Strauss-Kahn Rape Case 'Close To Collapse'

And now the secrets come out in retaliation

1. Sakozy was/is or was once an authentic Hebrew Helper for Isreal. ( Whatever that is ??)

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
He was going to resign to run for the French presidency anyway.

So getting him out of office by such a ruse seems pointless.

Only if you have a very superficial understanding of the case.

The thing is, he was 'removed' from his position at a key time. He was on his way to a meeting with Andrea Merkel relating to both Greek and Irish 'bailout's, and was replaced by John Lipsky who made KEY DECISIONS regarding both those country's austerity measures tat would have been made by DSK. So, all they needed was the window of time. And now they have Legaurd, who is US trained and employed!

And what decisions would DSK have made that were any different?

the conditions of the bailouts were telegraphed ages ago.......

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul


And what decisions would DSK have made that were any different?

the conditions of the bailouts were telegraphed ages ago.......

We will have to see what Christine Legaurd does to know the differences.

'telegraphed ages ago'? On what do you base that claim? A guess?

DSK was for more 'gentle' austerity measures. Lipsky likely pushed Greece and Ireland too accept far more strict and brutal cuts. Because that benefits the US. It seems quite obvious that removing DSK and putting an AMERICAN at the helm temporarily is likely far more than just a coincidence.

This is a complicated issue, and one that requires a LOT of backstory. I'd suggest you hunker down and do some reading about DSK's approach vs. the US approach. There is obviously a lot fo info you are just glossing over to come to your current conclusion.





uk.reuters.com...

Letter sent to DSK's lawyers by the district attorney Cyrus Vance on 6/30

Found on a french MSM website, it looks legit.

I challenge the presentation that DSK is/was Sarkozy's main rival. This "fact" is based on a few polls this winter. DSK has always looked good in polls, always overestimated by pollsters for some reason, he is a media darling.
DSK is not very good at campaigning, it is often said he could be a more successful politician if he was more ambitious and that he doesn't want IT enough unlike, say,... Sarkozy.
Primaries are to be held this autumn, presidentials are next year, DSK was not particularly talked about before the polls showed him on top. It really is way too early to declare him or any other figure as Sarkozy's main rival.
To me, it is clear the MSM are crafting this perception that he was Sarkozy's feared rival, even almost elected president if you listen to them... To me, he could have revealed himself Sarkozy's main opponent for the Presidentials but it was far from done.
To me, there is no ground to declare he was Sarkozy's main rival, I can explain why more extensively if necessary.

I doubt he has any chance to be elected now and most of all I doubt he wants to run. We will see how it turns out, charges were not dropped yet.

I have learnt about Mahmoud Omar by reading this thread. It should have been bigger news.

Christine Lagarde, an interesting character since she has appeared in 2005. Prior to 2005, she was completely unknown in France, she has never been involved in politics before. It is said that after years of working in the US, she returned to France to start in politics, helped by former French PM, Raffarin.
Unknown, unheard of, living for 10 years abroad, having never faced popular vote, she instantly becomes Trade Minister, nothing less ! It shows how important she is.

So she receives help from Raffarin a former PM who was close to Chirac and she is given a position in the government by the then-PM Villepin who is close to Chirac.
When Sarkozy is elected in 2007, you would think she has to go. How wrong ! She becomes Economy and Finances Minister, nothing less !
That is quite a feature. Unknown in 2005, Economy Minister in 2007 and in a different camp... She held the position until she left for the IMF. Four years as the Economy Minister, quite a feature again. France apparently desperately needed her to manage trade and the economy and use her expertise and competency as a... lawyer in what are very hard times. Now France will share Lagarde with the world to save its economy
Interesting character that Lagarde.

I was one of the first people to post about his arrest being a possible setup and about the first one to say that the invasion of Liyba was all based on lies.

Watch you're CNN/FOX/BBC and then see the contrast when you watch Russia Today and ask yourself if our own news outlets are not hiding lots of news from the pubic and then look who controls them.

Hope DSK spills the beans when he gets back home

reply to post by burntheships


If I were a dedicated conspiracy theorist I would say this is one heck of a false flag operation to shot Strauss-Kahn to a pivotal public and political place/office in society. It wreaked of setup to me when it initially went down.

Originally posted by Violater1


Sadly, she will probably be killed either by hit-and -run, or a drug overdose. Since the planted story incorporates a drug dealer, my bet is on the drug overdose.

Well you gonna love this development then - breaking news -

Investigators with the Manhattan district attorney’s office learned the call had been recorded and had it translated from a “unique dialect of Fulani,” a language from the woman’s native country, Guinea, according to a well-placed law enforcement official.

When the conversation was translated — a job completed only this Wednesday — investigators were alarmed:

[Size=3]“She says words to the effect of, ‘Don’t worry, this guy has a lot of money. I know what I’m doing,’ ”

the official said.]/ex]

It was another ground-shifting revelation in a continuing series of troubling statements, fabrications and associations that unraveled the case and upended prosecutors’ view of the woman. Once, in the hours after she said she was attacked on May 14, she’d been a “very pious, devout Muslim woman, shattered by this experience,” the official said — a seemingly ideal witness. www.nytimes.com...

reply to post by incrediblelousminds


Very interesting developments in the case!

During the meetings between The Maid, her lawyer, and the investigators, the information about the money
was revealed. deposits of thousands of dollars in Arizona, Georgia, and New York and Pennsyvania into her account. She could not account for this. She had also been given a taped recording; one she had been urged to tell by a man who gave it to her on a cassette recording to memorize. She had listened to the recording repeatedly, and memorized the account of how her husband was killed in Guinea to embellish her application
for asylum.

The final meeting occurred on Tuesday in the seventh-floor offices of the district attorney at 1 Hogan Place. It began at 11 a.m. and lasted five or six hours, except for a short lunch break, around an oval table in a conference room in the offices of the Public Integrity Unit.

It was devastating. In recent weeks, investigators collected bank records showing deposits of thousands of dollars in Arizona, Georgia, New York and Pennsylvania to an account in her name.

The woman had repeatedly said that the Sofitel was her only source of income.

Now, investigators confronted her with the bank records.

The woman, silent, turned to Mr. Thompson, seemingly pleading for direction on how to respond. He seemed startled.

“He was speechless,” the well-placed official said. www.nytimes.com...

So, a man gave here a recording to memorize before she came to the U.S.? I guess that could be just
another coincidence....

reply to post by burntheships


This case is getting as unpredictable as the Anthony trial. Anybody that you send a paper check too can use the routing number and account number printed at the bottom of the check to deposit money into your account without your permission. If this were a legitimate media story we would be getting much more detailed information. My Dew meter has been signaling rain since the day this story first broke.

reply to post by Bordon81


While its possible that the deposits were made without her permission,
surely she must have known they were there.

The times she became unavailable to the investigators coincide with the bank depostits.

If she was indeed surviving on a maids salary, she would know to immediately report the
money to the investigators. No?

The deposits are consistent with the comments she made to her boyfriend in jail,
only 28 hours after she was supposedly raped...about how she knew what she was doing,
that Mr. Strauss-Kahn had a lot of money, and not to worry about her.

edit on 2-7-2011 by burntheships because: format

Well, as chairman of the IMF, he pretty well raped all of us

Originally posted by playswithmachines
Well, as chairman of the IMF, he pretty well raped all of us

Yes, how ironic that this is the sting that brought him down.

Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by playswithmachines
Well, as chairman of the IMF, he pretty well raped all of us

Yes, how ironic that this is the sting that brought him down.

I suspect the 'irony' was intentionally written into the play. Anyone who knows much about IMF policy over the past decades knows it has been run by disaster-capitalist types who have raped the developing world, handing out loans to dictators and varied 'leaders', only to see these loans shouldered by the impoverished citizens of these 'developing' nations.

So what a GREAT storyline to take down their managing director. Fat, grotesque socialist bureaucrat rapes a poor, innocent singe mother immigrant from an impoverished African failed state. It's tempting to swallow hook, line and sinker for anyone with a moderate understanding of IMF policy and a liberal social conscious.

OF course, that was when the media made her out into some helpless victim. Now, the very prosecution who told us her testimony is airtight is telling us she's a fraud. So now we're supposed to hate HER instead of DSK. But that, too, is a distraction I suspect. She probably IS a fraud. Many have suspected that from the beginning. But she is likely just a pawn being manipulated by much more powerful people than she. The media now want us to believe she was part of some kind of drug-dealer shakedown. But I think we all know who, if anyone, ACTUALLY 'paid' her. OR, rather, not 'who' they are, but who they represent by seeing who benefits from DSK's public humiliation and subsequent resignation from his post heading up the International Monetary Fund.

They are using her up to get at him. He resigned, putting American John Lipsky in charge at a key time before the G8 summit and talks around the Greek and Irish bailouts.

IMF leadership role Lipsky's unplanned accession at the IMF led quickly to his immersion in addressing the European and Greek sovereign debt crises, a high-profile role his predecessor had been playing.

At the 37th G8 summit held on 26-27 May 2011 in Deauville, France, Lipsky had to overcome Germany's reluctance to fund another round of bailouts for Greece. He did so by threatening to withhold IMF disbursements, an action that would precipitate a Greek default -- an option none was ready to accept at that point.[15] In the "bitter infighting,"

Lipsky was characterized in The Guardian as "less silky, much blunter" than Strauss-Kahn

Hardline IMF forced Germany to guarantee Greek bailout Acting IMF chief threatened to trigger sovereign default if Berlin failed to come to rescue of Greece

Germany was forced to agree to bail out Greece for the second time in a year under strong pressure from the International Monetary Fund following the resignation last month of its head, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the Guardian has learned. Under its acting chief, the American John Lipsky, the IMF has taken a more hardline stance.

The fund warned the Germans in recent weeks that it would withhold urgently needed funds and trigger a Greek sovereign default unless Berlin stopped delaying and pledged firmly that it would come to Greece's rescue. Senior officials and diplomats in Brussels confirmed that the IMF threat to pull the plug on its funding, in stark contrast to the more emollient line of Strauss-Kahn, had been defused because of a German climbdown.


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Privately, sources said that Lipsky challenged the Germans on the fringes of a G8 summit in France almost three weeks ago, and demanded that Berlin guarantee Greece's borrowing requirements and put a figure on the pledge. The IMF ultimatum came a week after Strauss-Kahn, a former French presidential contender, resigned as IMF chief following his New York arrest on charges he denies of attempted rape and sexual assault of a hotel chambermaid.

Berlin blinked, according to participants in the negotiations, and 10 days after the IMF challenge, the Merkel government admitted for the first time that Greece would need a new bailout. But it stoked further controversy by demanding that Greece's private creditors take losses on their loans.

www.guardian.co.uk...

How Dominique Strauss-Kahn's arrest in New York worsened Europe's woe Bitter infighting over Greek bailout has intensified without former IMF chief at the helm

John Lipsky profile John Lipsky smiles and jokes easily in private meetings and in front of the cameras, but as an economist he raises few laughs, especially in Greece.

The 64-year-old interim boss of the International Monetary Fund is closely aligned with the Chicago school of economists whose adherence to free and unregulated markets in the 90s is largely blamed for the financial crisis. In the 1990s, as chief economist at first Salomon Brothers and then JP Morgan, he rode the stock market boom and lectured countries on fiscal rectitude.

He has made clear he is very different from his predecessor, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, who voiced concerns about the lack of jobs created by western governments and the potential for social unrest. In all his public pronouncements, Lipksy has read the IMF rulebook about cutting public spending to meet debt obligations.

www.guardian.co.uk...

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul


And what decisions would DSK have made that were any different?

the conditions of the bailouts were telegraphed ages ago.......

We will have to see what Christine Legaurd does to know the differences.

'telegraphed ages ago'? On what do you base that claim? A guess?

How about news reports from a couple of weeks befoer the alleged assault for example - news.bbc.co.uk...

Or how about 2 May 2010? www.reuters.com...

This is a complicated issue, and one that requires a LOT of backstory. I'd suggest you hunker down and do some reading about DSK's approach vs. the US approach. There is obviously a lot fo info you are just glossing over to come to your current conclusion.

My current conclusion is that DSK is back as a potential candidate for the French presidency next year, and in some quarters in France this case will do his campaign no harm at all - www.bbc.co.uk...


How does your information relate to that??

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul


My current conclusion is that DSK is back as a potential candidate for the French presidency next year, and in some quarters in France this case will do his campaign no harm at all - www.bbc.co.uk...


How does your information relate to that??

Again, I appreciate your perspective on this, but it seems apparent you are not coming to any sot of informed conclusion here. Your input appears to be not much more than a guess. Not even a hypothesis.

It is indeed a possibility that this case may make him more 'electable' in France. OF course, prior to his arrest, he was WIDELY considered a shoe-in, so if you are claiming he manufactured this arrest for sympathy, there is very little motive.

Alternately, DSK was likely to be far more patient with Greece and Ireland in terms of austerity measures than John Lipsky. DSK being arrested DAYS before he would meet with the Germans to discuss the greek bailout should be a red flag. Him not being granted bail until AFTER he stepped down as managing director should be another. The 'airtight' case being thrown under the bus by the PROSECUTION just days AFTER Christine LeGaurd was confirmed as the next Managing Director sold be yet another. The NYPD responsing with such diligence to a rape accusation is yet another red flag. The US media reporting, across all partisan lines, that he was guilty from day one? Yet another red flag. That VERY SAME media now all throwing the star accuser under the bus? Yep, red flag.

And yet you are still going to claim that this was just a random occurrence, with no connections to those who likely directly benefited from his stepping down? That just seems likely a far too naive approach to me.

Feel free to follow the money:

Dominique Strauss-Kahn Was Tying to Torpedo the Dollar

www.abovetopsecret.com...

i think it speaks volumes about this particular online community that this issue gets a fraction of the attention these silly Obama BC threads get.