Ron Paul "I Have Medical Questions About Bin Laden's Death"

reply to post by JakeLeMaster


Excellent arguments in above video.
Wish I received this program.

Originally posted by JakeLeMaster
reply to post by ModernAcademia

 

Big respecter of Paul, but bin Laden has not been officially connected with 9/11 and he should not have been killed. Judge Napolitano's response is much better to the situation:

I agree....and also, they should revive the 1970's show " Have Gun's, Will Travel" and let obama play the part of Palidin....

I don't think we'll have a decent timeline for a few weeks, if ever. I saw today that they had a facial scan done initially that was 90 - 95 % match for geronimo, which was part of what encouraged obama to go public I believe

I wonder if the statements delay of nearly 45 minutes is from the scheduled 10:30 EST was related to getting the DNA confirmation

I also looked it up, and DNA comparisons can be done if about 4-5 hours, which matches the time line pretty well of the gap between the mission and the announcement

I didn't really appreciate his comment about being "into conspiracies," I found his demeanor on that question very off putting. His reaction in general to her question about him doubting the official story was upsetting to say the least. I thought Ron Paul would have no qualms about saying openly that he doubts such a ridiculous propaganda piece.

Respect level -1.

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Isn't Ron Paul an OB/GYN? I get that he's still a Doctor, but his specialty is uterus, not how quick the feds can get OBL's DNA sample. I would suspect that since they had his body, they got it pretty quick. The bottom line is, I can understand the skepticism regarding the situation but I believe that he is dead, and the government will prove it when they release the photographs. Not everything is a conspiracy, and I don't understand how it's so unbelievable that we caught this guy considering we've had massive tasks forces, loads of intelligence, and a highly trained strike force that deployed perfectly (as they were trained to) when this went down. Let's celebrate this victory for America.

I am a very liberal democrat, and I am tired of seeing the back and forth about "Obama got him" or "Bush helped". Both administrations played a role in this and both deserve some credit. Who deserves the most credit is no politician, it's the intelligence specialists who have no doubt spend 16 or 17 hour days over the last 10 years pouring over thousands of files and thousands of tips to catch one of the world's most elusive men. Who deserves the credit is the brave men and women who went into that compound and pulled off of the most precise maneuvers in recent US military history to bring an evil, destructive, and sick man to justice. Celebrate them, and celebrate being an American tonight. This is a victory for AMERICANS, not for Republicans, or Democrats, or Obama or Bush.

Mission accomplished. That's all that matters. We will never be able to fully bring justice for the 3000+ that were killed on 9/11. But at least with the death of the evil mastermind that planned it, we can finally bring to a close a open sore on America's history that has haunted us for the last 10 years. Let's just forget blue states and red states for one week and celebrate the fact that just as we have proven before, when America sets it's eyes on a goal, we achieve it, no matter how long it takes or how difficult that goal is. I am PROUD to be an American tonight. I hope you all can join me in feeling that pride as well. God Bless America.

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Thank you so much for the video.The Judge is very intelligent. I guess that is why he is the Judge but he also does not sugar coat things.

Yes Paul is very intelligent also. He is also smart enough to spin the truth with lies. Bin Laden was never tried so are we suppose to believe what comes out of Washington after so many false flags that have been confirmed. We heard he was the cause of 911 but nothing showed anything to prove that.

Ron Paul may be so smart he is just playing along to get along with his coworkers. He may know that if he starts telling the truth then he will be the next JFK, RFK, MLK, JFK jr and all the whistle blowers from the BP oil disaster. Not sure but I do like him more than anyone else running. The thing is WE do not vote for the President or at least not a real vote. The Presidents are Selected and not Elected. This is the main reason we will never see Ron Paul as President. The PTB will never allow someone who may just start speaking more truth instead of the mix he is speaking at this moment.

i'm sure the military doesn't use the same lab equipment some greedy for profit medical center uses.

and the reason dna takes so long is that it's a specialized field and samples have be flown around all over the country to get a complete profile.

i think the actual test, with multiple technicians and a known sample to compare with, wouldn't take more than a few hours.

you guys have it all wrong. the reason obamo's speech was late that night, was becuase he personally assissted in the raid and had his batscanner ready to test the dna.

obamo keeps dna records of all suspects, so all he needed was a hair sample, he plugged it into his batscanner, and then teleported back to dc for his speech declaring his win.

so if doctor ron paul wonders how the test happened so quick, he forgets obamo has qabbalistik magikal abilities. he can do anything, just ask all the sheep waving flags and shooting guns at this 'victory.'

Oh no Ron…. Ya can’t be into “conspiracies”… you know if you don’t believe the government then you’re one of those conspiracy kooks….

I like Ron but there’s only so far he can go in order to stay on the inside.

Ron Paul is very unorthodox and unconventional compared to the majority of partisan politicians. His views and rationale is too "extreme" as opposed to either of the party members. Actually Ron Paul is mean and median of the views of the majority of Americans, but the "outliers" of either party will turn the Bell Curve into an inverse with false ideologies, perspectives, and propaganda. And the sad truth of the matter is that most Americans will subscribe to inverse belief and not rationalize it or logically question; but will use fallacy to perpetuate an agenda which is much like any opposite view held by any majority.

When transparency is edited, filtered, digitized, and cleansed for publication under the guise of protecting or gate-keeping, the notion of it ceases to exist and the spirit of truth of transparency become more and more opaque. Any information can be filtered to output a desired result, which is very narrow to support not a general perspective but a specialized viewpoint, which most of the time, is not practical or has any bearing or use in the daily lives of the people. Question everything and believe nothing; for beliefs cannot be proven logically since they are of a first-principle, in-nature, and then we are back where we started from of asking a question, but then asking a question by reason of intelligence, not belief.

We cannot know every desire or intent of any human being at any given moment. We cannot assume that we know; we can only ask questions and make projections for assumptions with the information formed by data that we have currently. We must be willing to be detached to any projected assumption and be willing to adjust as new data and information is forthcoming. If we do not do this, we become biased and follow false ideologies to enforce false sociological perspectives which is the ruin of nations and eras. Freedom of information, the press, the beliefs in religions, expressions of thought and art, and freedom of will and spirit is the most important ascribed attributes a human being possesses which cannot be stripped or taken-away; and these are given and bestowed upon humanity by the Creator.

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I am not sure if I subscribe to this version. President Obama didn't look too happy from the look on his face, in the WH situation room.

Originally posted by no special characters
Obviously not a stupid guy this Ron Paul. Loved the way he averted being pushed into a conspiracy freak corner. Real tact and I hope he can stir up things if ever elected.

Unfortunately he doesn't have the looks or money so I think he won't make it into office.

You are right. He won't make it because he is a decent man. That doesn't get votes.
We want star power not talent, wisdom, judgment. We want our politicians to be "actors" who play the hero and they better look the part.

I've done DNA testing...It's quite fast. You take a sample *blood, skin, organ tissue, swab from the cheek inside your mouth*, apply a breaking down agent that isolates a certain section of dna, spin it in the centifuge and then run it through a gel electrophoresis and you have a result in no more than an hour depending on the length of the sequence. I did this for bio in high school and college for both sunflower seeds and human dna. So it's quite easy for the government to do this in a rapid fashion if they have a member of the bin Laden family willing to give them a cheek cell sample.

Originally posted by filosophia
Can someone verify if Ron Paul has seen loose change yet? I think someone really needs to send that into his inbox.

He basically says he is part of the doubters but if he doesn't make up his mind about this the neo-cons will run him through in 2012. If he believes in their lies they have the upper hand. I'm not bashing Ron Paul I'm just giving him some advice.

edit on 3-5-2011 by filosophia because: (no reason given)

Ron Paul is one of two candidates for the Presidency in 08 that is NOT a member of CFR. He is out of the loop of this fraudulent Presidency. Do the math. He doesn't know because he is not in on it.

Originally posted by trekwebmaster
reply to post by dantanna

 

I am not sure if I subscribe to this version. President Obama didn't look too happy from the look on his face, in the WH situation room.

Ha! I bet he didnt' want Osama to go bye bye for real. No one is talking about how the helicopter had something wrong with it(they don't even bother to tell us what went wrong) but the Seals did the job anyway.
Still, they sure do have some intense looks on their face. I have a hard time accepting Obama the Indonesian muslim wanting to off Osama like that, except that his pocketbook is more important than duty.

Originally posted by Tephra
I didn't really appreciate his comment about being "into conspiracies," I found his demeanor on that question very off putting. His reaction in general to her question about him doubting the official story was upsetting to say the least. I thought Ron Paul would have no qualms about saying openly that he doubts such a ridiculous propaganda piece.

Respect level -1.

Ron Paul is engaged in a very complicated political game. He is one of the few willing to say what he really thinks. He cannot always simply be like the ATS users and state it's a conspiracy, as he has to keep in consideration his political future.

I think he believes many things he will not say. He must be careful what he says though.

When it comes to Ron Paul, I have much respect.

To be completely honest though I hope that he never gains the support of the MSM because if he does it could possibly ruin his political future (at least in my eyes). The fact that he hasn't made his way into the main-stream lends credence to this man and his beliefs. This fact in itself can be seen as a conspiracy.

I know that many people on this site want to see him break into the MSM but I honestly don't want to see this and want to see him win the U.S. presidency purely through word of mouth in a grass-roots fashion.

There...I said it. I've been wanting to say this for a long time now!

Sorry if this seems off-topic but I had to speak up.

Peace,

AS