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Originally posted by macman
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
But, why would you need personal insurance and such if Obamacare is so wonderful? You have yet to answer that?
You also make a HUGE misguided assumption on my insurance situation, and others as well.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
And when your insurance company can't compete anymore with the Govt, and are forced to either raise cost or close the doors, what does your grandfather clause provide then?
Originally posted by Kaploink
The outrage shouldn't be at just waivers, the outrage should be over the fact that every American still doesn't have health insurance. It should be outrage over that even those with health insurance still have to declare bankruptcy after a major illness.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by jibeho
Please explain to me how an organization benefits from recieving a waiver?
If they don't benefit in any way...what motivation is there for favortism.
Two others have already failed to show that there is any favortism...would you like a crack at it???
Second, it creates at least the perception -- and possibly the fact -- that regulatory enforcement is being subordinated to Administration political priorities or concerns. The combination of HHS establishing interim dollar limits in the regulation, but then also instituting a process for waiving those limits on a case-by-case basis, appears deliberately designed to convey the perception that the new law is having a positive effect, while selectively avoiding any enforcement actions that might create the opposite public perception that the law is resulting in adverse, unintended consequences
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
But, why would you need personal insurance and such if Obamacare is so wonderful? You have yet to answer that?
You also make a HUGE misguided assumption on my insurance situation, and others as well.
LOL
You do know that "Obamacare" IS PERSONAL INSURANCE....RIGHT???
Good lord...educate yourself.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
And when your insurance company can't compete anymore with the Govt, and are forced to either raise cost or close the doors, what does your grandfather clause provide then?
THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT COMPETITION.
WOW...you don't even have a basic understanding of the legislation.
How can I continue to have a discussion when you don't even know the basic facts?
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
And when your insurance company can't compete anymore with the Govt, and are forced to either raise cost or close the doors, what does your grandfather clause provide then?
THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT COMPETITION.
WOW...you don't even have a basic understanding of the legislation.
How can I continue to have a discussion when you don't even know the basic facts?
And the typical "You don't understand" remark. The only thing missing is the other most commonly used liberal statement of "That's different".
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by macman
macman, the state has decreed that you will invoulutarily, voulunteer to accept government insurance. If you don't, you will be punished for not accepting the kind "offer" of free care which you have to pay for.
But this isn't totarialism/socialism/communism.
It's fluffy unicorns and happy smiles*.
*Smile or you will be shot!
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Kaploink
Those with coverage have to file bankruptcy?
I have yet to see that.
It's simple, if you want health insurance, get a job that has it as a benefit or save up and get it.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by macman
macman, the state has decreed that you will invoulutarily, voulunteer to accept government insurance. If you don't, you will be punished for not accepting the kind "offer" of free care which you have to pay for.
But this isn't totarialism/socialism/communism.
It's fluffy unicorns and happy smiles*.
*Smile or you will be shot!
There is no "government insurance".
It is unbelievable that people actually think there is a government offered insurance plan involved with this health care reform.
The public option died, unfortunately, so there is no "government insurance". Let's please stick with the facts.