Example: media distorts reality subliminally - Ron Paul MSNBC poll results., page 5


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reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 01:29 AM by pianopraze
reply to post by OutKast Searcher



Isn't it all the more amazing then that Ron Paul is doing so well and has such a loyal fan base?

Here is the person with the least amount of funding consistently decimating his competition in polls...

... ought to tell you something


reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 01:34 AM by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by pianopraze
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post by OutKast Searcher



Isn't it all the more amazing then that Ron Paul is doing so well and has such a loyal fan base?

Here is the person with the least amount of funding consistently decimating his competition in polls...

... ought to tell you something


Except he's not...that's what I'm trying to tell you.

Keep up the fantasy....I guess.


reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 01:34 AM by slowisfast
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you're right. i'm not saying he has Romney money. i wasn't making a comparison.
and i look forward to seeing Paul's new numbers when they release. if anything it shows how well his ideas resonate with the American people, seeing as he doesn't get the big corporate dollars as well as displaying that he's a bit more frugal.

if he loses? bummer. the political machine wins again. it's always a shame when the underdog, who espouses the correct views of the proper roles of government , loses....and probably a bit saddened that this, more than likely, will be his last go of it. what were you expecting?
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reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 02:24 AM by varikonniemi
Give them time. It is a radical change in their world view. Imagine the shock to realize one day that, gasp, you have been wrong in supporting the terrorizing wars around this globe and been taken for a ride of belief.

Remember the 5 stages of denial?

Denial — This can't be happening, the internet polls are skewed."
Denial is usually only a temporary defense for the individual.

Anger — "Why my candidate? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to my candidate?"; '"Who is to blame?"
Once in the second stage, the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the person is very difficult to care for due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy.

Bargaining — "I'll do anything for a few more votes, just as long as they go to my candidate."
The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow postpone or delay embarrassment. Psychologically, the individual is saying, "I understand my candidate will lose, but if I could just do something to buy my dignity back..."

Depression — "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I'm going to face the facts soon so whats the point... What's the point?"; "I miss my belief filled euphoria, why continue to care?"
During the fourth stage, the beaten person begins to understand the certainty of defeat. Because of this, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time crying and grieving.

Acceptance — "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well go with it."
In this last stage, the individual begins to come to terms with her/his miss-beliefs.

Most people denying Pauls success are still at stages one through three. As i said, give them time, the time has come, and there is nothing in this world to stop an idea whose time has come.
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reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 02:27 AM by slowisfast
reply to post by pianopraze



i understand where you're coming from but they are conspiracy theories until they become conspiracy fact.
don't get me wrong, i love a good conspiracy. while you might have feelings, feelings are arbitrary.

i try and worry about only that which i can control.
and i can control my vote and who i support with my dollars.


reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 02:31 AM by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by pianopraze



They have been using Obama for this purpose.


Exactly what has Obama done to further this "agenda" you are talking about???


Specifics would be great.


reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 03:05 AM by OutKast Searcher
Here is another resource for you guys.

If you don't believe polls...maybe you will believe predictive markets.

If you don't know how these work, it is basically like this. The website puts up an event...and you can by "shares" if you think that event will take place. If it happens...you make money. Simple right.

www.intrade.com...

Ron Paul to be Republican Presidential Nominee in 2012

3.0% CHANCE


So you can go buy a "share" for $0.30. If you guys are so confident that these polls are accurate...go make some easy money...buy up those cheap shares and make a ton of money.


On the other hand...you may want to check out Romney and Perry on the prediction markets first.

www.intrade.com...

Rick Perry to be Republican Presidential Nominee in 2012

35.7% CHANCE



www.intrade.com...

Mitt Romney to be Republican Presidential Nominee in 2012

36.9% CHANCE



Gee...thsoe look a lot more like the polls I find credible...and a lot less like the internet polls.


But go ahead...put your money where your mouth is.


reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 04:14 AM by imastew
reply to post by filosophia



Atleast MSNBC put his name on this poll. Most MSM just leaves him off. Talk about manipulation!


reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 06:25 AM by buster2010
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to
post by pianopraze



So what is your opinion of all these polls on this site?

www.realclearpolitics.com...


Are they all fixed? Are all those organizations working together to make it look like Ron Paul is doing very poorly in the nomination race???

What do you think of all these polls that don't back up the results of "internet polls"???


These polls are a joke. The reason why I say this is because you have people voting for Palin who isn't even in the race. This throws the numbers off so they are in no way accurate.


reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 09:05 AM by conar
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to
post by pianopraze



Step back and examine what you are saying.

You are saying they purposely want to misrepresnt Ron Paul...and yet they allow him to win an internet poll ON THEIR WEBSITE.

Have you lived under a rock the last few months?

Jon Steward did a skit on it
www.thedailyshow.com...

and there was a thread on ATS about the polls..
www.abovetopsecret.com...



After watching these, you have to admit they purposely want to misrepresnt Ron Paul, mr OutKast Searcher....
edit on 10-9-2011 by conar because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 09:36 AM by xBWOMPx
reply to post by pianopraze



Wow, really, I see a big difference between 14% and 57%


reply posted on 10-9-2011 @ 10:08 AM by Lapislazuli
reply to post by OutKast Searcher



Most major media outlets like CNN, Fox, and MSNBC have polls online as to who won the debate, and in the MSNBC one in particular, over 100,000 people voted for Ron Paul. One must assume that the majority support Ron Paul based on this data. On Fox, within a few short hours of the debate ending, Ron Paul had 8000 votes and beat every other candidate by thousands. (despite being ignored during the debate)

theswash.com...

This link also shows a state-by-state break down of the debate, showing that Ron Paul takes nearly every state.

Just because one site reports Ron Paul as losing does not mean its fact, and if you look at MOST polls, he wins by a significant amount. Casting these polls as "flooded by Ron Paul supporters to skew the polls" means nothing other than the fact that indeed, Ron Paul has many followers.

turner.mo2do.net...;jsessionid=1D5BBB2A9AACBACC9BF9C5C7C0E747B9?optPollOption=Rep.+Ron+Paul%2FTexas&vote=Vote

This link shows CNN's results of the poll. How can anyone discount that Ron Paul has a massive movement with devout supporters? and furthermore, that the media is desperately trying to hide that fact?
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