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US Law Allows Testing BioChem Agents On Civilians

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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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this is bad news indeed




posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 03:01 PM
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You should probably go back and read the 3rd post in this thread, where it is pointed out that the headline is a crock ....www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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Yes yes Gaul. Trust the government becuase look at the third post, it cleary says the gov needs permission.



In 1987 the United States Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Stanley, 483 U.S. 669, that a U.S. serviceman who was given '___' without his consent, as part of military experiments, could not sue the U.S. Army for damages.

Dissenting the verdict in U.S. v. Stanley, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor stated:

No judicially crafted rule should insulate from liability the involuntary and unknowing human experimentation alleged to have occurred in this case. Indeed, as Justice Brennan observes, the United States played an instrumental role in the criminal prosecution of Nazi officials who experimented with human subjects during the Second World War, and the standards that the Nuremberg Military Tribunals developed to judge the behavior of the defendants stated that the 'voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential ... to satisfy moral, ethical, and legal concepts.' If this principle is violated, the very least that society can do is to see that the victims are compensated, as best they can be, by the perpetrators.
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An example below of how much the US gov is concerned about this matter and how much it cares about its citizens.


As of 2007, not a single U.S. government researcher had been prosecuted for human experimentation, and many of the victims of U.S. government experiments have not received compensation, or in many cases, acknowledgment of what was done to them.[157]
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Know why it wasn't a big deal to pass that law, besides them just ingnoring it? Becuase they can simply outsource the experiments just like jobs.


From 1988 to 2008, the number of overseas clinical trials for drugs intended for American consumption increased by 2,000%, to approximately 6,500 trials. These trials are often conducted in areas with large numbers of poor and illiterate people who grant their consent by signing an "X" or making a thumb print on a form. These tests are rarely monitored by the FDA, and have in some cases proved deadly, such as a case where 49 babies died in New Delhi, India during a 30-month trial. The cost of testing in countries without safety regulations is much lower; and, due to lax or nonexistent oversight, pharmaceutical corporations (or research companies they've contracted out to) are able to more easily suppress research that demonstrates harmful effects and only report positive results.
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Evidence of the USA's reguard for human rights.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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Hey I wasn't commenting on government trustworthiness at all - nice derailing!


But the fact is that the law does NOT allow uninformed testing on civilians - indeed it makes it illegal.

So if you think someone has broken the law you can at least start a process by laying a complaint. Have you done so???

What happens after that is another story.


edit on 13-12-2011 by Aloysius the Gaul because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 11:10 PM
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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
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Hey I wasn't commenting on government trustworthiness at all - nice derailing!


But the fact is that the law does NOT allow uninformed testing on civilians - indeed it makes it illegal.

So if you think someone has broken the law you can at least start a process by laying a complaint. Have you done so???

What happens after that is another story.


edit on 13-12-2011 by Aloysius the Gaul because: (no reason given)


I am not derailing anything. You say the law says its illegal and I say............


US Senate declares the entire USA to be a "Battleground".

A bill passed late last night (93-7 votes) that declares the entire United States of America a battleground. What this means is that the U.S. Military can now operate with impunity, and grant the U.S. Military the unchecked power to arrest, detain, interrogate, and even assassinate United States citizens with impunity.

What this means is the United States is basically declaring war with itself. We need to shed light on this and make sure it does not become a law, otherwise we should just say good bye to the Bill of Rights and everything America used to stand for.

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that there is no law that the government cannot overide. Do I think someone broke the law? Seeing as how the Constitution has become nothing more than a expired joke to the US government I think the leaders of the USA break the law every day and with every new law that denies you your constitutional rights.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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Thank you for agreeing with me that the law mentioned in the OP makes testing illegal, and therfore the headling of this thread is incorrect.

As for the content of your post - The Government has alwasy been able to pass and rescind laws, and there have always been laws for emergencies that have suspended others too.

What is your point??



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