Originally posted by crkking
reply to post by aboveATS
Its called being a man. In doing so you accept certain unwritten responsibilities, to protect and defend those that cannot. Of course self
preservation is important, but If I can die saving others or, I'll opt for honor.
Right....../sarcasm. Being a man has nothing to do with being a Matriarchal slave. I could understand sacrificing ones life for a child or for
another human being, but the inherently gendered aspect I find disturbing.
For starters I couldn't help but noticing most of those enthusiastic Matriarchal slaves types come from the South. I have been worked in the
hotel business for a few years and met people from different walks of life and regions.
One thing I noticed is Southern women tend to wear the pants and look down on men in general(I see it time and time again with Southerners around the
Tennessee/surrounding states. Heck I see it with my bro-in law that is an anglo american[actually I only ever seen the extreme side as advocated by
the guy above in anglo's..]).
It is kind of like how sometimes people will ignore, look down on women when asking for directions or something similar but reversed.
Kind of like in Star Trek Deep Space 9 with the Skrreean people. Also I think it is bad and dangerous in a society that strives for equality
for males to show deference to women as a matter of cultural norms. Because all it leads to is a situation where in order to compensate for being
second class citizens, males begin to perceive manhood as some kind of extreme macho-ism. I see it again with men from the South. This one southern
guy couldn't get the key card to work so began a rant of "what a dump" and other insults while I calmly tried to explain to him how to get it to work
and in the end I had to open the door for him(and he had a macho "I don't want the key" type attitude because he couldn't be man enough to admit he
To me manhood and other gendered constructs are for inferior people. Some people just can't get beyond their biological limitations. I could
understand some chauvinism towards a woman you loved(also in reverse from a womans perspective), but deference to all women? no way.
This isn't the 1800's anymore and there is over 6 billion people on the planet. That is the problem with our society, women have boatloads of
rights but no meaningful responsibilities(+ it leaves the door open for traditionalist's to pull back women's rights). And without meaningful
responsibilities some people can't really reach their full growth potential. Society still treats women as perpetual children.
Think about that last sentence, because that is where the mindset of "women and children" came from. The fact that back then women where legally
and socially viewed as perpetual children. Thus a man, a human being viewed as an adult was expected to sacrifice their lives for those viewed as
As for me? I prefer to stick with human ideals. Man or woman, it doesn't really matter. We all have the capacity for good and evil in us. We all have
the capacity to become more then what we are.
edit on 1-5-2011 by korathin because: there for their error