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Al Qaeda's Project for Ending the American Century Largely Succeeded

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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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WASHINGTON, Sep. 8, 2011 (IPS) - A decade after its spectacular Sep. 11, 2001 attacks on New York City's twin World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon and despite the killing earlier this year of its charismatic leader, Osama bin Laden, Al Qaeda appears to have largely succeeded in its hopes of accelerating the decline of U.S. global power, if not bringing it to the brink of collapse.

That appears to be the strong consensus of the foreign-policy elite which, with only a few exceptions, believes that the administration of President George W. Bush badly "over- reacted" to the attacks and that that over-reaction continues to this day.

That over-reaction was driven in major part by a close-knit group of neo-conservatives and other hawks who seized control of Bush's foreign policy even before the dust had settled over Lower Manhattan and set it on a radical course designed to consolidate Washington's dominance of the Greater Middle East and "shock and awe" any aspiring global or regional rival powers into acquiescing to a "unipolar" world.

Led within the administration by Vice President Dick Cheney, Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld and their mostly neo-conservative aides and supporters, the hawks had four years before joined the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). The letter-head organisation was co- founded by neo-conservative ideologues William Kristol and Robert Kagan, who, in an important 1996 article, called for the U.S. to preserve its post-Cold War "hegemony as far into the future as possible."






Source: www.ipsnews.net...

The beginning of the end of the once-great United States of America had already happened on 9/11.

It set the stage for the collapse of the empire, and the republic itself.

Ten years have elapsed since the beginning of the end, and look where you are right now.

The only superpower which would succeed the United States for superpower status is the fascist People's Republic of China, which has been propped up economically since 1972, and militarily since Bubba Klintoon supplied sensitive missile guidance technology to the ChiComs since the 1990s.

Soon, you would witness the day when the once-great United States is a shadow of its former glory, once lost, always lost, for eternity.

Compare that to the happier post Cold War, pre-9/11 era, and even the post-WWII heyday - times you would never get the chance to relive.

Now, everything in every facet of American society is in a roller-coaster ride downhill, and would reach its terminus by ca. 2025, if it can hold itself upright that long.

What do you think?




posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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You mean the US Government and the CIA largely succeeded in sacrificing America to create the New World Order.

The only final seal to the deal is the total economic collapse of America after the Dollar is dead and gone.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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AWESOME avatar

I gives u a star cause u like kratos too
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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:56 AM
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Thats funny I looked just now on Google maps and it clearly shows USA with clear outlining definitions. If I search Google Earth...I See over 500 known military bases around the world. Even stranger..this just in...the Dollar is a safe haven when Euro and China crash! Whats this? The Federal Reserve is a pawn of the United States? It cannot be..All of this money just gets lent out and it all goes right back to the reserve! I say! There are some discrepancies with your reporting here!

What I am willing to go with instead is that people have been preaching our end since our beginning and well..those who thought so never lived long enough to ever see it happen and probably never will. Id find a new concern to be worried about.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:56 AM
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Thanks



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:11 AM
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I think Jim Lobe (the journalist) is a little biased in his writing ability. I hate Bush.. I mean I can't frikkin stand him, but he was covering the conspiracy ties of 9/11 and the Bush administration when it first popped off. I think America will be fine. I am worried myself, and people can predict a doom and gloom future of America but I think conspiracy theorists do as a conspiracy theorist does and view the glass half empty. Good post.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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You can blame Al Qaeda.

I choose to blame Neo-Conservative response to Al Qaeda.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by ironfalcon
Soon, you would witness the day when the once-great United States is a shadow of its former glory, once lost, always lost, for eternity.


This thread will play well for many of the US detractors here at ATS who wish us the worse. I as an American refuse to be pessimistic. Contrary to popular opinion many of us have our eyes wide open.

I personally wish more Americans would stop pointing fingers and whining while laying blame on others. We put ourselves in this position by allowing TPTB to wreck the joint. We facilitated China's rise by buying Billions worth of every piece of garbage they produced [Whether we needed it or not] We chose to have cheap fuel and hemorrhage Billions upon Billions of dollars year after year to Middle East countries.

So now we find ourselves in a recession traditionally speaking a "Recession" is a good thing for the economy it gets rid of all the BS fluff. The problem this time around is that normally we would build homes and manufacture products our way out of the dip only this time around though housing sucks and almost all our consumer goods are manufactured in China.

So although I'll agree somewhat with the OPs premise I don't see it as being that catastrophic. I wish more Americans would simply GET off their ASS [That self imposed pity pot will leave a ring] and Stop thinking this is permanent state of being instead of what it really is a temporary situation.

We've been down before and we will be down again, but down and out permanently?

Hey OP
I didnt hear no bell!



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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by mudbeed
reply to post by ironfalcon
 


You can blame Al Qaeda.

I choose to blame Neo-Conservative response to Al Qaeda.


If I may ask, who exactly are the Neo-Conservatives that you are holding responsible?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by Drunkenparrot

Originally posted by mudbeed
reply to post by ironfalcon
 


You can blame Al Qaeda.

I choose to blame Neo-Conservative response to Al Qaeda.


If I may ask, who exactly are the Neo-Conservatives that you are holding responsible?


Funny you ask that.. Jim Lobe will answer that for ya!

What Is A Neo-Conservative?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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I will have to see if I can find the analysis again. Its been a over a year since I read it.. However, I can relate the gist of it and it pretty much supports the OPs position.

Basically it stated that AQ was a little unsure of the US response to 9/11. They feared we would deliver a very fast, very brutal, very damaging strike against Afghanistan - and then leave. However, the hope was that instead we would engage in a long, drawn out conflict that would enable them to basically finish us off by the death of a 1000 cuts. So yeah, we pretty much did (and are doing) exactly what they wanted us to.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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I doubt many of your claims are even close to being true...
if we... the US withdrew from world events... the third world would explode into chaos....
you'd see a return to tribal warfare and empire building...

If al qaeda had met their goals you would be praying in a Omsk right now... or you would be dead... and most certainly you would not be permitted on the Internet to express your views...

as for our economic problems... been there done that... the 30's were not good to us... but we bounced back bigger and better than ever... we will again... despite this type of defeatist propaganda

as for china being a super power... keep in mind they wouldn't have a stealth fighter right now if they didn't buy one of our cashed ones...they basically rebuilt and copied our designs... not what I'd call innovation
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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by 31Bravo

Originally posted by Drunkenparrot

Originally posted by mudbeed
reply to post by ironfalcon
 


You can blame Al Qaeda.

I choose to blame Neo-Conservative response to Al Qaeda.


If I may ask, who exactly are the Neo-Conservatives that you are holding responsible?


Funny you ask that.. Jim Lobe will answer that for ya!

What Is A Neo-Conservative?


A very interesting analysis. I particularly liked this part:



As neo-con godfather Irving Kristol once remarked, a neo-conservative is a ''liberal who was mugged by reality''. True to that description, neo-cons generally originated on the left side of the political spectrum and some times from the far left. Many, such as Kristol himself, have Trotskyite roots that are still reflected in their polemical and organisational skills and ideological zeal.


Which goes hand in hand with my own somewhat more subdued analysis that neocons are "democrats in republican clothing", AKA "RINOs". As I've said at ATS a gazillion times, "neocon" is a misnomer, since they are neither new NOR conservative!

It also goes a long way in explaining the current matching continuity among successive administrations, which for all the rhetoric can not be told apart where the rubber meets the road. they are NO different, and this is why - the neocons hijacked the conservative republican party, and are billing themselves as "conservatives" when they are nothing of the sort on strength of that association alone. Many former republicans have seen through that charade, which is why we are FORMER republicans. We didn't leave the party - it left US. At the same time, liberals roll merrily along, aiding and abetting the neocon takeover of the republican party by attempting to convince one and all that neocons are some how "conservative", and railing against them when in fact neocons do the bidding of leftists. It's a sham, a charade perpetrated by the left to confuse the populace to the fact that there are really no "right wingers" left any where in power in the US.

The current candidate field is no different, Mitt Romney is a quintissential neocon, and I would vote for Satan himself before I would vote for Romney. Better the devil you know, and one who makes no bones of being the devil, than the one trying to masquerade as something he's not. Same for Rick Perry. ANYONE trying to force new and useless things on an already overburdened populace (individual mandates, RomneyBama care, forced injections a la Perry) is NOT working in YOUR best interest - he's trying to grow an overbearing government, and that is the HALLMARK of a liberal.

Regardless of what one thinks of the christian bible, there is some good advice in it for general use - such as "by their fruits shall you know them". Judging by their "fruits", or past actions (rather than their current election time WORDS), I can nowhere see any republicans running in the republican primaries.

That CAN'T be a good thing - whoever you vote for, you'll get more of the same. The elections are ALREADY rigged.

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regarding the OP, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. I'm all for the US becoming the world's largest suicide bomber - if we're gonna go, let's take the rest with us! If you're gonna lose anyhow, go out making sure the opposition damn sure can't win either! you wanna change my mind, stop using made-up stories just to try to demonize the US - otherwise they really ought to become the demons you claim to fear, so as not to make liars out of you!



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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Which goes hand in hand with my own somewhat more subdued analysis that neocons are "democrats in republican clothing", AKA "RINOs".

love it!



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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Another bit of trivia pointing in that direction - both Mitt Romney AND Rick Perry used to be Democrats... and all indications are they still ARE.

Odd how the democrats appear to have taken over the republicans through the Neocon Trojan Horse, isn't it?

It seems there is a good reason that both major parties appear to be the same thing, on the same page, and both are running us straight into the jaws of ruin. Also odd is the entire attack of the democrats on the republicans, as if there were some difference. it seems to me that they are trying to convince someone of a difference that doesn't exist - but the most vitriolic attacks are on the tea party people, who are the greatest threat to the socialist agenda in play currently.

The Tea party should break away entirely from the republicans, and form a REAL conservative opposition party - otherwise we will ride straight into the jaws of hell, unopposed. Until and unless the Tea party does break away, I just can't bring myself to throw full support behind them.



edit on 2011/9/15 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)



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