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Mitt Romney says corporations are people

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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Mitt Romney is just another in a long line of wealthy, soulless career politicians who have no clue what it is to be an average, struggling, working class American trying to survive.


I agree to an extent, but POTUS wants everyone to be dependent, and that's not right either.



I would never vote for this man. Ever.


Are you saying you would vote for the current ADM or just forgo?




posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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I could give this more credence if there wasn't an edit in the film between the teacher's question and Mitt's response. What was discussed between that time?



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
My main issue with corporations being "people" is that they cannot be held criminally liable. Corporations cannot go to jail or face the death penalty.


Where are you parroting this from? They can be held criminally liable and have been. A corporation can be dissolved but go to jail? That's not even logical.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Janky Red
 


i cant stand romney but i cant stand liars who twist things to suit their own agendas.

the full length video is on youtube for anyone who cares to watch it.

romney is a rino i know it thats why i dont want him as potus.

hes a poser.
edit on 11-8-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

You realize that it was fox news that twisted the video first, right?



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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In 1886 supreme court ruled that corporations have the same rights as human beings based off of the 14th amendment. They are not actual persons, but a representation of a person who doesn't exist with the full rights of a person. We as citizens have the same representation in the legal system where a non existant artificial person is represented by us which practically makes us the same as corporations, with a different name.

While the guy is a clown, and whether the comment was made out of his rambling bunglery, it's still a pretty truthful claim.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by AMANNAMEDQUEST

Despite not being natural persons, corporations are recognized by the law to have rights and responsibilities like natural persons ("people"). Corporations can exercise human rights against real individuals and the state,[2] and they can themselves be responsible for human rights violations.[3] Corporations are conceptually immortal but they can "die" when they are "dissolved" either by statutory operation, order of court, or voluntary action on the part of shareholders. Insolvency may result in a form of corporate 'death', when creditors force the liquidation and dissolution of the corporation under court order,[4] but it most often results in a restructuring of corporate holdings. Corporations can even be convicted of criminal offenses, such as fraud and manslaughter.[5


Yes, corporations are "people." I'm not really sure what the issue is with him saying so.


I was just about to post something similar thank you.

Corporations are an entity onto themselves and are regarded as such world wide.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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Legally speaking Corporations have always been 'people'

The body Corporate and all that.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by JennaDarling

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
My main issue with corporations being "people" is that they cannot be held criminally liable. Corporations cannot go to jail or face the death penalty.


Officers of corporations can go to jail.

What is your fascination with the death penalty? The mind boggles. Is it just pure vengence or hatred or wanton murder?

When a corporation poisons a towns water supply, or the land, or the air and kills or maims hundreds or thousands of people do you really think a fine is adequate punishment?



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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Ok so when do we see Pepsi or CocaCola run for president?

Surely they are more elligable than Obama, right?



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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hilarious bring up fox why? didnt mention it i said youtube

i was jsut watching cbs,nbc,abc news footage and you want to talk twisted

and then the content of what was being said by all those "upset" folks

who have no clue how corporations or social security work all those people are off in their own little worlds and think half of federal government spending isnt due from social security medicaid and medicare.

r
edit on 11-8-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by AMANNAMEDQUEST

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
My main issue with corporations being "people" is that they cannot be held criminally liable. Corporations cannot go to jail or face the death penalty.


Where are you parroting this from? They can be held criminally liable and have been. A corporation can be dissolved but go to jail? That's not even logical.
That is the problem. The reason corporations act so evilly is that they CANNOT be held to the same standard as real people. Think about that.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:38 PM
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socialist Romney care

That depends on how to define socialism.

Interventionism and wefarism aren't socialist by definition, since interventionism is still a market economy -- they're just distortive. [Not defending Romney care though]

edit on 11-8-2011 by Rockdisjoint because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:41 PM
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So I guess they should have the right to vote?

What a disaster Romney is. The Right hates him. The Left hates him. And the middle is not very fond of him. He will get nominated only if the GOPers hang on tool long and split the vote. And then he gets slaughtered in the General.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
yeah yeah did watch the whole exhange did we?

the so called "hecklers" was a plant by liberals who were trying to bait romney they were from some crap called a "liberal think tank"

before anyone comments and romney did say he would close corporation tax loopholes.

i have watched that exchange about 5 times now pretty easy to post any video from youtube and twist it to suit your own agendas.

meh.

and corporations are made up of people middle class people who work for a living go ahead keep demonizing them and putting all those "good little middle class folks" out of work.


edit on 11-8-2011 by neo96 because: bad typing day sue me


Corporations may be made up of middle class people but they are neither ran nor owned by middle class people. And if he really sees corporations as people then there will be no closing of loopholes. Because that would be raising taxes and isn't that something the GOP is against?



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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the so called "hecklers" was a plant by liberals who were trying to bait romney they were from some crap called a "liberal think tank"

After you blame this on liberals, you say that it's easy to twist videos..I assumed you were saying liberals are the ones twisting the video to fit their agenda...
When, in fact, Fox News, the news site that gets the most visits by conservatives, was the site that twisted this video to fit their agenda first.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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i am not having this conversation if you people want to act like a bunch of fascist communist socialists

feel free i will have no part of it.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776

Originally posted by JennaDarling

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
My main issue with corporations being "people" is that they cannot be held criminally liable. Corporations cannot go to jail or face the death penalty.


Officers of corporations can go to jail.

What is your fascination with the death penalty? The mind boggles. Is it just pure vengence or hatred or wanton murder?

When a corporation poisons a towns water supply, or the land, or the air and kills or maims hundreds or thousands of people do you really think a fine is adequate punishment?


Corporations sole reason to exist is profit, they won't make that much of a profit if they went around killing all their customers would they? I think that alone is enough of a valid reason to see why they usually try to avoid such things.

Most organizations care very deeply for the reputation they have, and will do anything they can to build it up as well.

Edit: A few shady business men hardly means we're all akin to that, that's like saying all dolphins are asses because this one time I saw one kill a seal.

edit on 11-8-2011 by Gakus because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Charging a corporation, however, does not mean that individual directors, officers, employees, or shareholders should not also be charged. Prosecution of a corporation is not a substitute for the prosecution of criminally culpable individuals within or without the corporation. Because a corporation can act only through individuals, imposition of individual criminal liability may provide the strongest deterrent against future corporate wrongdoing. Only rarely should provable individual culpability not be pursued, even in the face of offers of corporate guilty pleas.

Corporations are "legal persons," capable of suing and being sued, and capable of committing crimes. Under the doctrine of respondeat superior, a corporation may be held criminally liable for the illegal acts of its directors, officers, employees, and agents. To hold a corporation liable for these actions, the government must establish that the corporate agent's actions (i) were within the scope of his duties and (ii) were intended, at least in part, to benefit the corporation. In all cases involving wrongdoing by corporate agents, prosecutors should consider the corporation, as well as the responsible individuals, as potential criminal targets


Federal Prosecution of Business

A corporation is an entity, but it's not tangible in the sense that it's a real live human being. It's made up of individuals.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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who was there? who are the only people who have any problems with romney?

and who picks up and cheerleaders every change they get?

liberals started this and ran with it typical blaming conservatives here when they didnt.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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i am not having this conversation if you people want to act like a bunch of fascist communist socialists

feel free i will have no part of it.


Another republican resorting to name calling when they have no counter argument...surprise, surprise.



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