The Perfect Timing of Anders Behring Breivik

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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 04:23 AM
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Let’s get one thing straight… whether Anders Behring Breivik is an Agent Provocateur or a genuine, independent crazy, he has done the Establishment’s bidding perfectly. The media storm surrounding this is precisely what the Globalist tyrants wanted and needed at this stage in the game and they are milking it dry. Is it a coincidence that they got everything they needed at this precise moment? A white Christian conservative right-winger who opposes Cultural Marxism and Islam, uses guns and has an organic farm. It’s beyond convenient that’s for sure, but it's not necessary to see a conspiracy to see a conspiracy, if you see what I mean.

The so-called ‘Right’ are on the rise all throughout Europe and America. This is the result of decades of extreme Liberalism and a shut-down of all debate, balance and democracy. Let me give one example: The English Defence League of England have held dozens of protests over the last two years against radical Islamism. Their popularity has grown exponentially despite all mainstream media efforts to ‘Nazi-fy’ them. Conveniently, Breivik claims correspondence with the EDL in his writings. This has been shown to be false (here), yet the media are of course making the most of this in an effort to slander the EDL beyond all credibility.

Again, without even needing to claim that this attack was a false-flag inside job of any sort, or that any conspiracy lies behind it, we are already seeing the mainstream media using it to vilify the following:

• Gun owners
• Fundamentalist Christians
• ‘Right-wing’, conservative and nationalist views
• Opponents of Cultural Marxism

And I believe there will be subtle, societal suspicion of the following – though the media may or may not focus on the following:

• Freemasonry
• Organic farming (apparently Breivik had an organic farm)
• People who refer to George Orwell, or ‘Orwellian’ policies (Breivik had ‘Orwell’ listed as interests on his Facebook page)

In short, Breivik – violent and extremist tendencies aside – symbolizes a vast swathe of ordinary Westerners who peacefully oppose open-borders, multiculturalism, the erosion of their Christian heritage (and I say this as a non-Christian myself by the way), gun control, intensive farming, totalitarianism, Political Correctness (aka Cultural Marxism). These are the people who stand between the Globalists and their post-democratic New World Order; And whether complicit or not, Breivik has just given the Globalist media the ammunition to kill several very troublesome birds with one almighty stone.

I'm not asking you to identify any conspiracy in this; All I ask is that you don't turn your back on fighting tyranny for fear of being likened to Breivik. We who oppose Cultural Marxism, totalitarianism, gun control, fundamentalism and the erosion of national borders are NOTHING like Breivik. We are the ANTIDOTE to the Breiviks of this world because we want a system that listens to us instead of pushing weak minds towards violence. And we most certainly send our thoughts and sympathies out to all those poor souls wrongly murdered by this sick being, and their families.




posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 04:37 AM
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Originally posted by Cythraul

The so-called ‘Right’ are on the rise all throughout Europe and America. This is the result of decades of extreme Liberalism and a shut-down of all debate, balance and democracy.


Where is your evidence for this?

Chances are Anders has frequented ATS considering his views which tie in with many far-right supporters you see here. How many are secretly applauding his efforts? I see no reason to think there's a grand conspiracy behind this lunatic and his actions.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 04:48 AM
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Some sources have mentioned his involvement with the Oslo Freemason group, but it hasn't really been biased. The Head Mason just said that the killer has been expelled from the Oslo Freemason lodge as what he has done goes against the Freemason's ideologies.


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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by Goathief
Where is your evidence for this?

Er, the emergence of anti-Islamist groups in Europe and the successes of 'right-wing' and conservative parties in Europe of late. Google it when you get a minute.


Originally posted by Goathief
How many are secretly applauding his efforts?

NONE! And I think it's pretty sick and childish of you to suggest as much. You're doing exactly what I warned about - tarring so-called 'right-wingers' with the same brush as breivik.


Originally posted by Goathief
I see no reason to think there's a grand conspiracy behind this lunatic and his actions.

So it turns out you didn't read my post. If you did, you'd see I said exactly that - there's no reason to see a conspiracy behind Breivik's actions. I merely insinuated that there maybe a conspiracy (emerging) in the way that the media is promoting the story and to what ends.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:07 AM
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I have to admit that the timing is incredibly!!!!...

Although this sad and tragic event works in favour of the establishment it also works in favour of the extremists as it crystallises everyone who leans that way into one group..

You can see the same tactic used elsewhere, create an issue that vilifies the whole group (be it religious or otherwise) and then let the vilification process pull in the moderates who would otherwise not get involved.*8shakes head*

Actually this event confirms to my mind that we are closer to the pre-ww2 landscape (economic, military and social) than ever before...

A very sad day for humanity..


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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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I think you are being naive if you dont think some are secretly applauding this guys actions. I have seen posts on ATS, that actually supported the actions of killing Commies.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:26 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
I think you are being naive if you dont think some are secretly applauding this guys actions. I have seen posts on ATS, that actually supported the actions of killing Commies.


While that certainly is the case as it is in all these situations.. the situation now is far to reminiscent of pre-ww2 social extremes for my liking.. your comment on commies highlights that to me..

This event (for me) signals the emergence of force in opposing the extremes that are already prevalent in our society (extremes created by the WoT) ..

While we where predominantly left or right of middle, the last 10 years has seen a shift to the extremes.. and to be honest it really does worry me as it does not bode well for the future.

But I have to wonder if this divide (then and now) is manufactured or natural.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:33 AM
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Good points thoughtsfull.


Here's an article, from a mainstream newspaper, which pretty much echoes the sentiment in my original post:


Anders Breivik’s murderous rampage is being used by liberals to guilt conservatives by association. Not only is this disingenuous, but it runs the risk of validating this man’s view of himself as a political terrorist....

The Telegraph - Whatever liberal commentators say, the Tea Party does not bear responsibility for Anders Breivik


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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:42 AM
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A phone call is made...

"We need a distraction"

.....

"Oslo"



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:44 AM
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You forgot to add:
Where did he learn to make bombs? - the internet, of course!
How did he purchase his guns? - legally, of course!

The guy was no christian. He admitted to hiring 2 high class (model) hookers as he called them.
Reminds me of Mohammed Atta.

Want to bet they also find he was a member of - wait for it - you don't mean? - wait - ANONYMOUS?!
Look closely at his "pictures" they were all photoshopped. His rifle even has a rubber bayonet on it.


Why not attack Muslims instead of children (you know, the supposed enemies)?
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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:47 AM
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I find it really sad that I feel the establishment and media will embark on a vilification process that lumps everyone together and by default will create yet another monster for the world to deal with
as if we didn't have enough to deal with as it is


But I stand by my notion that if we continue like this it will bring about another great war.. and my question if this is a manufactured or natural development.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 06:00 AM
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There are many things about this that do not make sense.. he obviously wanted to be caught, the death, destruction and mayhem seem only now a part of the plan.. the day in court another part and I'm guessing his symbolism in prison or? another part.

There is so much more to this than meets the eye..



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
You forgot to add:
Where did he learn to make bombs? - the internet, of course!
How did he purchase his guns? - legally, of course!

EXCELLENT point. I didn't even think of how this could lead to restrictions on internet forums and the surveillance of 'dangerous' info.


Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Look closely at his "pictures" they were all photoshopped. His rifle even has a rubber bayonet on it.

Check out my thread (link in my signature): "Portrait of a Norwegian Killer".


Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Why not attack Muslims instead of children (you know, the supposed enemies)?

Exactly! It doesn't make sense for a nationalist to attack his fellow kinsmen. Of course, it doesn't make sense for a true nationalist to attack ANY innocent people - whatever their colour or origin. But again, it's convenient as it reminds the masses that they should fear people from their own ethnic group just as much as anyone else. It is the further promotion of FEAR.

If Breivik is a legitimate lone crackpot, he's done far more harm to his own cause than good. And from what I know about him and his writings, he should have been smart enough to know that.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by Cythraul

Er, the emergence of anti-Islamist groups in Europe and the successes of 'right-wing' and conservative parties in Europe of late. Google it when you get a minute.

So the emergence of far-right groups imply that Europe has been under extreme left governance for decades? I don't think so. Provide evidence for your claims.



NONE! And I think it's pretty sick and childish of you to suggest as much. You're doing exactly what I warned about - tarring so-called 'right-wingers' with the same brush as breivik.

No, I am not being childish and just throwing it out there out of some misguided sense of spite... it's being aware of how people truly are. You must be very inexperienced to think that nobody agrees with Anders, especially here on ATS. Do you really want me to go round and get some quotes?


I merely insinuated that there maybe a conspiracy (emerging) in the way that the media is promoting the story and to what ends.

The media were ALL OVER Muslims when the story first broke, the finger was well and truly pointed in their direction until more details emerged later in the day. Now that should tell you something important.

Let's move away from that for a minute and address a problem I think you have. You need to make a distinction between right-leaning politics and the far-right. They are not the same thing at all. Just as left-leaning politics is not the same as the far-left or some kind of liberal extremism that allegedly exists. Stop thinking in black and white. On that note, off you go to provide some evidence for your claims otherwise this is nothing more than a bigoted rant, to be honest.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by Goathief
So the emergence of far-right groups imply that Europe has been under extreme left governance for decades? I don't think so. Provide evidence for your claims.

Okay, I thought you were asking for proof of the rise in ‘right-wing’ politics. Though I refute the left-right paradigm, I’m using ‘left’ and ‘right’ here as it’s what people understand, and they are the labels the media use. To me, extreme left-wing ideals are essentially Marxism. Marxism’s ultimate goal is the creation of a single, global, socialist society; the abolition of religion and the replacement of traditional values. The European Union is a major early step in this process and was created several decades ago. Mass-migration is another step and has became a significant phenomenon in the last few decades. Atheism as a movement has emerged in the last few decades. Cultural Marxism and the societal changes it causes have become apparent in the last few decades (you can look that one up is it’s too much for this thread).


Originally posted by Goathief
You must be very inexperienced to think that nobody agrees with Anders, especially here on ATS. Do you really want me to go round and get some quotes?

Perhaps I am a little naïve. I’d be privileged if you’d show me some examples. It’s hard to believe that truth-seekers would endorse the killing of innocents.


Originally posted by Goathief
The media were ALL OVER Muslims when the story first broke, the finger was well and truly pointed in their direction until more details emerged later in the day. Now that should tell you something important.

That I can explain. Imagine how foolish people would feel if they instantly assumed (or were helped to assume) that this was an act of Islamic Terrorism, only to then be told it was actually an anti-Islamic ‘Nazi’. Boy would our faces be red. We’d probably react even more strongly against all of the beliefs Breivik supposedly holds in order to exonerate ourselves from the shame of wrongly blaming Muslims. The reminder, to us, that Radical Muslims are no more dangerous than normal white, Christian Europeans would have all the more impact for this quick turn of events.

Furthermore, what’s your point? The Globalist Media Establishment DOES wish to demonise Muslims in the same way it now wishes to demonise patriots and conservatives. I’ve stated repeatedly in other threads, some of my own, that the new agenda is to foster tension between Muslims and the West. They don’t care about either side. Now is the time to demonise average patriotic Europeans, it would seem. Thank you Breivik – you scumbag!


Originally posted by Goathief
Let's move away from that for a minute and address a problem I think you have. You need to make a distinction between right-leaning politics and the far-right. They are not the same thing at all. Just as left-leaning politics is not the same as the far-left or some kind of liberal extremism that allegedly exists. Stop thinking in black and white.

I agree. I only use terms like ‘left’ and ‘right’ because it’s simple for people to understand, and notice how I almost always put those terms in inverted commas – it’s because I view those words with suspicion. There is no black and white, you’re very much correct.


Originally posted by Goathief
On that note, off you go to provide some evidence for your claims otherwise this is nothing more than a bigoted rant, to be honest.

WHERE exactly is the bigotry in ANYTHING I’ve written in this thread?!



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 07:57 AM
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By the way - has anyone seen any video footage of Breivik yet? I notice the media are urging a blackout of his court appearance because he plans to air his 'right-wing' views.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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He wanted to be caught because he did'nt have the guts to take him and his ego out with it. This terrorist will NEVER have a stage or platform to work his drivel. Whats worse is he will only see the maximum of 21 years but could be released after 7 years.......and someone else will do more time for exterminating him upon his release.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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He wanted to be caught because he did'nt have the guts to take him and his ego out with it. This terrorist will NEVER have a stage or platform to work his drivel. Whats worse is he will only see the maximum of 21 years but could be released after 7 years.......and someone else will do more time for exterminating him upon his release.


I have a sinking feeling that he already has his platform with the media reporting on everything he posted in days running up to this event... especially with this new nonsense that other cells are ready to carry on with the mayhem *shakes head at the sad warped world we live in*


A Norwegian court ruled that Anders Behring Breivik be held in solitary confinement after he boasted that he carried out Friday's massacre to "save Norway" and warned of "two more cells" prepared to carry out further attacks.
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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by thoughtsfull

A Norwegian court ruled that Anders Behring Breivik be held in solitary confinement after he boasted that he carried out Friday's massacre to "save Norway" and warned of "two more cells" prepared to carry out further attacks.
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How convenient.

Another way for him to remain private.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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If true, I am not sure what to make of it all really... can they (the establishment) ignore such threats? and if they are not ignored what will the impact be across Europe? especially when you look at the response to the failed underpants bomber...





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