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Gary Tuchman reports on an author who says you must spank your child and a couple who killed their daughter doing it.
Originally posted by CaDreamer
"He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24) and "Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14)
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
a god of love?edit on 16-8-2011 by CaDreamer because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by nuttin4U
People acting like children are second rate citizens is why children cause problems. Children act out for attention, period.
My child is teh best behaved on in preschool and I have never laid a hand on him. You speak to a child using the words they understand at their level and you would be surprised of the results you will get. Respect begets respect.
He knows the rules, he knows I mean business. Some children may need a spanking to get the point across.
You know what happens if you punish a child for lying? You encourage them to become better liars.
They will come up with more scrupulous ways to avoid becoming caught.
Who takes child rearing advice from the bible? Seriously.
Originally posted by pshea38
reply to post by ManOfGod267
You have no right to use any violence against another human being, except in self
defence. Why anyone would hit their child is beyond me. I have never once laid
a finger on my 9 year old son and we have a great relationship and love each
other very much. He is far from spoiled. If a parent cannot deal with any problems
regarding their child intellectually and without the use or threat of violence, then they should not
be a parent. How can anyone hit someone they love, and claim it is for the good?
No.No.No!! You have no right!
The "man" will have NO MERCY when your child messes up and breaks the law; and these days...that's getting easier to do...with all the rules and regulations the "man" has put on us. In the 'man's" mind.....we're all disobedient children...and he's waiting to put the smack down on us!
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by nuttin4U
The "man" will have NO MERCY when your child messes up and breaks the law; and these days...that's getting easier to do...with all the rules and regulations the "man" has put on us. In the 'man's" mind.....we're all disobedient children...and he's waiting to put the smack down on us!
I didn't "hit" him, but I did physically correct him, and I did startle and frighten him a little, and it worked.
My wife has that problem with our kids. When she takes them out...they act a fool....simply because she does NOTHING. When i take my kids out...they KNOW how to act, because they KNOW i'm not tolerating them embarassing me, in public. Apparently, my wife doesn't seem to mind; yet, she wonders why they won't listen?
Originally posted by nuttin4U
Originally posted by pshea38
reply to post by ManOfGod267
You have no right to use any violence against another human being, except in self
defence. Why anyone would hit their child is beyond me. I have never once laid
a finger on my 9 year old son and we have a great relationship and love each
other very much. He is far from spoiled. If a parent cannot deal with any problems
regarding their child intellectually and without the use or threat of violence, then they should not
be a parent. How can anyone hit someone they love, and claim it is for the good?
No.No.No!! You have no right!
You have EVERY RIGHT. What you have no right to do, is tell me how to raise....MY CHILD! That's where the biggest problem is...people are worried about my house, and not their own. It's MY CHILD!!! What part don't you get? Like my momma always used to say...."I brought you into this world.....I'll take you out!"
I would love to know the ages of some of these, non-disciplining parents of today. 21 years old...with a baby, hardly makes you an adult. You're still trying to figure out your life...and you're gonna give the best to your child? ahahahah I doubt it!
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by nuttin4U
My wife has that problem with our kids. When she takes them out...they act a fool....simply because she does NOTHING. When i take my kids out...they KNOW how to act, because they KNOW i'm not tolerating them embarassing me, in public. Apparently, my wife doesn't seem to mind; yet, she wonders why they won't listen?
Mine Too!!
My kids act great with me, and we always have a great time when we go out together. When my wife takes them out and then comes home, she complains about how misbehaved they are, and how exhausted she is.
Her problem is not "picking her battles." She constantly corrects them over the smallest things without any intention of following through. So they just get used to ignoring her. Whereas, I let them get away with a lot, and I don't say much, but they know when I speak up, I mean it, and they only get the one chance to straighten up.