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posted on Apr, 4 2003 @ 09:12 PM
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I'm loving that quote in your signature Xaos




posted on Apr, 5 2003 @ 05:33 AM
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Yeah, I really like it. My history teacher showed it to us yesterday. He really likes quotes. I think its really intresting that this 250 year old quote corresponds perfectly to America right now. I like your malcom x quotes too. They really are thought provoking.

XAOS



posted on Apr, 9 2003 @ 10:30 PM
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after a week of lalo, i'mm back the suits have left me alone now, and i'm uhh going to be back on more often. i've got to be more careful lol. good thing i'm childish. anyway, to effectively get the ppl's support, education is going to be used. in most guerilla rebellions, the rebels terrorize the people and scare them into support. if we are, however kind to the people and help them with their things in exchange for food and shelter, while at the same time educating them on our struggle, it will have a greater outcome.

militia, join or die



posted on Apr, 9 2003 @ 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by KKing123
before any fight were to happen we'd have to initiate a major propoganda war to win the hearts and minds of the American people, without that, anything is doomed to failure



So true, propaganda is probably the most effective way to gain and also hinder support. I have limited means of engageing a radio transmission that would reach very far, but isn't it possible to relay amongst each other if some of us can establish a radio program?



posted on Apr, 9 2003 @ 11:52 PM
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we'd have to be careful with any kind of radio propoganda, it can be easily triangulated



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 01:54 AM
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Not always true. Relay beacons or towers transmitting the same freq., can be spread about overlapping the homebase transmitter. Thats why I suggested relays. With enough supporters no govy suit dick, will even have the brass to challenge the masses. Never forget;

We the people.



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 04:15 PM
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use smoke signals. j/k

instead of relying on radio signals broadcast over an open area where transmissions could be intercepted, we'd need a network of comm that would be hard tap, not to mention find the source of. cell phones would work well for the beggining, not to mention the fact that'd we'll keep our messages short and sweet not long detailed examples. also, we'd need a homebase, right now we haven't a homebase. soon, once we have formulated a plan, we can build a homebase. liberation is coming.



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 07:17 PM
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a single home base is no good, we'd need a system of safe houses and bases and such all around the country



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 07:43 PM
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Or we could take over existing bases (Area-51
) and operate from there.



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 08:14 PM
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a network would be best, an underground web of resistance cells. it'd have to be set up in a manner where if one was exposed none of the others would fall in a chain reaction. follow this.

three cells, a, b, and c. the members of cell a and b are subordinate to cell c. cell c, is subordinate to another series of cells, which is then connected to the 'inner circle' or the leadership. but each of the cells would have the ability to carry out it's own recruitment, funding, and operation abilities. it would however, be given objectives from a higher up source. but only one person from each cell would know about the exsistance of any other cells. say a cell is a five man team. they would belive they are their own inner circle, but the leader so to speak, would recieve orders or whatnot from a higher up chain of command, and utilise his cell to carry out the objectives.

or, a system in which there is a local, regional, and national presence felt. such as this.

local command. this would be an underground that operates in a town or city. it would be subordinate to regional command. the local command would control operations in funding, recruitment, and operations in a city or set of towns, along with status reports that go directly to the national command.

regional command would be more or less an advisory type organisation, however, it would oversee the politicol and visible aspects of our movements, in using funds made by local units to display ideals represented by our cause to place a leader that is part of militia, in a state office such as govenor or senator or congressman. these regional commands would be setup in all 50 states. they would also turn into unit commands in a time of war. this unit oversees all operations in terms or organisation of local units and looking for candidates in fields such as science and mathematics and stuff like that. pretty much find those who haven't yet given up on fighting back and are still able to see they can change things.

national command. pretty much the main force behind organising everything, such as major moves by Militia, spreading the word about our cause in the forms of marches, television, and other things. syndicated news maybe. it'd also be effiecient for us to have a business, such as casinos or technology or hotels or stuff like that, a foundation so to speak. but these agencies would all dissappear when our objectives have been met, because the government would be reworked into a new way. we would isolate ourselves from the rest of the world as well, to be free of their corruption.



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 08:20 PM
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www.hecklerkoch-usa.com...

[Edited on 11-4-2003 by Tetsuo-51]



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 08:25 PM
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Look under civilian.



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 08:34 PM
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i saw a show with that thing on there on the history channel or discovery channel or something. anytime i'm surfin tv and see something firing i check it out, that thing has a wicked clip, it's like two of them stacked together, instead of pulling out another one, just switch sides. and it's supposed to be lighter. the SL8-1 that is.



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 08:59 PM
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The SL8-1 is the Militias new weapon of choice


[Edited on 11-4-2003 by Tetsuo-51]



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 09:03 PM
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i need a job. i WANT a job. hmmm. dunkin donuts is hiring. sounds good.

hell ya! sl8's as a main arm, and a glock 22 as a sidearm. or rather something that could be silenced. but the largest question standing against us now is, will militia be a political movement, or a resistance movement. it could be both, but to to make the illusion of seperation between the two. what shall we do.



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 09:09 PM
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Both. One will deal with politics, on will be a resistance movement. The two will be part of the same faction, will exchange info, help each other out when needed. I think that everyone should be trained in combat, even those involved with the political aspect, just incase the resistance people get into trouble we will have reinforcements.

I just have a few questions:

1) Supplies. What if our money is all spent?
2) If this civil war were to happen, could it be the start of the NWO?

Okay, so the second one was stupid.



posted on Apr, 10 2003 @ 11:34 PM
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I dont know about the militia, i dont know if any of you are actually in one but what i've gathered is that they are trained more along traditional military lines rather than guerilla warfare and the like. We would need a more viet-cong/terrorist (yeah i said it) force, except without the actual terror part (against civilians i mean)

I think we'd have to form our own group, it would be nice if we could get the various militia's united, but some of them are pretty extreme, racist, extreme religious, nazi



posted on Apr, 11 2003 @ 01:50 AM
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Come up north for awhile guys. Funding isn't a problem, as we have more stuff stockpiled than needed. Yes militias are more like standard infantry type soldiers, but thats how they were intended. Don't forget however that groups do consist of "Former" Military and Police including but not limited to Special Reaction Teams. Or SRTs, these people spend just as much time training on the job as they do off.

As for the broadcasting, we may need to get in contact with other groups, even other militias as that may be best. I have already spread the word about starting a radio station and have associates in broadcasting.

We keep this a peaceful assebly, and there will be nothing the government can do to us. Nothing needs to be said about the last resort use of force, keep it simple and no bad propaganda about us will start.

Remember this always:
If we are ready to violate the Constitution, will the people submit to our unauthorized acts? Sir, they ought not to submit; they would deserve the chains that our measures are forging for them, if they did not resist.
Edward Livingston

www.constitution.org...

[Edited on 11-4-2003 by ADVISOR]



posted on Apr, 11 2003 @ 06:54 PM
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in order to be effective, we will have to be able to adapt to the new styles of combat. that means armor. not a kevlar jacket, i'm talkin tanks and stuff. not to mention, our largest force would have to be the air force, that is no doubt the strongest finger of the US gov't military fist. the ability to strike and run, all while about a mile over your enemies head is indeed a task, not to mention if we didn't have an AF type force, we'd be demolished groundwise. either that or we get a tighter Anticraft defence.

now i don't know much about business, but here is what i propose. a foundation that is made up of a coalition of small and medium sized business, that eventually gets higher up as our political and public influence increases. at first militia would seem the security team for the businesses and the party leaders. however, soon it'd be spread into a bit of everything. here is a top o the head list of possible businesses.

1. one that would be both technologically and consumer efficient, hydrocell technology. right now it's too boggled down in money, if we're able to find people not looking to be paid but rather discover for their ownselves, it'd be that much easier to obtain the material needed to accomplish our tasks. no doubt, soon oil will be replaced by this, it will increase our public prestige to be known as those who made the us nondependant on foriegn oil, an important step to the coming golden age where we let the rest of the world figure itself out, and we can get off their backs and get our own problems figured out for a while.



posted on Apr, 11 2003 @ 07:55 PM
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In all truthfulness, I have very little doubt that the US army would and will obliterate any ground force. But as you mentioned, the air is where we can reign supreme. Let me touch on a few key ideas:

1) The government cant bomb its own country, especially if we hide in public areas. The civilian casualties caused by the government using airstrikes and such would be astronomical.

2) We have the element of suprise. They dont know who is with the militia and who isnt. Therefore, the governments paranoia would consume them and the government could actually destroy themselves internally.

3) There will be no propaganda "war". They will have nothing on us. And if the government causes civilian casualties, its a wrap for them.



[Edited on 12-4-2003 by Tetsuo-51]




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