Ron Paul's glorious entrance to the California GOP convention, page 4


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reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 02:55 PM by rseymore21
reply to post by jessejamesxx


Ok well how long do u think they've been planning NWO? They have a set plan to decieve us. His one little vote against the gov to make us trust him thru the years didnt do much for us did it? No and he and they knew ppl would look at his history of voting to make us believe he isnt one of them. Anybody who even has a chance to become president has something to do with "them".. You think theyre going to let some guy ruin the plan theyve been plannin for a long time?


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 03:17 PM by eLPresidente
Originally posted by NervousNJerky
Right about now TPTB are digging, digging hard and deep for something to "use" against RP. In the abscence of said, theres always "chad". If buy chance subterfuge is not possible? TPTB, WILL render him null. For the game to go on, this has to be. I really hate when I mull things over. All of this of course is speculation on my part. It's a GD shame it makes as much scence as it does.
edit on 18-9-2011 by NervousNJerky because: I will be switching from Independent to republican for thge primaries, voting for Ron Paul.
edit on 18-9-2011 by NervousNJerky because: I will be switching from Independent to republican for the primaries, voting for Ron Paul.


Funny you posted that feeling, here is something I just read on ronpaulforums.com by a volunteer close to the campaign.


Rumor is that researchers in the MSM are combing through the campaign's FEC reports and clutching at straws for a story to invent. One line they might be looking at is "reimbursements made to Jesse Benton the Chair of the campaign". In case there is a news story about this it’s important for everyone to know what was going on prior to the MSM spinning nothing into an attack...

Jesse had expensed quite a hefty amount in the neighborhood of around $200k on his personal AmEx card, mostly for a few months of charter flights for Dr. Paul. Since this was early on, and there was no campaign or Liberty PAC credit card, he did this on his personal line of credit. Running such high Amex bills can actually make your credit score go down, believe it or not. The campaign and Liberty PAC didn’t have a line of credit by way of their own AmEx accounts at that point. Needless to say that since the campaign is in full swing reimbursements of this size are not done any more as the financial infrastructure to handle these types of expenses is now in place.

More importantly though the fact that we are hearing that the MSM may be preparing to attack the campaign over this is actually a good sign. They are going after staffers of Ron because they have nothing else substantial to attack him with. Remember Rachel Maddow was Rand’s best friend until the instant they realized that he could take power which meant that he was a threat. Because it appears they are doing research on Ron’s staffers this tells us that they perceive Ron as a viable threat to the establishment and are grasping at anything they can to neutralize our momentum.

In other words we are winning.



reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 03:18 PM by PapagiorgioCZ
Originally posted by rseymore21
reply to
post by jessejamesxx


Ok well how long do u think they've been planning NWO? They have a set plan to decieve us. His one little vote against the gov to make us trust him thru the years didnt do much for us did it? No and he and they knew ppl would look at his history of voting to make us believe he isnt one of them. Anybody who even has a chance to become president has something to do with "them".. You think theyre going to let some guy ruin the plan theyve been plannin for a long time?


„Bobby K.“ wasn't one of them, was he? Looks like at least it was possible. Face like boss and people will soon believe you are mighty and... you will reach more power.



reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 03:21 PM by eLPresidente
reply to post by rseymore21



I honestly don't think you'll be convincing anybody here so while you sit at home with no alternative solution but to scare others into thinking he is some NWO puppet bent on destruction of the whole known world, I'm going to be out campaigning, passing out flyers, holding signs and flipping votes for the California primary.

I hope RP supporters in other states will be doing the same thing because that is what it takes for a grassroots organization to win an election, this is our way of bypassing the media.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 04:33 PM by NervousNJerky
reply to post by eLPresidente



Thanks for the nod. It just goes without saying does'nt it? There will be more attacks to be sure.I'm hopeing Ron Paul is of strong enough moral fiber to starve there efforts. He needs to win the Republican primary to have a chance. Any attempt at a third party run will be fruitless. If he pulls it off, all gloves will be off, the MSM will ALL be at him. As both sides of the isle will be absolutly threatened to there core.
This is troublleing in itself. How can the game go on if he is Successful in his bid for the Presidency? The last peoplle that were of the same mind, in the same position were shot. Hmm, I think I'm gonna start buying my Sherriff a cup of Joe when I see him. At any rate it's a darn site better that last election already. I'm even gnna switch from Independent to Republican b4 the primary. (back again soon after)
edit on 18-9-2011 by NervousNJerky because: multiple spelling and gramer errors



reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 04:37 PM by Wolfpack 51
Nice to see enthusiasm.

You know there was a time in this country when people said we could not do something, we did it anyway if it was right.

Seems that if people would consider the alternative answer presented by most the candidates as being the same thing with a different flavor, they would ask themselves:

If what has been done for decades seems to be leading to a worse position for our nation, does it make sense to keep going down the same path with the same train of thought?

The answer is obviously no. It is simply stupid to continue the same thing.

People tried a change in 2008, they picked a Democrat with a new face and no substance.

Here a choice is being presented to at least attempt to correct the path that is being presented for us to follow.

There is always a possibility that things could get worse. This is true regardless of who gets elected.

But by voting in Ron Paul, a clear message will be sent, that the people a demanding a correction in the way our country is ran and our policies implemented.

It seems it is time for Americans to once again take a chance, step into an area that has not been entered for well over a century. Go back to a smaller federal govt that follows the constitution and lets the states control their territories as things were designed.

We can change the path in the following years through congressional elections, and again in 2016 if need be.

But it is a certainty if people do not step up and step out of the box we have been placed in by indoctrination, we are going to continue down the same road. There are more than two parties, there are more than two ideas, and we deserve a future worthy of what those who fought for us died for. Freedom and protection of life, liberty and property unencumbered by the federal govt.

We all know to elect a mainstream candidate from either side will be nothing but a repeat of the past. I hope the majority of people that can vote take the opportunity to use it in a decisive manner.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 05:10 PM by eLPresidente
reply to post by schuyler



The support between Obama and Ron Paul is genuinely different.

Obama didn't even have a shot until Oprah literally threw him in the ring. Ron Paul's supporters are dedicated, actually informed in politics and policies and will be with him through thick and thin, you think they'll disappear after he wins 2012 like Obama fans did? To just say Ron Paul is the Obama of 2012 is just misinformation and I think you know it.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 07:22 PM by schuyler
Originally posted by eLPresidente
reply to
post by schuyler



The support between Obama and Ron Paul is genuinely different.

Obama didn't even have a shot until Oprah literally threw him in the ring. Ron Paul's supporters are dedicated, actually informed in politics and policies and will be with him through thick and thin, you think they'll disappear after he wins 2012 like Obama fans did? To just say Ron Paul is the Obama of 2012 is just misinformation and I think you know it.


Are you missing my point intentionally? I never said they were "the same." I said that elements of his support surely do sound the same when Paul is depicted at his "glorious entrance" to accolades from the masses cheering for him, THE SAME WAY Obama was cheered in Denver (and other places.) Obama's supporters are certainly not stupid and as supportive of Obama as the Paulistas are of him. They think it's fine and dandy to turn the USA into a socialist state, redistribute the wealth so more falls their way, and unionize everyone.

It's a VASTLY different message, but It SOUNDS exactly the same to me, the same enthusiastic and vacuous cheering on of their hero: Hope & Change. If Obama hadn't already trademarked that phrase, it would be perfect for Paul. All we have to do is bring home the troops, change to the gold standard, and ignore the rest of the world and everything will be PEACHY!

The biggest problem with Paul supporters is that too many of them are full of themselves and obnoxious. They mistake a completely spammed and artificial poll as the real thing. Some of them actually believe that if they go spam a poll, that reflects Paul's REAL popularity. It's completely insane how out of touch with reality they are. And Paul does no better when he suggests insane stuff like the border fence being used to keep us IN! I can just imagine it. Americans rushing to Mexico for a better and safer life. Time for Letterman and Leno to get some laughs on that one.

The biggest thing the Paul campaign needs right now, in all seriousness, is adult supervision. Judging from his campaign so far, which looks just like his campaign last time, he simply does not have it.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 08:02 PM by eLPresidente
reply to post by schuyler



You keep hating like that, you'll just drown in your own negativity.



actual context of Ron Paul on immigration (fence).



Have a good day, you need one.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 08:51 PM by NightGypsy
reply to post by OpusMarkII





the thing that really concerns me is Ron Paul supporters are starting to act like the Obama-bots of 08 !! Ron Paul is a step in the right direction but it's gonna take decades for America to heal it self


These types of comments sound more ridiculous every time I hear them. Paul has stated himself time and time again that major changes will have to be done over a period of time. His supporters are well aware of this and I have yet to see any of them claim things will change overnight or anytime shortly thereafter.

Obama's supporters were nothing like Paul's. Obama had no previous grass roots support because he had just shown up in the political arena as a senator! The supporters he had just jumped blindly onto his bandwagon because they were either diehard Democrats who would have supported a cat for president as long as it was a Democrat, or they were voters who would support ANYONE who campaigned on promises of "hope" and "change."

Paul's supporters know their candidate and, as we have seen repeatedly in these threads, they are knowledgeable about his views and his record.

Apples and oranges.....apples and oranges......




reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 09:09 PM by NightGypsy
reply to post by schuyler





The biggest problem with Paul supporters is that too many of them are full of themselves and obnoxious. They mistake a completely spammed and artificial poll as the real thing. Some of them actually believe that if they go spam a poll, that reflects Paul's REAL popularity. It's completely insane how out of touch with reality they are. And Paul does no better when he suggests insane stuff like the border fence being used to keep us IN! I can just imagine it. Americans rushing to Mexico for a better and safer life. Time for Letterman and Leno to get some laughs on that one.


Ha! Thanks for offering up this comment....it's a perfect example of how Paul's opposition is failing to find enough dirt on Paul to discredit him, so they are trying to do it by bashing his supporters.

What you are witnessing is not a bunch of supporters who are "full of themselves and obnoxious," what you're witnessing are VOTERS and AMERICANS who are fed up with the status quot and have found themselves a candidate who can actually instill trust!!!! WOW, what a concept, right? You don't like that people are happy about that and speak loudly and frequently in support of someone like this? TOO BAD! I would submit that the ones who deserve a raised eyebrow are those like you who find this concept hard to grasp and feel the necessity to openly criticize it.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 09:49 PM by simone50m
reply to post by redrose123


The day is late and the time is short. ...... I don't believe we will have another chance.


I --absolutely-- have been feeling that on all levels, like a six alarm fire. It scares me to the core of my soul.
If --anyone-- else gets in on the Repub or Dem (Hillary..) side, I have this irrepressable intuition, that major global war will proceed. The ultimate ritual sacrifice.


In regards to starry eyed Obama bots, it was temporary insanity caused by shock and trauma and indescribable disgust.
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