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reply posted on 5-10-2011 @ 03:40 PM by gabby2011
reply to post by Annee




The fact you don't even know what you said that is insulting - - - says a lot. I really don't care. I was just trying to make a point. And you just made it.


well..maybe you could try being less insulting , and explain to me exactly how you found what I said insulting..?

here are the words you took as insulting..



I agree that writings are not proof of anything Annee, and I don't have a problem with how you came to your conclusions.. and beliefs..and quite frankly understand where you are coming from..for the most part. I can't see where state and religion will ever be totally separated, as many laws are based on religiously inspired moral beliefs. If every level government would be run by atheists..would we not end up with laws that are still based on the concepts of an atheists morality?


I honestly don't see how my post above could be considered insulting, as compared to some of what you have posted ?

Never mind the explanation...

I was just trying to make my point as well.. and I think I made it..


reply posted on 5-10-2011 @ 03:49 PM by gabby2011
reply to post by Annee


Why are you misquoting me now?

That quote appears to have been said by me, and it was not..it was posted by traditional drummer.

Any valid reason for the deception? If it was a mistake..please be moral and integral, take responsibility and change it .

Thank you



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reply posted on 5-10-2011 @ 04:01 PM by gabby2011
reply to post by Annee




Yep. But it fit the current discussion.


So..its ok to misquote me cause it fit the discussion??

Good grief.. hope that's not an example of your atheistic morality.


reply posted on 5-10-2011 @ 04:50 PM by gabby2011
reply to post by Annee




Really? This is how you respond to the question: "What is Atheist morality?"


I was referring to the ethics of responsibility and integrity that you implied with this statement.



Ethics come from integrity and responsibility. God is not required.


When I referred to you reading text out of connotation , I was referring to you seeing my questions as insults..

when in fact they were just questions....and I think you knew that...I was answering to accusations of being insulting.

now you are twisting things around.. when you use this statement..to say that's how I answer the question below.


Really? This is how you respond to the question: "What is Atheist morality?"


So..lets just say its best we don't even get into it any further as I fear you really don't understand the points I am trying to make.

back on topic.. Christians who believe that others are going to hell unless they believe in Jesus, are no threat to those who firmly believe there is no Jesus.. on a site such as this.

There beliefs can have no power unless you let them have power.











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reply posted on 5-10-2011 @ 04:53 PM by Annee
Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by Annee




Yep. But it fit the current discussion.


So..its ok to misquote me cause it fit the discussion??

Good grief.. hope that's not an example of your atheistic morality.


Cute

Is this really how you want to portray yourself?


reply posted on 5-10-2011 @ 05:10 PM by gabby2011
reply to post by Annee




Is this really how you want to portray yourself?


I would be more concerned as to how you are portraying yourself.


reply posted on 5-10-2011 @ 05:11 PM by gabby2011
reply to post by sacgamer25




Most atheists say something similar to this. My question then is how did these qualities get there?


That was my point as well.. where is their basis and foundation on what is ethical?

What may seem good and just to one atheist may not apply to another atheist.. therefore the confusion and controversy continues.

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reply posted on 5-10-2011 @ 05:12 PM by Annee
Originally posted by sacgamer25

What is Atheist morality? Sounds like you are trying to insult me.


Ethics come from integrity and responsibility. God is not required.


Most atheists say something similar to this. My question then is how did these qualities get there? You truly think TOE explains this or do you have another theory or belief? I promise I ask this not as an insult but to search for understanding. I simply do not understand how one does not believe in some power greater than themselves that has influenced the existence of our morals and emotions.


What does TOE have to do with social awareness?

And I don't understand why I need an excuse to be ethical - - from an imaginary person - - outside myself.

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Ethics, also known as moral philosophy, is a branch of philosophy that addresses questions about morality — that is, concepts such as good and evil, right and wrong, virtue and vice, justice and crime, etc.

Major branches of ethics include:

- Meta-ethics, about the theoretical meaning and reference of moral propositions and how their truth values (if any) may be determined;
- Normative ethics, about the practical means of determining a moral course of action;
- Applied ethics, about how moral outcomes can be achieved in specific situations;
- Moral psychology, about how moral capacity or moral agency develops and what its nature is;
- Descriptive ethics, about what moral values people actually abide by.

en.wikipedia.org...
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reply posted on 5-10-2011 @ 05:33 PM by sacgamer25
reply to post by Annee


Yes but why do we have these morals or ethics. Many of the things we believe to be moral do not increase our ability to survive, they simply make survival more enjoyable.


reply posted on 5-10-2011 @ 05:48 PM by Annee
Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by Annee


Yes but why do we have these morals or ethics. Many of the things we believe to be moral do not increase our ability to survive, they simply make survival more enjoyable.


Because humans are thinkers and figured it out.

When humans came together living in groups - - rules had to be made to keep harmony.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out the difference between Positive and Negative.

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