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Mitt Romney is just another in a long line of wealthy, soulless career politicians who have no clue what it is to be an average, struggling, working class American trying to survive.
I would never vote for this man. Ever.
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
My main issue with corporations being "people" is that they cannot be held criminally liable. Corporations cannot go to jail or face the death penalty.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Janky Red
i cant stand romney but i cant stand liars who twist things to suit their own agendas.
the full length video is on youtube for anyone who cares to watch it.
romney is a rino i know it thats why i dont want him as potus.
hes a poser.edit on 11-8-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AMANNAMEDQUEST
Despite not being natural persons, corporations are recognized by the law to have rights and responsibilities like natural persons ("people"). Corporations can exercise human rights against real individuals and the state,[2] and they can themselves be responsible for human rights violations.[3] Corporations are conceptually immortal but they can "die" when they are "dissolved" either by statutory operation, order of court, or voluntary action on the part of shareholders. Insolvency may result in a form of corporate 'death', when creditors force the liquidation and dissolution of the corporation under court order,[4] but it most often results in a restructuring of corporate holdings. Corporations can even be convicted of criminal offenses, such as fraud and manslaughter.[5
Yes, corporations are "people." I'm not really sure what the issue is with him saying so.
When a corporation poisons a towns water supply, or the land, or the air and kills or maims hundreds or thousands of people do you really think a fine is adequate punishment?
Originally posted by JennaDarling
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
My main issue with corporations being "people" is that they cannot be held criminally liable. Corporations cannot go to jail or face the death penalty.
Officers of corporations can go to jail.
What is your fascination with the death penalty? The mind boggles. Is it just pure vengence or hatred or wanton murder?
That is the problem. The reason corporations act so evilly is that they CANNOT be held to the same standard as real people. Think about that.
Originally posted by AMANNAMEDQUEST
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
My main issue with corporations being "people" is that they cannot be held criminally liable. Corporations cannot go to jail or face the death penalty.
Where are you parroting this from? They can be held criminally liable and have been. A corporation can be dissolved but go to jail? That's not even logical.
socialist Romney care
Originally posted by neo96
yeah yeah did watch the whole exhange did we?
the so called "hecklers" was a plant by liberals who were trying to bait romney they were from some crap called a "liberal think tank"
before anyone comments and romney did say he would close corporation tax loopholes.
i have watched that exchange about 5 times now pretty easy to post any video from youtube and twist it to suit your own agendas.
meh.
and corporations are made up of people middle class people who work for a living go ahead keep demonizing them and putting all those "good little middle class folks" out of work.
edit on 11-8-2011 by neo96 because: bad typing day sue me
the so called "hecklers" was a plant by liberals who were trying to bait romney they were from some crap called a "liberal think tank"
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
When a corporation poisons a towns water supply, or the land, or the air and kills or maims hundreds or thousands of people do you really think a fine is adequate punishment?
Originally posted by JennaDarling
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
My main issue with corporations being "people" is that they cannot be held criminally liable. Corporations cannot go to jail or face the death penalty.
Officers of corporations can go to jail.
What is your fascination with the death penalty? The mind boggles. Is it just pure vengence or hatred or wanton murder?
Charging a corporation, however, does not mean that individual directors, officers, employees, or shareholders should not also be charged. Prosecution of a corporation is not a substitute for the prosecution of criminally culpable individuals within or without the corporation. Because a corporation can act only through individuals, imposition of individual criminal liability may provide the strongest deterrent against future corporate wrongdoing. Only rarely should provable individual culpability not be pursued, even in the face of offers of corporate guilty pleas.
Corporations are "legal persons," capable of suing and being sued, and capable of committing crimes. Under the doctrine of respondeat superior, a corporation may be held criminally liable for the illegal acts of its directors, officers, employees, and agents. To hold a corporation liable for these actions, the government must establish that the corporate agent's actions (i) were within the scope of his duties and (ii) were intended, at least in part, to benefit the corporation. In all cases involving wrongdoing by corporate agents, prosecutors should consider the corporation, as well as the responsible individuals, as potential criminal targets
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by buster2010
i am not having this conversation if you people want to act like a bunch of fascist communist socialists
feel free i will have no part of it.