The Perfect Timing of Anders Behring Breivik, page 1
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Topic started on 25-7-2011 @ 04:23 AM by Cythraul
Let’s get one thing straight… whether Anders Behring Breivik is an Agent Provocateur or a genuine, independent crazy, he has done the Establishment’s bidding perfectly. The media storm surrounding this is precisely what the Globalist tyrants wanted and needed at this stage in the game and they are milking it dry. Is it a coincidence that they got everything they needed at this precise moment? A white Christian conservative right-winger who opposes Cultural Marxism and Islam, uses guns and has an organic farm. It’s beyond convenient that’s for sure, but it's not necessary to see a conspiracy to see a conspiracy, if you see what I mean.

The so-called ‘Right’ are on the rise all throughout Europe and America. This is the result of decades of extreme Liberalism and a shut-down of all debate, balance and democracy. Let me give one example: The English Defence League of England have held dozens of protests over the last two years against radical Islamism. Their popularity has grown exponentially despite all mainstream media efforts to ‘Nazi-fy’ them. Conveniently, Breivik claims correspondence with the EDL in his writings. This has been shown to be false (
here), yet the media are of course making the most of this in an effort to slander the EDL beyond all credibility.

Again, without even needing to claim that this attack was a false-flag inside job of any sort, or that any conspiracy lies behind it, we are already seeing the mainstream media using it to vilify the following:

• Gun owners
• Fundamentalist Christians
• ‘Right-wing’, conservative and nationalist views
• Opponents of Cultural Marxism

And I believe there will be subtle, societal suspicion of the following – though the media may or may not focus on the following:

• Freemasonry
• Organic farming (apparently Breivik had an organic farm)
• People who refer to George Orwell, or ‘Orwellian’ policies (Breivik had ‘Orwell’ listed as interests on his Facebook page)

In short, Breivik – violent and extremist tendencies aside – symbolizes a vast swathe of ordinary Westerners who peacefully oppose open-borders, multiculturalism, the erosion of their Christian heritage (and I say this as a non-Christian myself by the way), gun control, intensive farming, totalitarianism, Political Correctness (aka Cultural Marxism). These are the people who stand between the Globalists and their post-democratic New World Order; And whether complicit or not, Breivik has just given the Globalist media the ammunition to kill several very troublesome birds with one almighty stone.

I'm not asking you to identify any conspiracy in this; All I ask is that you don't turn your back on fighting tyranny for fear of being likened to Breivik. We who oppose Cultural Marxism, totalitarianism, gun control, fundamentalism and the erosion of national borders are NOTHING like Breivik. We are the ANTIDOTE to the Breiviks of this world because we want a system that listens to us instead of pushing weak minds towards violence. And we most certainly send our thoughts and sympathies out to all those poor souls wrongly murdered by this sick being, and their families.


reply posted on 25-7-2011 @ 05:47 AM by thoughtsfull
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I find it really sad that I feel the establishment and media will embark on a vilification process that lumps everyone together and by default will create yet another monster for the world to deal with as if we didn't have enough to deal with as it is

But I stand by my notion that if we continue like this it will bring about another great war.. and my question if this is a manufactured or natural development.


reply posted on 25-7-2011 @ 06:00 AM by thoughtsfull
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There are many things about this that do not make sense.. he obviously wanted to be caught, the death, destruction and mayhem seem only now a part of the plan.. the day in court another part and I'm guessing his symbolism in prison or? another part.

There is so much more to this than meets the eye..



reply posted on 25-7-2011 @ 06:23 AM by Goathief
Originally posted by Cythraul

Er, the emergence of anti-Islamist groups in Europe and the successes of 'right-wing' and conservative parties in Europe of late. Google it when you get a minute.

So the emergence of far-right groups imply that Europe has been under extreme left governance for decades? I don't think so. Provide evidence for your claims.


NONE! And I think it's pretty sick and childish of you to suggest as much. You're doing exactly what I warned about - tarring so-called 'right-wingers' with the same brush as breivik.

No, I am not being childish and just throwing it out there out of some misguided sense of spite... it's being aware of how people truly are. You must be very inexperienced to think that nobody agrees with Anders, especially here on ATS. Do you really want me to go round and get some quotes?

I merely insinuated that there maybe a conspiracy (emerging) in the way that the media is promoting the story and to what ends.

The media were ALL OVER Muslims when the story first broke, the finger was well and truly pointed in their direction until more details emerged later in the day. Now that should tell you something important.

Let's move away from that for a minute and address a problem I think you have. You need to make a distinction between right-leaning politics and the far-right. They are not the same thing at all. Just as left-leaning politics is not the same as the far-left or some kind of liberal extremism that allegedly exists. Stop thinking in black and white. On that note, off you go to provide some evidence for your claims otherwise this is nothing more than a bigoted rant, to be honest.


reply posted on 25-7-2011 @ 06:53 AM by Cythraul
Originally posted by Goathief
So the emergence of far-right groups imply that Europe has been under extreme left governance for decades? I don't think so. Provide evidence for your claims.

Okay, I thought you were asking for proof of the rise in ‘right-wing’ politics. Though I refute the left-right paradigm, I’m using ‘left’ and ‘right’ here as it’s what people understand, and they are the labels the media use. To me, extreme left-wing ideals are essentially Marxism. Marxism’s ultimate goal is the creation of a single, global, socialist society; the abolition of religion and the replacement of traditional values. The European Union is a major early step in this process and was created several decades ago. Mass-migration is another step and has became a significant phenomenon in the last few decades. Atheism as a movement has emerged in the last few decades. Cultural Marxism and the societal changes it causes have become apparent in the last few decades (you can look that one up is it’s too much for this thread).

Originally posted by Goathief
You must be very inexperienced to think that nobody agrees with Anders, especially here on ATS. Do you really want me to go round and get some quotes?

Perhaps I am a little naïve. I’d be privileged if you’d show me some examples. It’s hard to believe that truth-seekers would endorse the killing of innocents.

Originally posted by Goathief
The media were ALL OVER Muslims when the story first broke, the finger was well and truly pointed in their direction until more details emerged later in the day. Now that should tell you something important.

That I can explain. Imagine how foolish people would feel if they instantly assumed (or were helped to assume) that this was an act of Islamic Terrorism, only to then be told it was actually an anti-Islamic ‘Nazi’. Boy would our faces be red. We’d probably react even more strongly against all of the beliefs Breivik supposedly holds in order to exonerate ourselves from the shame of wrongly blaming Muslims. The reminder, to us, that Radical Muslims are no more dangerous than normal white, Christian Europeans would have all the more impact for this quick turn of events.

Furthermore, what’s your point? The Globalist Media Establishment DOES wish to demonise Muslims in the same way it now wishes to demonise patriots and conservatives. I’ve stated repeatedly in other threads, some of my own, that the new agenda is to foster tension between Muslims and the West. They don’t care about either side. Now is the time to demonise average patriotic Europeans, it would seem. Thank you Breivik – you scumbag!

Originally posted by Goathief
Let's move away from that for a minute and address a problem I think you have. You need to make a distinction between right-leaning politics and the far-right. They are not the same thing at all. Just as left-leaning politics is not the same as the far-left or some kind of liberal extremism that allegedly exists. Stop thinking in black and white.

I agree. I only use terms like ‘left’ and ‘right’ because it’s simple for people to understand, and notice how I almost always put those terms in inverted commas – it’s because I view those words with suspicion. There is no black and white, you’re very much correct.

Originally posted by Goathief
On that note, off you go to provide some evidence for your claims otherwise this is nothing more than a bigoted rant, to be honest.

WHERE exactly is the bigotry in ANYTHING I’ve written in this thread?!


reply posted on 25-7-2011 @ 09:47 AM by bluemirage5
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He wanted to be caught because he did'nt have the guts to take him and his ego out with it. This terrorist will NEVER have a stage or platform to work his drivel. Whats worse is he will only see the maximum of 21 years but could be released after 7 years.......and someone else will do more time for exterminating him upon his release.


reply posted on 25-7-2011 @ 10:12 AM by thoughtsfull
Originally posted by bluemirage5
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He wanted to be caught because he did'nt have the guts to take him and his ego out with it. This terrorist will NEVER have a stage or platform to work his drivel. Whats worse is he will only see the maximum of 21 years but could be released after 7 years.......and someone else will do more time for exterminating him upon his release.


I have a sinking feeling that he already has his platform with the media reporting on everything he posted in days running up to this event... especially with this new nonsense that other cells are ready to carry on with the mayhem *shakes head at the sad warped world we live in*

A Norwegian court ruled that Anders Behring Breivik be held in solitary confinement after he boasted that he carried out Friday's massacre to "save Norway" and warned of "two more cells" prepared to carry out further attacks.
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reply posted on 25-7-2011 @ 10:48 AM by thoughtsfull
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If true, I am not sure what to make of it all really... can they (the establishment) ignore such threats? and if they are not ignored what will the impact be across Europe? especially when you look at the response to the failed underpants bomber...
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