Non American Aircraft in our Arsenal?, page 1
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reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 11:03 AM by nake13
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The British built Bae Hawk trainer is in the US inventory,and of course the Harrier whic h is being phased out now,there's the British built Short Skyvan which was in US service as a short range air lifter.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 11:27 AM by StratosFear
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I know ive seen several Russian Mig-29 Fulcrums that are owned by civilians and some they keep in Nevada as "aggressors" for training purposes. Im sure several older MIGs and Sukhois are around in a hangar somewhere tucked away in a corner of an AFB, most being from defecting pilots, some purchased. I used to know i guy who bought a Mi-24 "Hind" and had it retrofitted for luxury transportation, and there are several French type helicopters used in the police sectors across the US.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 12:30 PM by Wrabbit2000
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I saw what I believe were MiG 29s taking off from Holloman Air Force Base on the edge of the White Sands range early last year. There were at least 3 Mig 29s in the parade that took off, and none of the others were ones I recognized from American inventory. I was directly beneath the end of the runway for one of them (The highway runs along the outer fence of the base and at least one runway points right at the fence) and got an outstanding look.

I'd just assumed at the time that they were flying off to play Red Team for an exercise someone had going over N.M. or elsewhere. That still sounds like a decent assumption, but I'm sure there is a fascinating story behind each aircraft I saw and how it wound up taking off from an American air base.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 11:49 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
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Zweibrücken AB was the hub for the C-23As in USAFE when I was stationed there in the mid-80's.



reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 08:24 PM by arbiture
From what I understand the U.S acquired manny of it's Mig aircraft more or less legally. We bought them. Wave enough money or a fabulous looking gal (or guy in some cases) and it's a deal. Don't laugh. It's called commerce. Thats how the Russians got their hands on our F-14's, not just complete planes, but also operations manuals, spare parts, the whole ball of wax. When President Carter was stupid enough to give our finest fleet-interceptor to Iran (I don't blame him for not having a crystal ball, just being dangerously naive about the world, vi-sie-vi-iran at the time.) Were still living with that debacle. As is everyone else.

If the Russians, the Chinese, British or anyone else comes up with a new capability, when such new abilities are used by politicians and those who don't understand, or give a damn, about the hundreds of billions of dollars it cost's to do all this, and sell it to a tin horn dictator, (or simple crook) who's only out for a buck. then I assure you, us Americans can just shovel so much money at you, and if you don't take the money? Then it's your wife you should really worry about, who will kill you, if our offer you chose to refuse. Oh yes, the U.S. got many aircraft from other nations over the years. No doubt others got our stuff perhaps the same way. Now you know why I'm not a "politician".

Sometimes it's a complete misread of the other side (I hope that's all it was) Take British Prime Minister Attlee in the post WW2 1940's. He gave the most advanced jet engine of the time to the Russians, the Nene. It was copied, and put in the MiG-15 and killed Americans, both in B-29's and a number in F-86's. It was the finest early jet engine of the age. It was the very reason Kelly Johnson of Lockheed Skunkworks designed the F-104 Star Fighter. But please excuse, I am in the middle of preparing my lecture for the University tomorrow on the early advantages of British airplane power-plants circa 1938-1950/1951 (consider the Spitfire Merlin engine as well) and the advantage's of some 1940's/1950's American aerodynamic designs. (Remember the P-51? No? Do some home work... ) If I ever finnish writing my lecture out, I'll ramble further. Perhaps even about commerce....
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