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But mutinies continue to occur, especially in the armed forces of developing nations. And mutinies have similarities to other types of rebellions, including worker strikes, riots, prison rebellions and political uprisings.
University of Washington sociologists are studying naval records of mutinies as a way to see how modern-day ill-treatment toward subordinates can lead to violence.
...mutinies emerged because of unpaid and delinquent wages or excessive punishment.
Pfaff, an expert on collective action -- how groups of people work together toward a common goal. Previously, he's stu
The work is funded by the U.S. Air Force Office of Scientific Research and by the Harry Frank Guggenheim Foundation, which funds research on violence, aggression and dominance.
The sociologists are focusing on Royal Navy mutinies from 1740-1820, a period in which Great Britain achieved global dominance on the shoulders of her navy.
insight into who the people who are willing to be the "ring leader" is, can lead to them targeting and eliminating people with that psychology so that they can lower the standards of treatment even more.
If I Could Stop One Heart From Breaking
IF I can stop one heart from breaking,
I shall not live in vain;
If I can ease one life the aching,
Or cool one pain,
Or help one fainting robin
Unto his nest again,
I shall not live in vain.
Emily Dickinson
In his profound and stirring book, Man’s Search for Meaning, Holocaust concentration
camp survivor Viktor Frankl wrote;
On the average, only those prisoners could keep alive who, after years of trekking
from camp to camp, had lost all scruples in their fight for existence; they were
prepared to use every means, honest and otherwise, even brutal force, theft, and
betrayal of their friends, in order to save themselves. We who have come back, by
the aid of many lucky chances or miracles—whatever one may choose to call
them—we know: the best of us did not return.[19]
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander
And its a really bad strategy to sacrifice yourself for those who will not reciprocate it.
Originally posted by wildtimes
Heh. Yeah, boundaries. Personal boundaries. NOT my strongest suit. Boy howdy, you haven't any idea how far I let it go, either. And I won't tell you....let's say I should have a doctorate from the School of Hard Knocks.
Originally posted by wildtimes
So, where do I find the others? I didn't find them after all in the "institutions" of social workers. A few, yes, but they burned out just like I did. Lots of the ones who stayed became....well....something other than the idealistic change agents they had started out to be.
I would like ATS members to think about and contribute their thoughts - what would it take for YOU to say "Enough" "I've had it", and start organizing a grassroots rebeliion...
I would like ATS members to think about and contribute their thoughts - what would it take for YOU to say "Enough" "I've had it", and start organizing a grassroots rebeliion...
I also figured out a while back that the reason we have sociopathic leaders is because of the nasty selfishness of those at the bottom. They want brutal people to lead them, who will kill off their enemies and plunder their resources, hoping for some crumbs to fall down to them. (Trickle down economics) It almost serves them right that what really ends up happening is that they are exploited themselves by the same people they hope will brutalize their competitors.
Its because of what I said earlier, that probably sounded awful to your kind ears. The people at the bottom are usually not that different in quality from the people at the top. They are still predators, just not as successful at it.
Ah well. I used to feel a great deal of pity for the common man, but the more I know, the more I realize that they are not so different on the whole from those who exploit them.
If you really start watching people, you will see them. They are more rare than you think, but they are out there.
Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
"As above and so bellow" Hermes the Thrice Great.
You know you should be careful or one day you to will be seeing mysteries in everything, and talking about crazy theories here on ATS and saying things that make no sense to anybody else, who knows you might even be called a nutter. Or if your really unlucky you might even catch that disease called being a little enlightened.
Ah just messing a little, but ya it seems to be like the top and bottom have many things in common.
Originally posted by wildtimes
But then I thought: Okay, no need to be defensive. Illusions has a good point. For some weird reason (I think there's a tattoo on my forehead that only sociopaths or the needy can see) people seem compelled to tell me their problems.
Originally posted by wildtimes
And I am always willing to listen respectfully, empathetically, and believe the person is the best expert on themselves, and see my role as giving them an opportunity to "share" with another soul their burdens, to perhaps hear a different perspective, or at the very least to let them know they have been heard.
Originally posted by wildtimes
I found that the kids with the most volatile, explosive behaviors were calmed by me. They sought me out rather than the "social workers" who were there to "counsel" them.
Originally posted by wildtimes
I still fantasize that one day I'll be an old granny, bent and grey and rocking in my chair, and one of those kids (who are all grown now), will seek me out and say, "I just wanted to let you know how much you helped me."
Originally posted by wildtimes
I used to tell people, "If I can change this child's trajectory by just one degree, and instead of killing someone they merely take their wallet, I will consider I have had a positive impact."
Originally posted by wildtimes
Anyway, Illusions, you and I have lots we could talk about, I suspect.
Originally posted by wildtimes
The sum of this post/reply is that, I know I know less than I thought I knew before -- but I do know some stuff, and I do watch people. I thank you for your straightforward advice, I totally agree with it, and I admit to my own vulnerability to sociopaths and narcissists. Oh yes, I admit it. Mea Culpa.
Originally posted by wildtimes
I hope this can change, but I wonder.
This is how modern society has damaged me. I trusted until I was betrayed. Now, I suspect betrayal rather than Reciprocal Altruism. And it hurts my soul.