beliefs. In my case, I respect everyone's right to have whatever belief they wish, but I do not have to respect the belief itself.
Taking power away from religion (specifically Christian) in this country is NOT a problem -- it is a NECESSITY. And that is the main reason for Atheists organizing.
There is ZERO real proof for any god belief. Where exactly have I stated Christians aren't entitled to their belief? My opinion statements DO NOT in any way denote another's opinion statement.
Who the hell cares about "god's words". If someone is hungry - - - show up at their door with a bag full of food - - - and keep your mouth shut.
I do believe there is truth in the bible - - - as most stories have truth in them. I do not believe the "mythical bible Jesus" story at all. I mean zero.
That really does sound like an imaginary friend. I wonder what one would imagine in a friend - - if they had first not been told the truly non-believable story of Jesus.
Seems to me you have been ridiculing Christians and their beliefs this whole thread.... yet you say in the post i have replied to they have a right to their beliefs.
Please forgive me for my confusion, but you don't come across as someone who feels christians are entitled to their beliefs...
as a matter of fact in one of your posts..you said they needed to be taken out of positions of power, by atheists.
Those "silly titles" are attached to - - political power and money. Taking power away from religion (specifically Christian) in this country is NOT a problem -- it is a NECESSITY. And that is the main reason for Atheists organizing.
Does^ that^ sound like someone who believes that others have a right to their beliefs?
Originally posted by gabby2011
I can't see where state and religion will ever be totally separated, as many laws are based on religiously inspired moral beliefs.
If every level government would be run by atheists..would we not end up with laws that are still based on the concepts of an atheists morality?
What is Atheist morality? Sounds like you are trying to insult me. Ethics come from integrity and responsibility. God is not required.
Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by Annee
What is Atheist morality? Sounds like you are trying to insult me. Ethics come from integrity and responsibility. God is not required.
Insult you..?? I suggest you read that post again, and tell me how I am insulting you? Perhaps you have a hint of that persecution complex , that you feel Christians have?
Originally posted by gabby2011
let me ask you this ..do you agree with this statement below ?
Taking power away from religion (specifically Christian) in this country is NOT a problem -- it is a NECESSITY. And that is the main reason for Atheists organizing.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by zerimar65
I didn't say you said anything derogatory. If God doesn't exist to you, why do you keep arguing? He must exist because you feel it necessary to keep saying He doesn't. If God doesn't exist he wouldn't be so much on your mind. The nothingness of God is making you have to keep making comments about Him.
Derogatory being used as a simplified single word to capsulize your rant. Or would you prefer I drag that rant out in a post and address every single accusation you made toward me.
Where am I arguing?
Lack of belief does not require belief.
I like social discussions. This is a discussion board.
God is definitely not on my mind.
I post in a statement style - - stating what I think.
I responded to a post - - stating my thoughts on the subject - - not the poster. (First Post before rant)
Where in that FIRST post did I make any direct comments to you? Or directly disagree with your thoughts - - as in an "I'm right - you are wrong" argument?
edit on 4-10-2011 by Annee because: (no reason given)