China's Debt Problem Worse than Portugal

The Topic is China got caught lieing about their finances - Anything to add on that topc? If you dont thats fine, but instead of derailing this thread please make a seperate one that discusses the US and its debt issue.

most nations do lie so ? but the way fed reserve is hiding debts via derivatives,creative accounting and god knows what other hocus pocus ,I wonder how long will the sheep in usa continue sleeping

Also your hero on that site doesnt use Government standards. Instead he uses his own and bases it off reporting stat method used during the great depression. During that time CPI were different, as was standard of living and income, based on the economy setup at the time in addition using stats that "he" think s should be used. Aside from obfuscation I am not sure why you 2 feel the need to continually insert the US into the topic. Are you both incapable of holding a conversation without trying to derail it into another Anti American rant? We have plenty of those threads around, so feel free to go run up your flag count there.

anti-american ? I am a patriot not anti-american .But I am against the corporatism ,fascism and militarism you so brazenly support neo-con.This is the disease that destroyed our great nation and has turned it into a genocidal monster.

. Instead he uses his own and bases it off reporting stat method used during the great depression

used till the 80's.

Also your hero on that site doesnt use Government standards

current govt standards are bogus.So like how is USA the land of free and home of the brave.
USA today is land of the fee and home of the slave.China is the only home of slave on the other hand

Originally posted by Xcathdra
You 2, once again, miss the point. No one is disputing that the USA has a debt issue. The focus of this thread is on china

EXACTLY.

We all know about the US's issues. It's in the media practically every hour 24/7. This thread is about China's issues. BUT, Apparently some would rather carry on with their obvious AGENDA and avoid the topic all together and talk about the US. Which is fine.

There are plenty of threads on that topic.

How about this.

Write their own thread on the US and have at it.

reply to post by SLAYER69


funny thing is that the world's largest debtor is trying to lecture the world's largest creditor. that's what i am finding funny .

pointing fingers at others will not help.China is the next superpower and USA will be cleaning # of the floor.
Soon,americans will be janitors in China,while american mail order brides marry chinese men ,provided they don't eat Mcblimp burgers and are like blimps.

Originally posted by USAisdevil

China is the next superpower and USA will be cleaning # of the floor.
Soon,americans will be janitors in China,while american mail order brides marry chinese men ,provided they don't eat Mcblimp burgers and are like blimps.

I'll just let what you've posted just kind of sit there and fester while letting others decide for themselves how they feel about the quality of your contribution to the discussion.

reply to post by SLAYER69


fact is fact.I stated the obvious.Is it deniable that China is the next superpower and USA is becoming like Mexico,a third world hellhole and banana republic..

reply to post by USAisdevil


Uhm.. riiight....

You dont see the correlation between your argument and anti american agenda and Chinas actions?

We know the Us debt is an issue, and has long term national security intrests involved. You and the others are so quick to go after the Us for its fiscal policies and situations, yet you guys are to arrogant to realize that China, who you hold on high, is going down the EXACT same road as the US is.

So its bad when the US does it, yet you support China when they do it?

As has been stated before, you and the others are more than welcome to start a new thread dealing with your anti US hate rants. This thread is for China and its actions, so please move your side story to its own thread.

Thanks.

Originally posted by USAisdevil
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fact is fact.I stated the obvious.Is it deniable that China is the next superpower and USA is becoming like Mexico,a third world hellhole and banana republic..

How old are you USAisdevil?

How is it obvious?

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

And Americas Debt Problem Worse than China, so there is no difference there. Every country has there own debt problems even canada.

Agreed.Many posters here refuse to see the obvious .I saw whats coming to usa in 2001 and hence I left.I made a good decision today and am much better off than 2001.

If I had to take a WAG, you definitely sound like a IT professional who left when the going got tough. You probably were not a US Citizen or you were a permanent resident or a contract professional from overseas on short/long term Work Visa. Once again, its a WAG. If you were a US Citizen (Naturalized or by birth in US) and you bailed out, then I wont even bother commenting on your action despite you feel/claim you're a PATRIOT There is a contradiction here

Given that layout of Supply Chain takes forever but thats by design to use the budget every year and to justify the Government Sector (Civilians & Contractors). During the actual event, the Military steps in when the Government cannot handle the supply chain layout. Lets not even get into how the Military will handle things or it has during dire strait disasters and major crisis situations that the Government couldn't handle. There has been significant investment made in the infrastructure and the SYSTEM (money, personnel and technology) itself since the last major world wars in the US that would blow your mind away. Ever heard of BLACK BUDGET for the DOD? Nothing is disclosed. The books are cooked up partially (YES including debt and losses)to cover the BLACK BUDGET.

Outsourcing is transient (BPO for now) political process before the Tax Laws are revived in US. There is also a reverse outsourcing occurring with China and several other countries from India. There are other players in the outsourcing business too. If the plug is pulled on the outsourcing industry, it will definitely have its own affects on the economy that relies upon.

This thread is intended to focus on China's debt problem in comparison to Portugal. Now we all can be better off by comparing every single nation on this thread but thats like saying that 'even ludwigvonmises003 can do better in life'.

reply to post by hp1229


with massive debt and ever shrinking GDP....

how old are you? and where do you get your news from ? worldnutdaily?newsmax?faux news?cnbc?

reply to post by hp1229


instead of criticizing and insulting others,read their contributions.

but i guess you america the best country chestbeater.

and yes ,black budget is not main reason for deficit.corruption,decayed system ,lack of transparency and accountability is the reason why USA is in such bad economic state.

bon voyage to the third world.

Originally posted by USAisdevil
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with massive debt and ever shrinking GDP....
how old are you? and where do you get your news from ? worldnutdaily?newsmax?faux news?cnbc?

Nevermind.

No point in explaining.

Originally posted by USAisdevil
reply to post by hp1229

 

instead of criticizing and insulting others,read their contributions.

but i guess you america the best country chestbeater.
and yes ,black budget is not main reason for deficit.corruption,decayed system ,lack of transparency and accountability is the reason why USA is in such bad economic state.
bon voyage to the third world.

If you think that was an insult then I must be doing good as I havn't even started yet
Talk about hypocrits.

you america the best country chestbeater.

Reminds me of China Town

Did you even fully read my response as in which context BLACK BUDGET was being used to explain/clarify the point that was made?

corruption,decayed system ,lack of transparency and accountability

If you know all about the Debt Problem then enlighten us instead of trying to be a moderator. The above factors
that you mentioned are pretty much common in every country. Politics 101.

Originally posted by USAisdevil

I just read through your posts. Definitely seem like a TROLL.

reply to post by hp1229


You make all kinds of accusations,huh?I left America because of the creeping fascism which has totally engulfed this nation.Secondly,I do not work in the IT industry.Third,thanks to militaristic bunch like you we are in deep crisis and a crossroads of communism or fascism.

As for the deficits ,its not the military black budget that draining our economy.Its the massive corruption,manipulation of financial markets and CIA revolutions and drug trade combined with high oil prices and insane speculation that's bankrupting us.

AS for debt issues of USA,please check my posts.

Given that layout of Supply Chain takes forever but thats by design to use the budget every year and to justify the Government Sector (Civilians & Contractors). During the actual event, the Military steps in when the Government cannot handle the supply chain layout. Lets not even get into how the Military will handle things or it has during dire strait disasters and major crisis situations that the Government couldn't handle. There has been significant investment made in the infrastructure and the SYSTEM (money, personnel and technology) itself since the last major world wars in the US that would blow your mind away. Ever heard of BLACK BUDGET for the DOD? Nothing is disclosed. The books are cooked up partially (YES including debt and losses)to cover the BLACK BUDGET.

where's the evidence of your supply chain in black budget? stop posting nonsense or provide proof ACCORDINGLY

reply to post by ludwigvonmises003


All BS Mr So called Patriot (a true patriot does not abandon his/her country during bad times).

No point in explaining.

reply to post by hp1229


I can see you have no understanding ...typical american education designed to make people stupid.

If you know all about the Debt Problem then enlighten us instead of trying to be a moderator. The above factors that you mentioned are pretty much common in every country. Politics 101.

check ludwig's posts on this thread and yor nation is the worst of all. a nuclear armed third world nation.

Did you even fully read my response as in which context BLACK BUDGET was being used to explain/clarify the point that was made

blacck budget...
talk about corrupt budget.

reply to post by hp1229


and who are you to call to dictate ? NSA?CIA?FBI?

you seem like a automated user rather than human..........................................................................

Originally posted by USAisdevil
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Duplicate Post.

Originally posted by USAisdevil
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As posted before.
You are nothing more than a Troll. No point in discussing.