>jumpspace, the site i referenced was the CEC's site, and the CEC is not part of the ALP.
Come on stoneskull - have you looked at the member list? It's all unions and labor supporters, ie LABOR!
>Kim Beazley was way in front of John Howard as preferred PM, and the ALP was ahead of Liberal as preferred government.. and then 911 and Tampa
Yes...so what? It's the reaction of Beazley and how he reacted that killed him...it would have even helped Beazley if he had a decent policy at the
>The muck-raking of Mark Latham has been disgusting.
Right...and what about the recent lie about this list of lies that Howard did? Labor are targeting howard BIG TIME. Raking re latham? That's not
coming from the libs I'm afraid - it's his big mouth that get's him into trouble there.
>He denies king-hitting that guy, and there's no evidence that he did, and jeez, fights happen.
And why would a labor guy come out and say that Latham did king hit him? What about the taxi driver? A fight is fine but when you king hit someone (ie
hit someone when they've got their back to you) it's simply a coward act. Anyone who king hits someone else is a COWARD!
>And that whole saga about the bachelor party - now, that's a joke. How many bachelor parties have strippers? A lot. It's in the past, and big deal.
Having a stripper is fine but I think you'll find what was done was a bit "sick and twisted".
On another note, you say "it's in the past"...why dn't you apply that same reasoning to the AB people? Like I said, the sooner they look forward,
the sooner they will be more of a proud people. I think it's sad the small minority of AB's are causing all this shlt.
>You know who we borrow money from? Who we pay it back to?
>Do you understand both major parties are owned by the bank?
Evidence? You're pulling strings here...politics is very complex and the journey to the top is very complex as well. No-one "owns" any party -
there are intertwined relationships that, yes, do include banks but it's the ministers etc etc with their own interests - as well as friends and the
people that helped them there and their peer ministers etc etc - that create these complex relationships.
>Yeah, the Liberals brought in the GST which has been reaping stacks of money in, (statistically from the lower-income earners, i.e. income/spending
Yes and ALL that money is given to the States and ALL the states are LABOR PARTY CONTROLLED. And ALL the states are partly responsible for School
funding, roads etc etc.
>...and the interest rates are not the government's control.
No, they're based on the economy of the country. Guess who directs money into different industries and creates policies to "fine tune" a country's
policies that determine the economy of the country? You guessed it, the Fed. Govt.
>...they come from the privately owned Reserve Bank.
*sigh* Now the Reserve Bank is privately owned. LOL. Come on stoneskull, if you're going to become an independent, you're going to have to know a
Here's an extract from the reserve bank act:
Subject to subsection (2), the net profits of the Bank in each year shall be dealt with as follows:
(aa) such amount as the Treasurer, after consultation with the Reserve Bank Board, determines is to be set aside for contingencies; and
(a) such amount as the Treasurer, after consultation with the Reserve Bank Board, determines shall be placed to the credit of the Reserve Bank Reserve
(b) the remainder shall be paid to the Commonwealth.
Now if the reserve bank was privately owned, why are all the profits going to government? Also, who appoints the top dog of the reserve bank? Yes, the
Here's a link to the reserve bank act:
>Private Schools receiving public money, let alone more public money than the public schools, is ridiculous and horrible.
Stoneskull, I'm starting to get upset now. You make all these claims but you really do not know what you are talking about. Regarding schools, you
will find that the libs have INCREASED (even above real terms) funding to public schools since they came into power.
ALSO, the state governments are receiving HEAPS of more money via the GST and where is it going? The Fed. govt. component of school funding has
increased WAY ABOVE the state goverment's component.
Do your research! If you are going to become and independent, you're going to get shot down in flames!
>And the recent Friday 13 Free Trade agreement is a whole other issue.. indeed a black day for a Australia).
Regarding? Why did labor support it then?
>And you ask WTF quality journalism has to do with the Libs. Well, since the Libs came into power, the ABC has had its funding cut three times, the
ABC's "school of journalism" was shut down, a school that was responsible for many of our top journalists. Foreign Correspondent's funding was cut
by 50%, Four Corners budget was cut by a similar amount, and there have been threats to cut even more of ABC's money.
So the ABC controls ALL journalism in Australia? Nope! I'd also like to see links to these facts please stoneskull...I'd be interested in seeing
On another note, Channel 7, 9 and 10 have a "theme" intro that changes probably twice a year.
The ABC have a theme intro that changes twice every week. If the ABC is so under-funded, WHY are they wasting so much money on simple theme changes?
Couldn't they divert that into more needed areas?
>You're right, it wasn't just the Australian Aborigines that were murdered and had their culture and history destroyed by Europe's Royal
Well I was talking about the stolen generation. What are you talking about? You can't change topic mid way stoneskull when you lose a point
>...there is the North American, South American, African, and Asian indiginous cultures who were similarly trampled on.
BIG DEAL! That's history - get over it! How many cultures in the world were WIPED OUT due to conquering nations?
Also, who's to say that the AB's never conquered some other culture?
>Finally, if and when we become a republic, I will be supporting and advocating giving all Crown Land back to the Koories
Why? The top part of aus (and I believe the best part) is owned by the AB's...and that's the way it should be - they're the gatekeepers.
Tell you what, why don't you make a public announcement and hand over any property that you have worked hard all your life for and hand it to the
AB's...No? Nah, I didn't think so!
>...and would also like to see the powers of the Reserve Bank, i.e. the printing of Australia's money, and subsequent loaning of that money to
Australia's government, given to the Koories.
Right...and I suppose the management of the money would be the same as how ATSIC managed their money? LOL. Why do you think the management of the
AB's money was taken from ATSIC? They don't know how to manage money!
>I'd also like to see the Aboriginal flag become our National flag.
Why? Don't you want a flag for all the people?
>These actions would, among other benefits, protect us from the UN taking ownership over our land, and a long future for the nation.
Well, we would be bankrupt and no-one would be interested in us so I gues you are right here