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Originally posted by Blaine91555
Originally posted by alphabetaone
The only thing I want to add to that is, that even though all generations have visited this phenomena in their life, I have yet to see where a generation wants to actually erode constitutional rights in their fervor to push their agenda. In fact, it's always been somewhat the opposite; fighting FOR them.
It's in no small part an offshoot of the Previous and current Obama campaigns. You need only look at who he has surrounded himself with and who he has associated with. Obama is too young to be one of the organizers, but was clearly taken fully under their wings.
I'm used to people not agreeing with my moderate stance. Moderates are always like a Yo-Yo between the two radical sides. We look to common sense and critical thinking instead of going with one side or the other. It maddens some we can't be pegged into a hole on the Right or the Left.
I expect to see things like is in this thread often until the next election. Obama is clearly placing his main hope in manipulating the young crowd as they are easier to fool. It's all about dividing us to control us and both sides have their ways of doing that. With Obama it's pitting the young against the old, rich against poor and then scaring Seniors.
I'm not surprised that we Independents are now the majority, nor am I surprised that the older the age group, the more likely they are to be Independent.
The problem with idea's and ideals like the concept of a global government, progressiveness, socialism and even communism is that on their face they sound like good idea's and they are. Problem is once you add in the Human Factor, they fall on their face. None of those idea's work because when you make it possible to survive without participating or being productive, to often the Human Animal will take the route of apathy. To young minds the idea of something for nothing sounds great. The idea of hard work and going the extra mile not so good.
We saw the end result of a society like they think they want as the Soviet's collapsed. Young Progressive have the view of history that it is not a lesson to learn from, but that these idea's failed in the past because they were not implemented right. Due to that, history has no meaning to a Progressive. In a way Narcissism is a must to even be a Progressive.
We have right now a bad point of view regarding young people that is unrealistic in fact. It's a fact that the Frontal Lobe does not even fully develop until about the age of 25. In reality it would be a more sensible idea to limit voting to those over that age, contrary to the nonsense in this thread. But then logic has left the building in this new PC world and the bad folk are taking great advantage of the nonsense.
Next the see-saw will go the other way as it appears to be a fact of life. A Progressive generation will produce Conservative offspring and then the pendulum will swing the other way again. Young adults will always take the side of rebellion and I think it is genetically hardwired into us. It's likely a survival tool that it is this way. If one side gains too much control for too long it would be likely a bad thing.
According to a study from Harvard University , almost 4 million 25-to-34 year olds are still living with their parents after graduating.
It’s a trend that’s increasing in popularity. According to the New York Times , 65 percent of college graduates are moving back home, compared to 53 percent just five years ago.
These boomerang kids are what social scientists have dubbed the phenomenon “adultolescense,” a period following college that can last five or more years.
Originally posted by Maslo
And those who take from the common pool for long time having the same deciding right about it as someone who provides money into the common pool is not right. Thats just basic justice.
Democracy has nothing to do with the right choices. It has to do with the popular choices.
The biggest argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with the average voter.
Aristotle defined six different political systems: monarchy, aristocracy, constitutional government, democracy, oligarchy and tyranny. He was no fan of democracy: 'A democracy is a government in the hands of men of low birth, no property and vulgar employments.' The best political system, he said, was rule by a single wise ruler, followed by aristocracy (rule by a group of wise people), then constitutional government (a stable mixture of democracy and oligarchy). The worst forms of government were the mirror images of these three. So the worst political regime of all was a tyranny, where a single bad person wielded absolute power. Second worst was an oligarchy where a few corrupt individuals governed in their own interests. The third worst was the type of democracy which Aristotle regarded as practically the same as ochlocracy (government by the mob, the rabble).