MSNBC - Ron Paul To Chris Matthews:"Saying I'm For Property Rights Therefore I Am A Racist Is A Gi

Man, Ron's good. He shot down one newscaster without even trying. What really stood out is that he stood true to his values, not alot of people can do that anymore.

reply to post by Scytherius


Placing the needs of fellow human beings over the rights of property owners places you in the position of having to answer the following questions:

1. Who decides which human beings are more worthy of the property currently held by the property owner?
2. How are you to remove said property from the owner?

In response to the second question, you have two options. You either give something of equal value in return for the property (you buy it from him). This is the method of rational men interacting in a peaceful society. Alternately, the body or entity who is the answer to the first question takes the property via the use of force in some manner. If you argue for this position, you clearly advocate robbery and theft, regardless of the intention behind it, and endorse the methods of brutes and criminals.

reply to post by ModernAcademia



www.youtube.com...

Chris Mathews gets owned by Ron Paul and says, “The third time is the charm. It worked for Ronald Regan, It will work for you sir.”

reply to post by ThichHeaded

Ron was pointing out that there were Laws in the south that affirmed that people could be property. Later laws made by governments made it illegal for blacks to enter different public places sit in back of busses and enforced by cops with guns and dogs. This was about laws that allowed taking away peoples freedoms as given by the constitutions for all people. So most people were good with selling to blacks or anyone with money but laws in that state or county prevented that in many cases. So under a libertarian there would be no laws to take a humans rights away in the first place. The civil rights bill would not of been needed if the U.S constitution was followed and unconstitutional abuses like slavery and later state law abuses. Ron may not of got this point across with tweety bird Chris.

A little off topic but ron paul none the less. I haven't talked to my friend in a long time, turns out she lives in galveston and I was like hey my favorite congerssman represents you. She doesn't like him cause he's against federally funded insurance (which i didn't even know existed). She's an insurance agent of course.
[YOU]
nice, and you have my favorite congressman
lol

[FRIEND]
oh Ron Paul
[You]

i like him anyways
[FRIEND]

sorry .. I differ

[You]

thats ok
[FRIEND]
he is against fed. funded flood insurance
as a rep from an island
I think its silly
you know how he got his start right?
[You]
shrimp?
[FRIEND]

no he was an ObGyn
[You]

oh yes
i know that
[FRIEND]

he sent birthday cards to all of the babies he birthed
and they remember
and vote
the thing is
I am fine w/ certain things he says
but..
there is no private flood insurance
its all done by the feds
and. we depend on it
here on our sand bar
[You]
lol
[FRIEND]

its insane to me that
someone could say pull up on your own bootstraps
when it comes to natural disaster
and the gov stepping in to provide it
I like my fed flood insurance
thanks uncle sam
[You]
i understand
but still have to side with him even though I'm from St. bernard.

[FRIEND]
know another thing I like?
my 40 hr work week
provided by unions
Im sure Ron Paul has something to say about that

[YOU]
Maybe he needs to send you a birthday card

The thing about Ron Paul is he has the experience to win this thing. This entire interview was about trying to catch him in some kind of trap... anything to label him as a racist or whatever else they can get. The msm did this in 2008 and they're already starting to do it again. The interviewer was doing his job; doing what he was told to do basically. You can see at the end he agrees with Paul though.

Ron Paul 2012. Freedom 2012.

Originally posted by mayabong

[FRIEND]
know another thing I like?
my 40 hr work week
provided by unions
Im sure Ron Paul has something to say about that

[YOU]
Maybe he needs to send you a birthday card

Hahaha. I have worked so many union jobs and subsequently met a bunch of union employees that get paid for 40 hours and work 15.

Tenure is not the same thing as aptitude.

reply to post by DuceizBack


When was the last time you were in the south? Are you blind? Seriously.. The demographics have changed since the 60's...

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by UcDat

 

Sure, he'll get votes from ATSers but they won't be enough votes to actually elect him.

THIS is why Ron Paul has not been taken seriously by the general population. THIS is what will kill his campaign, especially since he'd be running against Obama of all the people. Easy picking for his opponents.

I'm just trying to be realistic here. I want to vote for Ron but cannot over something like this.

All he is saying is that its not the feds place( as big gov is unconstitutional and trys to take away all freedoms be they good or bad ) if the law is still needed its the states place to enact it etc their is no reson for a educated or even uneducated genral population not to take him seriously he is not confusing and he has always said the same thing. As for the property rights law it would not matter if someone put up a stupied sign I am sure almost no one would go to that store out of respect for their fellow man and the store would bankrupt it self for being ignorant. He is just all around a better canidate .. what do you mean by something like this? And whats going to kill his campain being transparent speaking the truth you have me lost or do you mean every time a major news network has had him on they have tried to railroad him and put words in his mouth?( i would call it political rape personally... but he seems to carry his truth mace to spray them with right before he says stop tring to put words in my mouth.) O and realisticly Dr. R.P. would not have a prob. against Obama the polls have always shown that(although it is funny to watch the people in denial try to explain the polls away).

The one thing I like is already both the Democrats and Republicans are trying to bring Ron Paul down.

HE IS THE ONE TRUE THREAT TO THE ESTABLISHMENT.

Wow! The threads on this site move VERY FAST!! don't they? I voted for Ron Paul last time around- did before that too!. I'm a sort of radical libertarian. He is a libertarian- the Republican tag is, I think, just a strategic thing to overcome the American aversion to voting for third party candidates and get on the ballot.

One of the things I really like about him is that he wants to audit the Federal Reserve and he means it. I do believe this is where many of the problems originate.

Question to all, though-- will a single election cure the mess we're in (or succeed in at least making some constructive progress) or are these problems just too entrenched?

Originally posted by mayabong
A little off topic but ron paul none the less. I haven't talked to my friend in a long time, turns out she lives in galveston and I was like hey my favorite congerssman represents you. She doesn't like him cause he's against federally funded insurance (which i didn't even know existed). She's an insurance agent of course.
[YOU]
nice, and you have my favorite congressman
lol

[FRIEND]
oh Ron Paul
[You]

i like him anyways
[FRIEND]

sorry .. I differ

[You]

thats ok
[FRIEND]
he is against fed. funded flood insurance
as a rep from an island
I think its silly
you know how he got his start right?
[You]
shrimp?
[FRIEND]

no he was an ObGyn
[You]

oh yes
i know that
[FRIEND]

he sent birthday cards to all of the babies he birthed
and they remember
and vote
the thing is
I am fine w/ certain things he says
but..
there is no private flood insurance
its all done by the feds
and. we depend on it
here on our sand bar
[You]
lol
[FRIEND]

its insane to me that
someone could say pull up on your own bootstraps
when it comes to natural disaster
and the gov stepping in to provide it
I like my fed flood insurance
thanks uncle sam
[You]
i understand
but still have to side with him even though I'm from St. bernard.

[FRIEND]
know another thing I like?
my 40 hr work week
provided by unions
Im sure Ron Paul has something to say about that

[YOU]
Maybe he needs to send you a birthday card

maybe it would be a better idea not to
live on a flood plan ?

IMO ... and nothing against you or your friend ...
but most insurance nowadays seems like nothing more than a scam...
just say'n

reply to post by seaside sky


No, I don't think one or even two terms is enough to fix the damage. However someone needs to hit the brakes before we can turn this around. I believe he is the one that will do it.

Originally posted by seaside sky
Wow! The threads on this site move VERY FAST!! don't they? I voted for Ron Paul last time around- did before that too!. I'm a sort of radical libertarian. He is a libertarian- the Republican tag is, I think, just a strategic thing to overcome the American aversion to voting for third party candidates and get on the ballot.

One of the things I really like about him is that he wants to audit the Federal Reserve and he means it. I do believe this is where many of the problems originate.

Question to all, though-- will a single election cure the mess we're in (or succeed in at least making some constructive progress) or are these problems just too entrenched?

RP is 75, I doubt he has more than one term in him. but his son, if he can get his feet under him, could make a good president after him. by 2016-17 he'd be ready. it would take a multi-generational effort to see RP's ideas all the way through to fruition. 4 years is nothing..if the same old same old type of president came in after him, they could undo everything RP did in very short order. we'll see how it plays out.

reply to post by Ancient Champion

You do know that Ron Paul is a Republican don't you

Of course we know he is a Republican,. We also know any politician running on a third party ticket has about as much change of getting elected as Mickey Mouse.... Actually Mickey has a better chance

reply to post by Duamutef9

Placing the needs of fellow human beings over the rights of property owners places you in the position of having to answer the following questions...

I have found that there are three types of people who hate "property rights"

1. Those who have nothing and are too lazy to either work or improve themselves so they want THEIR share of the product of YOUR LABOR. (This is the real reason "Socialism" is popular)

2. The second are those born with so much wealth they feel guilty and again they want to give away a share of the product of YOUR LABOR to make them feel less guilty. (How come it is alway OUR labor and property that is the target )

Then of course the are the truly "Altruistic" but as Mencken, H. L. says

The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false face for the urge to rule it.

reply to post by kooloperator

The demographics have changed since the 60's...

Boy have they ever.

A couple years ago here in NC I used to hang with a group that contained a very politically active Libertarian, an active Socialist, three gays (one black) a couple more blacks and a bunch of red neck farmers. Never saw ANY racism. But I sure saw a heck of a lot of it in "Politically Correct" MA afew years before!

I do a lot of birthday party entertainment and I see mixed parties ALL the time here in NC (not in MA though...HMMmm) Only in the recent immigrant families are the parties not mixed. So I am afraid the "Racism" crap is just beating a dead horse.


Have you noticed since Obama has become President the old "Racism Card" is constantly being played so the real issues are never discussed???

I think Obama and his Democrat friends have done a heck of a lot in the last few years to set back race relations so they can continue to use it as a political weapon.

That puppy dog is getting really really tired and she just don't run any more. So why don't you let her R.I.P.

reply to post by seaside sky

Question to all, though-- will a single election cure the mess we're in (or succeed in at least making some constructive progress) or are these problems just too entrenched?

The problems and the stranglehold of the bankers is too entrenched. But we have to start somewhere. Unfortunately we have 100 years of Banker/Fabian Socialist brainwashing to content with.

From their own mouths: www.newworldencyclopedia.org...

Influence on Education: www.sodahead.com...

Bottom line, change is hard, and will hurt no matter how we look at it. Rons ideas just spearhead what needs to be done NOW in order to stop america from decaying any further. Sure, the occasional racist will still be a idiot and show his true colors, but he will pay for it in this day and age. Hell, i just watched the video of bible thumpers assaulting the Muslim gentleman outside the white house, so really whats the difference? they will still be the 15-18 percent thay have always been in our society, thankfully, most of us have long moved past the dark ages of racism. Take responsiblity for yourself, same goes for this country, and the rest WILL fall into place, Paul is 100% the last, best chance we have to save this great country before we go the way of Rome.
Jack in the Burg

With ron paul america has hope.