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Schools employ company to monitor students online

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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Schools employ company to monitor students online


www.abc.net.au

An internet monitoring company, SR7, says it is been employed by some private high schools around Australia to keep track of students' social media activity.
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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Here we go,take away more freedoms in the name of keeping you safe.
While i do not condone bullying of any kind,we are seeing schools take the same direction as employers spying on facebook and other social media.
I can see many problems arising here as the school will have access to lots of information to build profiles.
Roll on 1984

www.abc.net.au
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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Simple solution to this... Don't put your life story on crappy social media sites...



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Anyone that uses facebook wants their life to be veiwed by all.
So anyone using these site's and posting their life on them deserve's to have their life scrutinised and judged.
So dont put your life on a web site is my advice

ETA
Misterlondon beat me to it.
Star for you Mister

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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Wait, you mean what they do outside of school and post online through a personal computer?

I, just, Ugh.

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I mean, if there's illegal, or pertaining to the school, stuff on someones facebook. They shouldn't be forced to turn a blind eye just because it's online. Still though, to actively Stalk their students is wrong.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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Only thing people can see on my Facebook is a friend request link, unless i accept they cant see Anything, No matter what is brought out there will always be a solution or a way round it, people worry too much,



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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I know this is in Australia but I think it raises an interesting point regarding American schools and their roles in students lives.

Schools are being blamed more and more for the poor outcomes of the students who attend them. Compensation is increasingly based on objectively measurable student performance, and a lot of money and a lot of jobs are at stake. Yet we seem to be hesitant to have a public conversation about the responsibility of parents, and to acknowledge that growing up with little parental involvement in a culture where education is not stressed virtually prohibits the kinds of successful outcomes facilitated by a stimulating home life in which education is important and parents read with their children regularly.

Given this situation, and the fact that there's no obvious way to make parents be better parents, the school systems are likely to extend their influence outside of the classroom. They have a lot to lose based on student performance, and student performance is dependent largely on a students life outside of school. Therefore, expect to see the schools try to control more and more of what happens outside of the classroom.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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if you did that in Europe, you would get your ass handed to you on a silver platter for invasion of privacy.

WTF is wrong with the rest of the world, they criticise Europe yet we have some of the highest privacy and social care and worker rights in the world

You all cry it is bad and evil and new world order etc etc yet we are the happiest, healthiest and the most protected.

You all equate (via ignorance) that socialism is as bad as communism, nazism and nanny state, but you all seem to be worse off than us and all the bad things you say about our way of life would never be tolerated here, are being commited in your own countries.


I am guessing it is just jealousy.


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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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And by 2054, these private secondary schools will hire a company, The Minority Report to help stop bullying.


These are private schools, which should be free to do as they please, as long as no law is broken. However, this does seem like an excessive approach to dealing with bullying. In the bullying cases I'm aware of, the school had been made aware of cyberbullying already, didn''t need a business to do that.

Could be the schools want to CYA, but just what is the school's responsibility/actions if it catches a cyberbully through this service? Do parents get a report if their student is suspected?



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by desert
And by 2054, these private secondary schools will hire a company, The Minority Report to help stop bullying.


These are private schools, which should be free to do as they please, as long as no law is broken. However, this does seem like an excessive approach to dealing with bullying. In the bullying cases I'm aware of, the school had been made aware of cyberbullying already, didn''t need a business to do that.

Could be the schools want to CYA, but just what is the school's responsibility/actions if it catches a cyberbully through this service? Do parents get a report if their student is suspected?


Bullying is a parenting and social problem. Not a business/accounting problem.


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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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If the monitoring is being done on the school's network then there is no way a reasonable person would expect any sort of privacy. If the monitoring extends to a "tap" (for lack of a better word) of other means of accessing the Net that could be overstepping a boundary.

If you access the Net using someone else's equipment than you should have no expectation of privacy.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by Dilligaf28
If the monitoring is being done on the school's network then there is no way a reasonable person would expect any sort of privacy. If the monitoring extends to a "tap" (for lack of a better word) of other means of accessing the Net that could be overstepping a boundary.

If you access the Net using someone else's equipment than you should have no expectation of privacy.



Ever wonder why so many American companies fail in Europe? Yeah.
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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by desert
These are private schools, which should be free to do as they please, as long as no law is broken.


yeah, i think a lot of people in this thread missed that word, "private" schools.

parents pay money to send their kids there for a reason, and its usually because they dont really want to bother raising their kids themselves. LOL. just kidding.
its because they want that added level of "pay me and i'll give a #### about your kid / you cant sue me for slapping them when they mouth off" sorta deal.

if it were public schools(in america at least) i would mostly be concerned with how they could possibly afford such a thing.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by BohemianBrim

Originally posted by desert
These are private schools, which should be free to do as they please, as long as no law is broken.


yeah, i think a lot of people in this thread missed that word, "private" schools.

parents pay money to send their kids there for a reason, and its usually because they dont really want to bother raising their kids themselves. LOL. just kidding.
its because they want that added level of "pay me and i'll give a #### about your kid / you cant sue me for slapping them when they mouth off" sorta deal.

if it were public schools(in america at least) i would mostly be concerned with how they could possibly afford such a thing.


"Private" does not mean you lose your fundamental rights.

No matter what paper you sign, you cannot sign your rights away. EVER.


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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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um, i beg to differ.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by BohemianBrim
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um, i beg to differ.


Care to expand on your begging?



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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now youre just being silly.

these kids are on PUBLIC websites saying these things PUBLICLY

if any pedophile can get on there and read and look at their pics, whats the harm in their school taking a look?

dont be silly.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by BohemianBrim
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reply to edit:
now youre just being silly.

these kids are on PUBLIC websites saying these things PUBLICLY

if any pedophile can get on there and read and look at their pics, whats the harm in their school taking a look?

dont be silly.


Sure, nothing "technically" can stop them but that is crossign the line on stalking and harassment and if somebody decides to do something about it, they are in deep dodo.

"Technically" i can kill a person with information , yes I can, I am not kidding here, there are terrorists groups that would love to know some more info on specific people, I could just "technically" connect the dots publically, they do the rest.

If I am caught I would get done big time. But technically, I could do it.
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posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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i dont think you know what it means to go to private school.
those parents pay those crazy tuitions for a reason.



posted on Aug, 13 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by BohemianBrim
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i dont think you know what it means to go to private school.
those parents pay those crazy tuitions for a reason.


Yes I do, but you cannot sign your rights away in ANY private deal ever here.

Sure they could "technically" do anything, but if caught or challenged, big problem.

Just because you have the "capability technically" to do something, does not automatically give you the "right" to do anything.

The solution here is if they dont want people surfing to various sites online on their hardware, then block it at the router, but you do not have the "right" to stalk and harass people online or otherwise.

You can control your network yes, but you cannot spy on people, invade their privacy or stalk or harass people.

BIG BIG difference.


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