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Hague: UK to assess terror defences after Norway (False Flag?)

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 08:10 AM
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This is starting to seem more and more like a false flag, It really does:-

Hague: UK to assess terror defences after Norway


The government is to reassess how it would respond to possible new terror threats to the UK after Friday's attacks in Norway, William Hague says.


I'm sorry, but didn't we already take security measures after 7/7?

Please discuss why you think this is a false flag (or why you don't believe this)

Thanks.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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This will mean letting more muslims in to the UK and then having more CCTV's all over the place and a lot less freedom for the general public.

Our politicians don't need protection from terrorists it's just that they dare not face the public they are suposed to represent and use the msulims as an excuse.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 08:58 AM
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Considering that this was an action taken by a Non Islamic person. than I would consider that this, considering the focus on "home grown terrorist organisations" of late that any review will focus on those internal groups that would be considered a threat to the establishment. i.e. all of us amongst other, patriot groups, freemen, survivalists. basically anyone refusing to tow the MSM line.

Just my 2p worth



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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So who is going to do a review on the hate groups that are conservatives, labour and the libdems?

They hate each other and those that vote for their oponents..

Political assasinations, arresting those that oppose their views, character assasinations etc..

Who watches them?!
edit on 24-7-2011 by CrankyPantsUK because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:35 AM
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Currently the UK is looking at various aspects of the current Terrorism strategies looking at the CONTEST and PREVENT strategies, the publication of the 2011 Intelligence and Security committee and a recent change in the threat level all in this month. So not only is it perhaps good timing to reassess current Counterterrorism measures it is also vital that they do. In the UK the threat has almost always been Irish and Islamic terrorist groups in the past decade I would say that the threat from the political Right Wing has been slowly increasing. With that in mind along with recent events in Norway I would hope that Government is making the appropriate adjustments to the states Counterterrorism apparatus.

This has nothing to do with any kind of “false flag” and everything to do with adapting to the fluid nature of the terrorist threat.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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It's certainly seems to be more intensified by the fact that the UK just recently reduced the UK terror threat level.

People let their guards down and now they've found further reasons to enhance "security" in the name of terrorism:-


The UK terror threat level is being reduced from "severe" to "substantial", the home secretary has announced.
UK terror threat level reduced to 'substantial'
posted on 11 July 2011

7/7 provoked the terrorism alert to "severe" on the 1st of Augest, 2006.

Perhaps, now they have the motivation to step up the "threat level" again.

What's also odd is that like 9/11 and 7/7 - government agencies (or contractors) were carrying out "drills" on or around the same time of the attacks.

These "mock terrorist drills" seem to coincide with every major "terrorist attack" that has brought about “security enhancement”.

7/7


A fictional "scenario" of multiple bomb attacks on London's underground took place at exactly the same time as the bomb attack on July 7, 2005.



Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, described in a BBC interview how he had organized and conducted the anti-terror drill, on behalf of an unnamed business client


9/11


On the morning of September 11 2001, within minutes of the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the CIA had been running "a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building". The simulation was held at the CIA Chantilly Virginia Reconnaissance Office.
The Bush administration described the event as "a bizarre coincidence". The matter was not mentioned by the media.(AP, 22 August 2002)


Here's another thread regarding these mock drills coincidence with the terror attacks in Oslo:-

"Oslo Police Conducted Bombing Exercise Days Before Terrorist Blast - False Flag?"


Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
Currently the UK is looking at various aspects of the current Terrorism strategies looking at the CONTEST and PREVENT strategies, the publication of the 2011 Intelligence and Security committee and a recent change in the threat level all in this month. So not only is it perhaps good timing to reassess current Counterterrorism measures it is also vital that they do. In the UK the threat has almost always been Irish and Islamic terrorist groups in the past decade I would say that the threat from the political Right Wing has been slowly increasing. With that in mind along with recent events in Norway I would hope that Government is making the appropriate adjustments to the states Counterterrorism apparatus.

This has nothing to do with any kind of “false flag” and everything to do with adapting to the fluid nature of the terrorist threat.

edit on 24-7-2011 by ExistentialNightmare because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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If the government didn't plan for these types of attacks and one did happened, Everyone would be saying that the government should have prepared for such circumstances. Should we not plan anymore exersises for fear they may be construed as a false flag?



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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Wow!! Now that is bloody quick!! This only happened on Friday and they already want to reassess the UK's security procedures.

PROBLEM, REACTION, SOLUTION: without any shadow of a doubt!!!!

Two days and the mainstream media has been on a constant caffeine high with this! I reckon there's already more news articles about this than one person could read in a month!
edit on 24-7-2011 by chemistry because: capital letter in the wrong place



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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All I point out is that these drills are remarkably close to the terrorist events themselves.

Take 7/7:-

The probability that a "mock drill" would be occuring at the sites of the each of the bombs is stupendous.

Peter Power (crisis management specialist) even said himself in an interview:-


"at half-past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for, er, over, a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing upright!"


julyseventh.co.uk...
julyseventh.co.uk...

I'm not protesting the drills themselves, only pointing out these remarkable coincidences.
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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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I don't think this is a false flag because:

The shooter had a clear stated ideology in which he has stuck to.

and

He's still alive.
If it were a false flag, he would have shot himself, or been killed by the police.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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It's pretty hard to legislate against someone with the will and the means to conduct acts of terror.

Is this just a means to illustrate that it's not only brown men screaming about Allah that we need to be suspicious of now - it's everyone?



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Is this just a means to illustrate that it's not only brown men screaming about Allah that we need to be suspicious of now - it's everyone?


A very good point.

The BBCs article headlines certainly aid to the hysteria.

"Tranquillity shattered"
"Far right fears"
"Extreme ideology that motivated killer"

It seems, like you said, suggests that we should be afraid of people with extreme political views, on the basis that one psycopath murdered many people.

I think people are going to be more suspicious of homegrown "terrorists" - Which i guess will count against anyone who is against the goverment, or has strong political views (whether to the left or the right)

The boiling frog anology seems to fit well with these gradual security roll-outs.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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London, the most watched city in the world yet it is blown up, ring of steel eh?

So, what do they plan on doing? Making queues longer for searches into shopping malls?

All a bomber team has to do is get a handful of suicider bombers ready..

One blows up the queue, panic and chaos, people scatter.
The other runs in, further deeper into the target... upon hitting an obstruction or confrontation. Boom
Thats 2. More panic and chaos..
A third bomber runs in.. nobody dares contront him, because they know he will go boom, his an obstruction, confrontation, or his target... boom.

Keep repeating in squence until your objective is complete.

No way can you stop it happening.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by JakiusFogg
Considering that this was an action taken by a Non Islamic person. than I would consider that this, considering the focus on "home grown terrorist organisations" of late that any review will focus on those internal groups that would be considered a threat to the establishment. i.e. all of us amongst other, patriot groups, freemen, survivalists. basically anyone refusing to tow the MSM line.

Just my 2p worth


Agreed



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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Something that seems rather odd, is the fact that we keep being told that he'll be making a speach tomorrow in court. We're being told to 'stay tuned' if we want to get an understanding of how this terrorist's mind works. I can't ever recall anything quite like that happening before - they actually seem to be promoting his cause.
edit on 24-7-2011 by Robert Reynolds because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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I completely agree with you, and here are some more points:

1) If he hates Muslims so much, why didn't he attack a mosque?

WHY DIDN'T HE KILL ANY IMMIGRANTS? NOT A SINGLE MUSLIM OR IMMIGRANT WAS HARMED, and yet Muslims reacted like lightning to play the victim, whining and pretending to be "scared" of attacks, and demanding extra police protection for all Muslims and mosques?

If he hates Muslims so much, why did he kill 90 young white Norwegians instead of Muslims?


2) The whole thing was a horrific False Flag event, designed to transfer public fear and blame from the Unholy Muslim/Marxist Allliance to Christians and Patriots like the English Defence League, anyone opposing the New World Order Globalist Mafia, just like his so-called "manifesto". His ludicrous statements about "advice" to the EDL clearly show he is trying to dredge up sympathy for Muslims, who are the ones who ALWAYS cause the violence at every demonstration, NEVER the EDL.

"White Al Queda Narrative Emerging in Norway Terror Attack"
www.infowars.com...

"Evidence Shows Norway Terror Attack a False Flag"
www.prisonplanet.com...


3) Why did it take the police an incredible 90 MINUTES to arrive, when news helicopters were filming overhead long before that? He was given a full 90 minutes to hunt down all those kids and shoot them one by one, some as much as SIX TIMES, as if to spill as much blood as possible. The island and the water were soaked with blood: a kind of ritual sacrifice, some say, to Molech by the attendees at Bohemian Grove, whose ceremonies generate a "vortex of dark energy". Some say.


4) Why was he COMPLETELY UNHARMED by the security forces capturing him? It was as if he KNEW he would not be harmed, as if it was all pre-arranged that he would not be harmed.




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