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The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit on Monday refused to dismiss a lawsuit against former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld for creating policies that caused American civilians to be tortured by the U.S. military in Iraq.
In a 2 to 1 decision, the court ruled that the lawsuit filed by Donald Vance and Nathan Ertel, two American citizens who were allegedly tortured at a U.S. military prison in Iraq in 2006, provided adequate evidence that Rumsfeld was personally responsible for their treatment and that Rumsfeld was not entitled to qualified immunity.
"If the plaintiffs’ allegations are true, two young American civilians were trying to do the right thing by becoming whistleblowers to the U.S. government, but found themselves detained in prison and tortured by their own government, without notice to their families and with no sign of when the harsh physical and psychological abuse would end," they wrote their decision.
In the middle of the night, they were arrested, handcuffed, blindfolded and transferred to Camp Prosperity, where they claim to have been held in solitary confinement for two days and threatened with "excessive force."
Vance and Ertel were then transferred to Camp Cropper, where they were allegedly psychologically and physically tortured for the duration of their imprisonment.
They were both kept in solitary confinement. Their cells were kept intolerably cold and the lights were never turned off. Both men slept on a concrete slab. Guards would wake them if they were ever caught sleeping and blast heavy metal music into their cells at "intolerably-loud volumes." The two men were also allegedly slammed into concrete walls while blindfolded.
In the middle of the night, they were arrested, handcuffed, blindfolded and transferred to Camp Prosperity...
The former Bush and current Obama administration have tried to have the case dismissed.
In this case, originally filed in 2008, Judge Gwin considered a similar argument from the Obama administration: that a former official cannot be sued for their actions in any official capacity.
Originally posted by kwakakev
So there is still some hope left in the system, interesting...
will this just disapear? I know they can make people 'disapear' as well.
Originally posted by mike dangerously
Rumsfeld's lawyers are gonna try everything to get the appeals court to drop this.If this gets anywhere then the DOJ will step in.
Originally posted by remieB
Torture is any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in, or incidental to, lawful sanctions.
A judge has decided to permit a case filed by an Army veteran who was detained and tortured by the United States Army in Iraq. The lawsuit personally targets former defense secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. Judge allows Rumsfeld torture lawsuit to proceed. It is right to continue the lawsuit as Rumsfeld held personally responsible. He must be punished for his acts and must learn his lessons.
Originally posted by confreak
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
You all know that this will not go anywhere, but I admire your optimism. This is just a show, to make the people of America trust the system again, the system which has miserably failed.
Put your bets now, this will go nowhere, just a show, a circus show.
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
If you were to look into the face of pure evil, this is what you would see:
That is quite evil, but check this out: