CBS puff piece on Muslims football team is perplexing

Originally posted by aching_knuckles
If this is true, why should any wrongs at all matter? I mean 10 years ago, 9/11 happened.

For one I wasn't alive when all those other wrongs were committed. I know you think you can place blame on me, because I have white skin, but I was born that way. None of us have a choice what color we're born. White people were slaves to the Romans and cultures the world over. Should we seek revenge for that?

And, while we are at it, do you really believe Jesus would act and think like you?

What? I'm not religious man. I said that in the OP. Poor attempt at deflection.

Originally posted by newcovenant
The negative reporting regarding on Christian prayer in school and everywhere else is a fairly recent development for this country. It is because Atheist are demanding to be recognized and treated with equal deference. That is another country with a whole other set of circumstances and salient facts and religious histories behind them.

No, its all happening right here in America. I think you're confused.

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Originally posted by Gannicus
So instead the demonize white people/Christians as frothing at the mouth racists who are just waiting for an opportunity to mistreat Muslims?

Originally posted by newcovenant
We don't have racist here? Is that what you are telling me?

Originally posted by Gannicus
Islam is a race? So that means when people bash Christians they're actually being racist?

Did I say Islam is a race? This is our discourse and why I asked you about racist. You say the news treats Christians as frothing at the mouth racist. I think if they are frothing then they should cover it. Like the Hillsborough Baptist Church for example and the KKK who don't go by that name any longer and have infiltrated mainstream so you see them on the news preaching their hatred and intolerance.

You are right that the media coverage is different but then the media is about news.
A break from fighting a war, for them is news.

It isn't for you or for us as we have the luxury of fighting the war from here, in front of our TV's with a tall cool lemonade. For you a sporting event isn't news and for them it is. Prayer or no prayer.

Originally posted by Gannicus

Originally posted by newcovenant
The negative reporting regarding on Christian prayer in school and everywhere else is a fairly recent development for this country. It is because Atheist are demanding to be recognized and treated with equal deference. That is another country with a whole other set of circumstances and salient facts and religious histories behind them.

No, its all happening right here in America. I think you're confused.

No.... I think maybe you just got here.

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Quite simply because it's politically correct to trash Christian teams while politically incorrect to trash "minority" beliefs like Islam.

Two words that will show that the OP is a bigot instantly about this issue and whining about Muslims doing anything in this society.

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One of the most respected college football programs out there, and it's Christian, not a word of complaint from CBS about that.

Originally posted by Gannicus


What? I'm not religious man. I said that in the OP. Poor attempt at deflection.

Yeh, youre not racist, and you arent religiousn, you are just really upset at how white Christians are being "oppressed". Uh right. I guess youre not a Republican either? You are as transparent as a window.

Originally posted by Gannicus

as people like you prove time and time again. The world just revolves around you and your beliefs, there is no room for anyone else. You literally make me sick.

From my perspective, you're describing yourself here. You seem to have a set of standards that you hold other people to, but not yourself.

No, there is a difference. You can believe what you want, Im just going to insult you for being bigoted and stupid. When people dont believe what you believe, you say "YOU CANT DO THAT!!". See the difference?

As fas as threatening violence over internet posts, there is a reason why guys like you say this crap anonymously on the internet. In the 1800s you would be challenged to a duel, and more than likely killed for your big mouth, In todays age, everyone is a tough guy with no fear of repercussion.

Originally posted by Frontkjemper
reply to post by Gannicus

 

Quite simply because it's politically correct to trash Christian teams while politically incorrect to trash "minority" beliefs like Islam.

And the lie gets repeated, and soon it becomes truth.

I see more praise for people of faith, especially in a sports context, than I see of this "trashing" that appears so common. When someone gets hurt and players form a prayer circle, do announcers say "Theres those idiots praying to the invisible man in the sky again!"? No, they say "What a sportsmanlike show of faith and strength!" Could you imagine what they would say if a whole team pointed toward mecca and bowed their heads to the ground?

You guys are just full of #.

Originally posted by Frontkjemper
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Quite simply because it's politically correct to trash Christian teams while politically incorrect to trash "minority" beliefs like Islam.

Maybe it is so in your world but I can think of no other where this is true. It is true in people's minds.
For the rest of us... a hero is a hero and an ass is an ass, regardless of beliefs or lack of them.

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by Gannicus


What? I'm not religious man. I said that in the OP. Poor attempt at deflection.

Yeh, youre not racist, and you arent religiousn, you are just really upset at how white Christians are being "oppressed". Uh right. I guess youre not a Republican either? You are as transparent as a window.

I'm none of the labels you want to give me in replacement of a good argument. But hey, I'm sure you're just a left wing socialist, self hating anti-white racist. Am I right?

Originally posted by newcovenant

Maybe it is so in your world but I can think of no other where this is true.

Really? Show me all the examples on this forum and from the MSM of people using the term "Chritianaphobe" and then compare it to "Islamophobe". I want you to show me examples of people in the media defending Christianity, ot promoting prayer at high school football games.

Originally posted by Gannicus

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by Gannicus


What? I'm not religious man. I said that in the OP. Poor attempt at deflection.

Yeh, youre not racist, and you arent religiousn, you are just really upset at how white Christians are being "oppressed". Uh right. I guess youre not a Republican either? You are as transparent as a window.

I'm none of the labels you want to give me in replacement of a good argument. But hey, I'm sure you're just a left wing socialist, self hating anti-white racist. Am I right?

No, but that didnt stop you calling me that earlier in the thread, and meaning it. So dont act now like you dont believe that. Oh, and by the way, nice deflection.

Originally posted by HauntWok


One of the most respected college football programs out there, and it's Christian, not a word of complaint from CBS about that.

Did you somehow miss the articles I posted about the ACLU fighting prayer at high school football games? Why aren't they going after Muslim prayer? Why is the same media that wags it's finger at Christian prayer, celebrating Islamic prayer as some kind of triumph?

Originally posted by aching_knuckles


No, but that didnt stop you calling me that earlier in the thread, and meaning it. So dont act now like you dont believe that. Oh, and by the way, nice deflection.

And here we have the typical left wing rationalization that, "its different when I do it!".

Originally posted by Gannicus

Originally posted by newcovenant

Maybe it is so in your world but I can think of no other where this is true.

Really? Show me all the examples on this forum and from the MSM of people using the term "Chritianaphobe" and then compare it to "Islamophobe". I want you to show me examples of people in the media defending Christianity, ot promoting prayer at high school football games.

Thats a good point. The fact that you never hear about Christianophobes means that there really arent that many....whereas Islamophobes seem to be prevalent, such as yourself.

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Thats a good point. The fact that you never hear about Christianophobes means that there really arent that many....whereas Islamophobes seem to be prevalent, such as yourself.

No, it means the people who throw around the term "Islamophobia" are doing so to deflect criticism of Islam, where as they agree with criticism of Christians and so they don't use the term as deflection. The term "islamaphobia" is used in the same was the word "racist" is used. Its meant to silence dissent without the need for logic or discussion.

Originally posted by Gannicus

Originally posted by HauntWok


One of the most respected college football programs out there, and it's Christian, not a word of complaint from CBS about that.

Did you somehow miss the articles I posted about the ACLU fighting prayer at high school football games? Why aren't they going after Muslim prayer? Why is the same media that wags it's finger at Christian prayer, celebrating Islamic prayer as some kind of triumph?

Originally posted by aching_knuckles


No, but that didnt stop you calling me that earlier in the thread, and meaning it. So dont act now like you dont believe that. Oh, and by the way, nice deflection.

And here we have the typical left wing rationalization that, "its different when I do it!".

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Why dont you file a suit and have the ACLU help you over this particular team then? It is your right. After all, there is apparently a legal precedent.

Originally posted by Gannicus

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Thats a good point. The fact that you never hear about Christianophobes means that there really arent that many....whereas Islamophobes seem to be prevalent, such as yourself.

No, it means the people who throw around the term "Islamophobia" are doing so to deflect criticism of Islam, where as they agree with criticism of Christians and so they don't use the term as deflection. The term "islamaphobia" is used in the same was the word "racist" is used. Its meant to silence dissent without the need for logic or discussion.

No, its because there is no discussion to be had with racists or Islamophobes, they only see one point of view. Which you are proving over and over in this thread.

Originally posted by aching_knuckles
I would love to see hyprocritical christians such as yourself skewered by the mainstream news media, but it doesnt happen.

I'm not a christian! I don't believe in organized religion!

You must be Islamic. I don't care if you say you're not. You're defending Islam, so you must be Islamic. You're also defending the MSM, which means you're probably a Democrat.

Yes, I'm generalizing just like you but its different when I do it.

Originally posted by Gannicus

Originally posted by HauntWok


One of the most respected college football programs out there, and it's Christian, not a word of complaint from CBS about that.

Did you somehow miss the articles I posted about the ACLU fighting prayer at high school football games? Why aren't they going after Muslim prayer? Why is the same media that wags it's finger at Christian prayer, celebrating Islamic prayer as some kind of triumph?

Originally posted by aching_knuckles


No, but that didnt stop you calling me that earlier in the thread, and meaning it. So dont act now like you dont believe that. Oh, and by the way, nice deflection.

And here we have the typical left wing rationalization that, "its different when I do it!".

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"Typical left wing rationalization"....werent you the one talking about not stereotyping? Are you being an ironic troll?