Man Kicked Off Flight for Cursing

Apparently, cursing can get you kicked off a plane.

After a layover in Detroit, Robert Sayegh had been waiting at the gate for 45 minutes.

A flight attendant overheard him commenting to his seatmate, "What's taking so (expletive) long to close the overhead compartments?" The plane taxied to the runway, but then returned so police could escort Sayegh off.

So, he didn't even curse at the flight attendant - just within his/her hearing??? That's INSANE!

The TV producer and children’s book author, 37, says he used the F-word twice and called the resulting situation “ridiculous” and “embarrassing.”

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All I can say to all my friends in 'Amerika?'

GET OUT NOW!

peace

reply to post by silo13


This country is in a sad state. It will only get worse as time progresses. To be kicked off a flight for cursing...well I suppose I am on a no fly list some where.

I find it mildly amusing the crap we are supposed to endure for a service paid. We buy the tickets, we pay the ridiculous "baggage fees" only to be herded through for prostate exams and violations of our 4th amendment rights only to have our free speech trounced in the process.

reply to post by Doom and Gloom

Add to your post that this gentleman wasn't even directing his comment AT the flight attendant - but to his seatmate! That's just soooo wrong on so many levels. What? now we're supposed to sit down, shut up ans don't speak unless we're spoken to???

WHY ARE PEOPLE PUTTING UP WITH THIS???

Or do Americans just find it acceptable that your rights of free speech only apply if a person in authority isn't eavesdropping???

Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by Doom and Gloom

 

What? now we're supposed to sit down, shut up and don't speak unless we're spoken to???

Yes. Flying is a priviledge, not a right! (anymore)

So we've got thugs with badges and now thugs with bags of peanuts. Awesome.

reply to post by Enkii

Yes. Flying is a priviledge, not a right! (anymore)

Someday I've got to ask someone to explain that to me so I can understand it. To date - I do NOT!

Am I OWNED?

Well you can bet your boots the next time I fly you'll probably be hearing about me on ATS. I've just about had it with the 'police state' Amerika...

Funny, it's like we're all a bunch of cows standing in line to pay for a ticket to the slaughterhouse and complaining the lines are too long.

peace

Owned? Yes, I'm not sure whether by HOMELAND Security or the Federal RESERVE (what reserve?), or both.

I'm doing my part. I've already boycotted flying. I'd rather drive 20 hours than endure all the crap going on. Can't even take plastic hammers on the plane. Ugh.

I wish I could drive to the Caribbean and Asia where most of the family are living HAPPILY.

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This is a bigger problem in America. They don't understand the point of freedom in speech. They say you can say what you what but it comes with consequences. This is one of them. What they don't get is if you have a consequences for saying something it's not freedom. O America when are you going to stand up for your rights.

Relating to this, its always sad to hear that the only way to protest this in people's eyes is not to fly. Since that isn't going to happen, how would you stop the insanity going on in airports? It would be nice to use a website like this to organize some kind of rally, most likely held outside of an airport....Does there exist any sites or groups that are doing this? I haven't looked into this really, I suppose I will after this post.

Originally posted by HelloJCneedsomehelp
reply to post by silo13

 

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O America when are you going to stand up for your rights.

We're still awaiting permission. Also, there's some concern that there may be cursing when we do. We're still negotiating the penalties. We have every assurance that it will be soon....

I dont believe it.
No seriously, I dont believe Robert Sayegh's story. And thats the only one we've got so far.
To give up a flight spot, turn the plane around, go back and all the other stuff would cost the airline dearly and I'll bet my left arm they didnt do it simply because he was "overheard" talking to the passenger next to him on one occasion.

ATS users are always going on about how to not trust the mainstream media because they sensationalise stories.
Well how about you actually DO it for once.

That's absurd. In Victoria, Australia, the government has recently introduced fines for swearing in public. Now, there already exists penalties for being a ridiculous public nuisance, which is fair enough - I for one am incredibly sick and tired of being yelled at, sworn at and abused on the street for no reason by bloody lunatics with mental health/drug problems. However, this new legislation is not about public safety and comfort, but about... well, revenue raising. If the police want to collect some money all they have to do is take a stroll through the nightclub district on a Friday or Saturday night, and at $240 a pop, they'll be sure to rake in a good haul.

Seems as though there is a very widespread crackdown on swearing, which is odd. Even on the news (in Australia at least), reporters are allowed to say s**t (feels ridiculous to have to censor that... we're not children, or at least I hope not), and they use minor swear words like that quite liberally. Is it a sign of the governments and corporate entities securing their hold over us by reducing us to the level of small children who must be monitored and sheltered irrevocably from the horror that is reality?

The man on the plane should get some sort of compensation for his abominable treatment - in the form of his money back of course, rather the great American tradition of sueing.. I'm guessing that nowhere in the terms and conditions of his flight booking did it stipulate language restrictions at the risk of imposed penalty.

Incidentally, I think I learnt something new today. People from the U.S.A. use the word "cursing" to refer to swearing and/or offensive language in general, that is correct, yes?

I am afraid our world has become a place of protecting everyone's rights around us that we have forgotten that we too have rights. I see it everyday everywhere.

You cant curse- someone gets offended and you get kicked off an airplane.
You cant smoke- someone is allergic to smoke.
You cant toot your horn at a slow driver- that is road rage. (!)
You cant say anything negative about our PTB - that is unamerican.

I frankly am getting tired of being American. All of our rights have gone down the toilet. THe only people that have rights these days are those that moan and complain (I almost used the B word!) until they get their way.

This is my greatest problem with our country.

If I didnt have family in this wonderful country I think I would buy a remote island in the middle of the Pacific and start my own nation.

Originally posted by Enkii

Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by Doom and Gloom

 

What? now we're supposed to sit down, shut up and don't speak unless we're spoken to???

Yes. Flying is a priviledge, not a right! (anymore)

That is correct, as with driving.
As a citizen I applaud any airline or businesss that has some rules of decorum. You younger folks seem to that that four letter work is OK in a public place. Older folks do not. If you think you have the right to utter them in normal conversation among strangers and children (because you evidently lack a sufficiently expansive vocabulary to express your anger, frustration or [usually] just general feelings) then anyone around you has the right to protest for your lack of manners. --That seems typical with any type of "producer." View it as similar to the rules for smoking. You are violating the space of others. But if you lack respect for others, have no manners, and think yourself free to act as you please, there will be some to protest your actions.

Usually, that does not happen because the protestor automatically knows that the offending person will undoubtedly launch into a profanity-laced triade that only makes the situation worse.

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good for the airline ! if the yob can,t speak without using obscene language then kick him off , i am sure the other passengers agreed , i would not like my wife and children to have to sit there and listen to his filthy mouth .

Under the US Penal code driving is a privilege. Which means it is a permission given by the government to do something. however Privileges can be taken away (suspended license, DUI, ect.).

A right is only a protection from some government action, you can say anything you want within the law, you cannot incite a riot or make a threat against the president. so a right doesn't mean you can do or say anything you want, it means you have some protection from government intrusion.

Now for the getting booted from a plane. A plane is owned by a corporation, which has its own policies, rules and regulations. which means if you don't follow a policy then they don't have to have you as a customer. They did nothing wrong by kicking this person off the plane. seriously read any airlines policy regarding customer conduct, its their plane not yours, they can kick you off for any reason they see fit. this is not a violation of your rights because they did not tell the person he could never swear, they just made it clear he wouldn't be swearing on their plane.