Muslims are taking over the West!!!

Ok, I have a question for everyone here who is worried about a "Muslim takeover" of the UK and America:

How are you going to stop it? They are not waging wars or invading our countries en mass. They are simply living, having kids and carrying on through life as we all do. So how do we stop it, if you worried about it?

There is only one way. To exterminate them like ferral dogs as the Nazi's allegedly did to the Jews! Is that what end you seek? If so, good luck and have at it. I quite enjoy my Muslim friends and neighbors and I could care less how many of them are around. Life will go on as normal and I will not act like a scared pansy because they are "different".

Damn, sometimes it feels like preschool again! Who's down for fingerpainting?

Hahaha can you not see the irony in this post?

"some nuts that burn a book"

oppsed to

"barbarians"

Every race / religion / creed has it's nutjobs and people prone to peer pressure mentality Christianity is one of the main offenders throughout history.

There are approximately 1.57 billion muslims in the world.. I wonder how many of those "barbarians" have actually murdered, raped and pillaged as you so succinctly imply?

Wake up to the world, question what the media tells you and, as this site states, "Deny Ignorance"

Radicals indeed...what a joke...do your homework and while you are at it, here's something for you to chew on!


(1) Comparing what Christianity "WAS" with what Islam "IS" is irrelevant. The Pope does not condone murder or the rape of Men, Women and children. The Imans DO! (Don't even bother to argue this point. It's a matter of public record!)

(2) The VAST, OVERWHEMING majority of Muslims DO support Sharia Law, and it is THAT law that the aforementioned Imans cite as a basis for their decrees. (Don't believe me? Go take an unbiassed, public poll...anywhere... Many already have. You WONT like the results!)

(3) There are a large number of videos on the web RIGHT NOW that show Muslims carrying out Sharia Law by beheading men, women AND children for BREAKING Sharia Law or because their parents broke Sharia Law.


So quit using posts about Islam to demonstrate your religious bigotry towards Christianity. It really does show you in a bad light...and not just you...but others as well.

reply to post by RealAmericanPatriot

The Pope does not condone murder or the rape of Men, Women and children.

Are you sure about that? We are talking about the Catholic church and they don't have a bad reputation for nothing. The Pope has turned his head for generations regarding child molestation. Bad example!

I dare you to find evidence, other than a radical website or Youtube video that shows Muslims enacting violence as you suggested. Please provide full context and proof that it was ordered by the entire faith, not just one radical baffoon or radical Imam.

All religions have their nutjobs, but to label the entire religion as you did shows that you mostlikely know nothing about them. You already have shown that you don't know what Sharia Law is.

Thanks!

They are taking over the West because they over populate faster than the rest, this shouldn't be tolerated.

I believe it's called Immigration. Your ancestors did it, what makes them perfect compared to modern day immigrants?

Intolerance is so severe here in the West it's sickening and disgraceful to the concept of America.

Immigration is what made America what it is today. America IS an immigrant country. Deal with it.

reply to post by confreak


The founder of Islam was a warlord, burnt people for not praying, executed POWs, enslaved women and children and spread Islam by the sword.

www.historynet.com...

Wow. What could possibly go wrong?

It's not as if Muslims they have tried to kill anyone in the name of Islam. Oh wait...

Since 9/11, in the USA we have had

• Muslim Americans conspiring to destroy the Brooklyn bridge

• A Somali Muslim living in Ohio plotting to blow up a local shopping mall

• A cell of 7 Muslims plotting to blow up the New York stock exchange

• A US Muslim and accomplice plotting to blow up the NY subway,

• Two NY mosque leaders who plotted to blow up an Indian diplomat with a shoulder fired grenade launcher,

• A group of 4 Muslims who plotted to blow up National Guard facilities and synagogues in the LA area,

• 2 Muslims who conspired to blow up the Wyoming natural gas refinery & the Transcontinental Pipeline

• A Muslim flying into Chicago plotting to use a dirty bomb in the USA

• 2 Muslim men plotting to blow up the US Capitol and Word Bank Headquarters

• 7 Muslims arrested for plotting to blow up the Sears tower in Chicago

• 8 Muslims arrested for planning to blow up NY city train tunnels

• A Muslim man who plotted to set off hand grenades in a shopping mall outside Chicago

• 6 Muslims conspiring to attack Fort Dix, New Jersey

• A Muslim who planned to set of a TAPT bomb in the NY subway

• A Muslim who plotted to blow up a Dallas skyscraper, a Muslim who tried to set off a car bomb outside the courthouse in downtown Springfield, Illinois

• 2 Muslims who plotted to murder civilians in US shopping malls

• 4 Muslims plotting to blow up “aviation fuel tanks and pipelines at the John F. Kennedy International Airport” in New York City

• 4 Muslims planning to shoot down planes with stinger missiles.

creepingsharia.wordpress.com...

But as the OP would have it, anyone who says anything against Islam is being irrational.

Originally posted by confreak

You might look cool amongst the bigot population of the West...

So the West is bigoted.

Well, you have shown your colours.

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by RealAmericanPatriot

 

The Pope does not condone murder or the rape of Men, Women and children.

Are you sure about that? We are talking about the Catholic church and they don't have a bad reputation for nothing. The Pope has turned his head for generations regarding child molestation. Bad example!

I dare you to find evidence, other than a radical website or Youtube video that shows Muslims enacting violence as you suggested. Please provide full context and proof that it was ordered by the entire faith, not just one radical baffoon or radical Imam.

All religions have their nutjobs, but to label the entire religion as you did shows that you mostlikely know nothing about them. You already have shown that you don't know what Sharia Law is.

Thanks!

(A) I'm not Catholic, but I used him as a counter symbol to the Imans, but the last time I checked, the Pope did NOT condone beheadings and rape. Your couterpoint is defeated.

(B) Unless you are lacking a search engine, you will find NUMEROUS sites displaying these videos. Many of the sites pro-Islam. I'm not going to waste my time doing your homework.

(C) Most of the videos showed hundreds of people present for the execution. NEVER did ONE SINGLE PERSON raise his hand or voice in objection to the callous beheadings or stonings! NOT ONE!

(D) It is not I who has displayed ignorance of Sharia law today. And..again...if you do not think that the majority of Muslims worldwide support Sharia Law, then you are ignorant of the truth. Educate yourself. Go take a poll if you dont trust all the existing polls. But, as they say, ignorance is bliss. (ie. better to have a false sense of safety than to know the truth) BETTER YET: Go stand outside of a mosque and ask all who exit if they support Sharia Law worldwide!

(E) Again, I've done MY homework. You do your own. Surely you have a reasonably decent search engine. Of course you do...maybe you just have no stomach for the truth, hmm?

Originally posted by confreak
As I mention before, people are not ashamed of bigotry any more...

The PM of the UK, the President of France and the Chancellor of Germany all said that Multi-culturalism is dead.

Didn't you get the memo?

reply to post by ollncasino


Well said Ollncasino! It is refreshing to read posts by people who declare truth rather than philosophical platitudes!

reply to post by confreak


We've lived with the threat of Christian sharia law for quite a while but they don't seem to be able to force their lifestyles on the rest of us so why would it be any different with Muslim sharia law?

reply to post by ollncasino



"The founder of Islam was a warlord, burnt people for not praying, executed POWs, enslaved women and children and spread Islam by the sword."


You have no idea of what you're talking about...

reply to post by ollncasino


So you believe Muslims are taking over the West because ...

I'm quiet confused, sorry for not understanding bigotry, but help me out here. How are Muslims taking over the West, that's the theme of this thread, isn't it?

Originally posted by trailertrash
You have no idea of what you're talking about...

Really?

“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world.

But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world….

Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war.

Those [who say this] are witless.

Islam says, kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all!

...Whatever good there is, exists thanks to the sword, and in the shadow of the sword!

People cannot be made obedient, except with the sword!

The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors!

...Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war?

I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”

—Ayatollah Khomeini (1902-1989) Iran’s Supreme Leader from 1979 to 1989—the highest ranking political and religious authority of the nation.

www.religioustolerance.org...

So the Ayatollah Khomeini, Iran’s Supreme Leader from 1979 to 1989—the highest ranking political and religious authority of the nation wants to spit on you for your foolishness.

By the way, Islamic terorists have carried out 17,441 terorrist attacks around the globe in the name of Islam since 9/11

www.thereligionofpeace.com...

Just you keep banging that 'Islam is peaceful' drum.

No one is buying it anymore.

reply to post by confreak


"This shouldn't be tolerated" ? Last I checked we were allowed personal freedom of choice in our religion.

It really makes me angry when I read the anti-Muslim stuff on here, I get the feeling none of the posters have any muslim friends or have even met a Muslim before. I have a few, and believe, they are just like you and me other than they are a bit less tolerant of drug-taking, boozing, womanising, etc than I am... but I don't see anything wrong with having morals.

I'd place a bet there are more white extremists (Racists, Anarchists, Anti-Government) in the US than there are extreme muslims in the whole of the middle east.

Originally posted by yakuzakid
reply to post by confreak

 

"This shouldn't be tolerated" ? Last I checked we were allowed personal freedom of choice in our religion.

It really makes me angry when I read the anti-Muslim stuff on here, I get the feeling none of the posters have any muslim friends or have even met a Muslim before. I have a few, and believe, they are just like you and me other than they are a bit less tolerant of drug-taking, boozing, womanising, etc than I am... but I don't see anything wrong with having morals.

I'd place a bet there are more white extremists (Racists, Anarchists, Anti-Government) in the US than there are extreme muslims in the whole of the middle east.

Read the whole Original Post, you only read half. If you read the whole thing, at the end you will find a magical surprise, trust me, it is in yellow text

Originally posted by confreak
So you believe Muslims are taking over the West because ...

I'm quiet confused, sorry for not understanding bigotry, but help me out here. How are Muslims taking over the West, that's the theme of this thread, isn't it?

I believe Muslims are a danger to the West because since 9/11, in the USA we have had Muslim Americans conspiring to destroy the Brooklyn bridge, a Somali Muslim living in Ohio plotting to blow up a local shopping mall, a cell of 7 Muslims plotting to blow up the New York stock exchange, A US Muslim and accomplice plotting to blow up the NY subway, two NY mosque leaders who plotted to blow up an Indian diplomat with a shoulder fired grenade launcher, a group of 4 Muslims who plotted to blow up National Guard facilities and synagogues in the LA area, 2 Muslims who conspired to blow up the Wyoming natural gas refinery & the Transcontinental Pipeline, a Muslim flying into Chicago plotting to use a dirty bomb in the USA, 2 Muslim men plotting to blow up the US Capitol and Word Bank Headquarters, 7 Muslims arrested for plotting to blow up the Sears tower in Chicago, 8 Muslims arrested for planning to blow up NY city train tunnels, a Muslim man who plotted to set off hand grenades in a shopping mall outside Chicago, 6 Muslims conspiring to attack Fort Dix, New Jersey, a Muslim who planned to set of a TAPT bomb in the NY subway, a Muslim who plotted to blow up a Dallas skyscraper, a Muslim who tried to set off a car bomb outside the courthouse in downtown Springfield, Illinois, 2 Muslims who plotted to murder civilians in US shopping malls, 4 Muslims plotting to blow up “aviation fuel tanks and pipelines at the John F. Kennedy International Airport” in New York City and 4 Muslims planning to shoot down planes with stinger missiles.

creepingsharia.wordpress.com...

Oh almost forgot a Muslim shouting 'God is great' murdered 13 people at Fort Hood.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au...

reply to post by ollncasino


If you didn't notice through your blind curtain, you didn't explain how Muslims are taking over, rather just posted individual acts of violence.

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
Hey Confreak,

You should be banned from ATS for showing the absurdity of the claims made by those who fear Muslims!

In reality, you are correct. Most people fear the Muslims because they are easily scared by what they do not understand.

Perhaps people are scared of Islam because they do not understand it...BUT...if they DID understand it, they would be TERRIFIED!

Originally posted by confreak
reply to post by ollncasino

 

If you didn't notice through your blind curtain, you didn't explain how Muslims are taking over, rather just posted individual acts of violence

Perhaps this will explain, although your head is so deep in the sand, it would be hard for it not to go over your head

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam:

The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life, a government.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components.

The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

This is the case in:

United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.

This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.

Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of nonbelievers of all other religions (including nonconforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of sharia law as a weapon, and jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is ongoing in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of “Dar-es-Salaam” — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the madrassas are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by sharia law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrassas. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.

I am not racist, though I must confess I HATE multiculturism.

I didn't ask for it, I didn't vote for it.

Having a mosque dominate the skyline of a British town makes me sick to the stomach..

When you make the choice to move to another country, you should not demand things to change on your behalf.

At best, you should see yourself as a long-term visitor to that country.


Regards, Skellon.