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Iranian Shahab 3 armed with GPS.

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posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 11:32 AM
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Tehran has procured and integrated a Chinese missile navigation system into the Shihab-3 apparently based on the Global Positioning System, or GPS.

worldnetdaily.com...

[edit on 20-8-2004 by persian]




posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 12:07 PM
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GPS can be turned off very quickly one a missile is in the air as the US owns the system. I assume it has an Inertial backup?



posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by FredT
GPS can be turned off very quickly one a missile is in the air as the US owns the system. I assume it has an Inertial backup?


Not if it has been revered engineered.



posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 12:12 PM
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First of all if its part of the US Airfare owned GPS system it can be turned off by uncle Sam. If its part of the Chinese system which is not operational yet its different story. China currently has 2 satellites up and you need three to have a working system. This "GPs" on the shab wont be in use until the Chinese complete their 3rd satellite.

Reverse engineered boy are you misinformed
Hoe are you going to reverse engineer a US satellite system. If the US shuts down the satellite that the Iranians are using WTF are you going to reverse engineer? Genius
GPS cannot be reversed engineered because its dependant on the satellites.


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posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
First of all if its part of the US Airfare owned GPS system ]





does it even deserv a response??
, other nations have gps too you know, even such #holes as iran, maybe russia supplied it with glonass??



posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 12:27 PM
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by the way, most chances is this pseudo gps is supplied by china, so it can be destructed by a microwave oven
(the serbs did that), israeli high tech capabileties will knock it out/jam for sure



posted on Aug, 20 2004 @ 12:27 PM
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Talking nonsense again WestPoint23?
I dont think Iran would spend millions of dollars for something that can be turn off and turn on by its foe dont you think?



posted on Aug, 21 2004 @ 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by persian
Talking nonsense again WestPoint23?
I dont think Iran would spend millions of dollars for something that can be turn off and turn on by its foe dont you think?


It looks like that yes, Iran doesn't have its own GPS system, abd relying on other countries could be disasterous. And it is not true that you need only 3 sats for GPS. 3 satelites are minimum and they must be reachable (cruising over area). Why do you think that Europeans are now trying to deploy 27 satelites?



posted on Aug, 21 2004 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by persian
Not if it has been revered engineered.


Yes it can, the Defence Department can scramble the signals over a given area. Kind of loses its tactical advantage if the enemy can use your system. So no matter what kind of reciever you have it can't make heads or tails of the system. or if the NSA is really good, maybe it can sned bogus signals and move the missile way off target....



posted on Aug, 21 2004 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by Hocico
does it even deserv a response??
, other nations have gps too you know, even such #holes as iran, maybe russia supplied it with glonass??


Glosnas the last I read in AWST is down so many satelites that it is on the verge of becoming non functional. Until Galilleo makes its apearance, GPS really is the prevue of the US.



posted on Aug, 21 2004 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by FredT

Originally posted by Hocico
does it even deserv a response??
, other nations have gps too you know, even such #holes as iran, maybe russia supplied it with glonass??


Glosnas the last I read in AWST is down so many satelites that it is on the verge of becoming non functional. Until Galilleo makes its apearance, GPS really is the prevue of the US.





why are you so full of fecal matter fred?
, glonass network is fully operational
, russia still leads in space as you can see it delivers your sorry ass to the iss for free



posted on Aug, 21 2004 @ 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by FredT
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Glosnas the last I read in AWST is down so many satelites that it is on the verge of becoming non functional. Until Galilleo makes its apearance, GPS really is the prevue of the US.



I think you are talking about the russian early warning satellite system, which is really in shi*tty status.

[edit on 21-8-2004 by longbow]



posted on Aug, 21 2004 @ 04:52 AM
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We'll see what happens when Iran starts doing whatever it wants with nuclear materials. If Israel and the US do not attack, then Iran has public or private methods of deterrence. I'm most curious as to whether or not it's true that nuclear-tipped Russian Sunburn missiles are deployed in Iran.



posted on Aug, 21 2004 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by Hocico
why are you so full of fecal matter fred?
, glonass network is fully operational
, russia still leads in space as you can see it delivers your sorry ass to the iss for free


Hmmmmm perhaps you should clear your ears of fecal matter before you pop off.




GLONASS was designed to operate a system of 24 satellites (21 operational, and three spares for failover redundancy) orbiting at a height of 19,140 kilometers in three circular planes, at an inclination of 64.8 degrees relevant to the equatorial plane. However, because of a lack of maintenance funding, fewer than half of the GLONASS satellites are likely to be in operation at any given time.
searchnetworking.techtarget.com...





1.STATUS Information Group

GLONASS Constellation Status
(February 04, 2003)

GLONASS Cosmos Plane/ Frequ. Launch Intro Status Outage
number number slot chann. date date date

784 2363 1/08 08 30.12.98 29.01.99 operating
786 2362 1/07 07 30.12.98 29.01.99 operating
783 2374 3/18 10 13.10.00 05.01.01 operating
787 2375 3/17 05 13.10.00 04.11.00 operating
788 2376 3/24 03 13.10.00 21.11.00 operating
789 2381 1/03 12 01.12.01 04.01.02 operating
790 2380 1/06 09 01.12.01 04.01.02 unusable 08.01.03
711 2382 1/05 01.12.01
791 2394 3/22 10 25.12.02 21.01.03 operating
792 2395 3/21 05 25.12.02 31.01.03 operating
793 2396 3/23 11 25.12.02 31.01.03 operating
Note: All the dates (DD.MM.YY) are given at Moscow Time (UTC+0300)


Hmm that seems to be less than 11 working Sats. You need more than double that for effective coverage don't ya. Please do some basic research before you tell me im FOS. Get a grip



posted on Aug, 21 2004 @ 05:39 AM
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outdated information



posted on Aug, 21 2004 @ 05:48 AM
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Ok here is one from the official web site same sad numbers of satelites. the bottom line is with a design life of 1-2 years they just cannot afford to keep up the system. Period. You should really do a little research before posting.



1.STATUS Information Group
GLONASS Constellation Status
( August 20, 2004)


GLONASS Cosmos Plane/ Frequ. Launch Intro Status Outage
number number slot chann. date date date
794 2402 1/02 04 10.12.2003 02.02.2004 operating
789 2381 1/03 12 01.12.2001 04.01.2002 operating
795 2403 1/04 06 10.12.2003 30.01.2004 operating
711 2382 1/05 02 01.12.2001 15.04.2003 operating
701 2404 1/06 10.12.2003
787 2375 3/17 05 13.10.2000 04.11.2000 operating
783 2374 3/18 10 13.10.2000 05.01.2001 operating
792 2395 3/21 05 25.12.2002 31.01.2003 operating
791 2394 3/22 10 25.12.2002 10.02.2003 operating
793 2396 3/23 11 25.12.2002 31.01.2003 operating
788 2376 3/24 03 13.10.2000 21.11.2000 operating
Note: All the dates (DD.MM.YY) are given at Moscow Time (UTC+0300




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[edit on 21-8-2004 by FredT]

[edit on 21-8-2004 by FredT]



posted on Aug, 22 2004 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by taibunsuu
We'll see what happens when Iran starts doing whatever it wants with nuclear materials. If Israel and the US do not attack, then Iran has public or private methods of deterrence. I'm most curious as to whether or not it's true that nuclear-tipped Russian Sunburn missiles are deployed in Iran.


Iran purchased some SS-N-22 (Sunburn) from Russia in 1992, and I believe in 1999 or 2000 they have purchased the newer version SS-N-25 which uses a different technology but Sunburn have only 200 Km range. Iran is making RAAD which is 360 KM supersonic anti-ship missile.




posted on Aug, 22 2004 @ 03:20 AM
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I gotta tell you the missile on the stand looks like a old silkworm missile. Hardly state of the art......



posted on Aug, 22 2004 @ 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by FredT
I gotta tell you the missile on the stand looks like a old silkworm missile. Hardly state of the art......




FredT my friend, you keep disappointing me. You are saying this is same as the one I have posted?


www.softwar.net..." target='_blank' class='tabOff'/>




[edit on 22-8-2004 by persian]



posted on Aug, 22 2004 @ 03:40 AM
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The bottom missile looks like a slightly redone silkworm. In fact that picture is from a AWST article earlier in the year. I will try to find it.



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