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Originally posted by john_bmth
reply to post by RogerT
How many times must this be mentioned?
There is absolutely no way around this.
Originally posted by EmilNomeli understood very well what you try to say and i agree with it...
nevertheless, you make no sense by putting a periods between each of your words!
the good thing is that this nonsense of yours gave me the idea to show you "some of your own medicine"
the way you did it to my posts... you were putting words in my mouth and misquoting me!
Originally posted by john_bmthiii
Sigh, yet another post of mine that contains zero substance. Here we go...
MANILA, Philippines?Daniel Dingel, 82-year-old inventor of a ?water-powered car,? has been convicted of ?estafa? [swindling] and sentenced to a maximum of 20 years imprisonment by the Parañaque City Regional Trial Court. The court also ordered him to pay $380,000 in actual damages. Dingel, who has never revealed the secret to his invention, which he began in 1969, questioned the verdict but said he did not mind going to jail at his age. As of late Friday, he remained at large. ??Hindi ko naman kailangan ng pera? [I don?t need the money],? he said. ?I had bigger offers but I never took them. I never asked the government for a single centavo ... I just want to help.? Dingel was found guilty of taking $410,000 from Dr. John Ding Young of Formosa Plastics Group, a Taiwanese company, which gave it to him as research and development funds. The decision, written by Judge Rolando How of the court?s Branch 257 and released on Dec. 9, said Dingel defrauded Young when the inventor failed to fulfill his obligation of developing his ?hydrogen reactor? and creating experimental cars in 2000. Veteran lawyer Frank Chavez, who was approached by Dingel on Friday, said he would immediately appeal the court decision before it became final on Christmas Eve.
Originally posted by Screwed
So a friend and I were wondering why it wouldn't be possible to build a water powered car and came across this really easy to understand idea of how it could be done.
It seems clear to me/us that it would be pretty easy unless there is something we are overlooking which is why I come to you.
The age old problem is the fact that it takes an inordinate amount of electricity to split the water molecule into O2 and Hydrogen. Sure you could get a car to run on hydrogen but where are you going to get the hydrogen?
How are you going to generate enough electricity to keep the electrolysis going?
Can someone please tell me why you couldn't generate the electrolysis process using the already existing alternator?
It would work like this.
A separate deep cell battery is designated to the electrolysis system.
You get in the car, flip a switch, and the bubbles begin to rise and gas begins to accumulate in the water cannister in the trunk.
Pressure begins to build, feeding the Hydrogen/O2 mixture to the fuel injection manifold on the engine,
then it's time to start the car.
Once started, the alternator begins generating the electricity needed to keep the system going.
The only problem I see is the ability to keep the pressure at a manageable rate.
Too much pressure and somethings gonna blow.
Too little and the engine dies.
But the idea is still solid.
Here is the idea put another way.
How It Works
Exceedingly simple. Water is pumped as needed to replenish and maintain the liquid level in the chamber. The electrodes are vibrated with a 0.5-5A electrical pulse which breaks 2(H2O) => 2H2 + O2. When the pressure reaches say 30-60 psi, you turn the key and go. You step on the pedal, you send more energy to the electrodes, and thus more vapor to the cylinders; i.e. fuel vapor on demand.
You set the idle max-flow rate to get the most efficient use of power, and you're off to the races.
In the big picture, your free energy is coming from the tap water in an open system, as the latent energy in the water is enough to power the engine and hence drive the alternator and whatever belt-driven accessories. And the alternator is efficient enough to run the various electrical loads (10 - 20 amps), including the additional low current to run this vapor reaction. No extra batteries are required.
Here is a facinating video about this very idea being field tested.
So can someone smarter than myself please tell me why this wouldn't work?
Honestly?edit on 30-9-2011 by Screwed because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by nh_ee
reply to post by Screwed
The Fillipino inventor Daniel Dingle, had invented this back in 1968. And has been driving his water powered car for over 30 years now.
Originally posted by john_bmth
reply to post by romanmel
Another convicted fraudster, this time to the tune of $25,000. Notice the patter emerging here?