Stephen Harper seeks majority to dissolve Canada in favor of North American Union

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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:07 PM
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Good god!

Why is this still going?

HARPER CAN NOT SIGN AWAY CANADIAN SOVERIEGNTY!

HARPER CAN NOT STOP A COALITION GOVERNMENT FROM TAKING HIS POWER!

These are both items that require...REQUIRE...the GG's signature...NOT HARPER's!

If Harper wanted to be able to actually do this, he would need to ammend the Canadian Constitution, which requires a minimum of 50% of Canada's population's consent via PROVINCIAL LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITIES.

He would require either Ontario or Quebec to back him 100%...it is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!




posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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Interesting thread. I've got to study Canada's government more and understand it.

I doubt this is a serious issue, but if it were to happen, as far as the people it's impossible to tell us apart for the most part. People and our lives are very much alike, so no real problem there from reasonable people.

We maintain our own cultural differences by each State having it's various rights now. That is one of our biggest problems here is the crowd that want's to usurp States rights. I might even move to the State of Yukon


I don't really know how I would feel about this personally. Not much would change in our lives I think. This discussion is interesting in that even if Canada wished to do this, I think the chances are slim our government would. Takes two to Tango.

I'd think a better option would be to have an open border with Canada. It should be that way now. What differences we have don't extend to such extreme cultural differences that it would matter anyway. The only place I've seen any evidence of U.S. Haters in Canada was in White Horse, in the Yukon. They were mostly upset about our environmental nuts taking away their jobs and we hate them too. We could make fun of them together.

Perhaps that woman I talked to in Yukon, who was convinced that the U.S. was completely devoid of trees could come here and see how badly she was misinformed. I still won't like Yukon Jack however


I did meet a man in Sams Club one day that was a Canadian who was living and working here in Anchorage. He went off on a rant about how Alaska is part of Canada and he was not in the U.S.. Funny guy
He overlooked the fact Alaska was purchase from Russia, not Canada but hey, to each his own.

Ignore me. I'm trying to make light of the handful of angry people in the US and Canada who hate each other. I've always been treated well when crossing Canada. Even made friends with an America hating crowd in a bar in White Horse while they informed me how horrible we are. Oddly they did not know I'm fairly typical for someone from the rural western states here and since they liked me, they would like most of us. I agree about the rude crowd from the east coast though. They are way to angry and arrogant for me also.
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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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Funny, there seems to be a whole lot of propaganda drifting around about Canadian healthcare as well.

Maybe it has a lot to do with American's not wanting Canadian healthcare and Canadians not wanting American healthcare...but, both suffering from idiots in power that want to change it...go figure.

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"If you have an ailment that will kill you in 6 months better get to America"...why would a Canadian want to do that? Most Canadians that go south, go for 2 reasons.

Reason 1) The treatment is not available in Canada. Both countries have different standards boards. Many Canadian will travel south to partake in more 'experimental' (not good or bad, just not as tested) treatments that are not allowed in Canada.

Reason 2) Impatience. Now, this is not impatience for the vast (and I do mean vast) majority over CRITICAL treatments. These are mostly people that don't want to weight 6-12 months for a hip replacement. Or in my father-in-laws case, a knee replacement. Canadian healthcare is entirely based on urgency...which is why issues that, although painful, are not life threatening will be put off to provide service for those who are critical.
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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:11 PM
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If the FTA was this strongly debated there would be even more debate and opposition to what the OP posted and Quebec would be gone in flash, they will NEVER join USA, they are almost a different country within Canada itself.


The debate in Canada over whether to implement the negotiated agreement was very contentious. The opposition Liberal Party of Canada under leader John Turner vociferously opposed the agreement, saying that he would "tear it up" if he were Prime Minister. The opposition New Democratic Party under leader Ed Broadbent also strongly opposed the agreement. Both parties objected that the agreement would erode Canadian sovereignty, arguing that Canada would effectively become the "51st state" of the U.S. if the agreement was implemented.




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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:11 PM
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You're right they wouldn't have been able to implement this plan 30-60 years ago when the World war Veterans were in their Prime. Now that most of them are old and senile ( No offense to old people). The elites can usher in their next big step of Fascism and Global Corpratocracy. To take over the Resources as Canada.

Not like our Resources and most of are land isn't already Owned by the Queen like the one Person already stated Earlier in the Thread the Crown Land owned by the Queen of course. Where did you think all our resources and money was going from our HUGE natural resources my fellow Canadians. Guess what...

Were paying 1.35 cents a litre way more than the states is paying at around .99 cents a litre. We supply America with around 20-25% of their Oil in the past few years Go figure EH?

Then look at the huge amount of natural products we export and crops where is all that money going yes you guessed it The QUEEN Rotchshilds Bankers. Britian AKA our Royal Leaders. The World Headquarters for the NWO along with Rome And Washington The plan is ready to be initiated Harper just needs the Majority.

Harper will commit Treason by signing Canada over to the United states we will have to see if the Queen allows this or has already nodded the sign of approval. Get Ready because. Many will die protesting the NEW WORLD ORDER when it arrives. The World will rise up and fight it many will be killed, many will be jailed. It will be just like the Dystopia in 1984 where everyone is a serf and the Elites -Royal Blood line Control the Entire world that is the Agenda and so many people have their head in the sand.

Everyone is watching and cares more about American Idol than the Elections itself or they care more for the Royal wedding. I for one will not be voting because there is no good party to vote for like many other Canadians state here they are all corrupt scum bags.

We will be sold out by our Friend Harper in Government REMEMBER G 20 FOREVER ; the Army , Police (Gestapo) will get their Fat paycheques in Canada most police make 3 times the normal average Canadian makes. Just like in the G20 Gestapo Thugs will enforce laws that don't exist or new laws that will be enacted and Canadians will wonder what happened to our Country we will realise we have beeen duped and sold out to the INTERNATIONAL BANKING CARTEL , IMF, UN, and the Corporations. The Governments are corrupt to the highest degree. The G20 was just the beginning of Harpers Police Gestapo. It will not end there.

Get ready for the Initiation of the NWO IT WILL COME AND MANY WILL OPPOSE IT RISE UP CANADIANS WILL WE RESIST THEM!.

MANY think the NWO is a good thing; it could be a good thing but it is not a good thing in the way the elites will have it because they will usher the NWO in and all its policies will become for the Elites The Richest of the Rich. They will rule of the Earth with an Iron Fist and anyone who does not comply will be silenced.

This is not a good thing because of the Ramifications of the Compiled Interests of the Elites in power they are out to destroy the middle class and everyone will become the slaves. Controlled by the POLICE, ARMY (GESTAPO)
That will get their fat Pay Cheques to herd the SHEEPLE. Do you not see the MIND CONTROL going on. Over the past Decades it has become clear that the Public is not interested one bit in the policies or politics anymore because the Elite have become smart enough to Cause diverions

AKA the Entertainment Industry which has done a fine job because the NWO is almost complete and it will happen right in-front of our eyes When the MSM reports NWO IN THE WORKS AND ALL THE SHEEPLE WILL PRAISE IT because they are too scared to rise up against it because they have learned all their life to become SUB-SERVENT TO THE MACHINE.

When you wake up and realise the Dream comes true you will be too late to change it because the POLICE,ARMY(GESTAPO) will shoot you when you come up in protest the NWO.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by peck420
HARPER CAN NOT SIGN AWAY CANADIAN SOVERIEGNTY!
HARPER CAN NOT STOP A COALITION GOVERNMENT FROM TAKING HIS POWER!
These are both items that require...REQUIRE...the GG's signature...NOT HARPER's!

If Harper wanted to be able to actually do this, he would need to ammend the Canadian Constitution, which requires a minimum of 50% of Canada's population's consent via PROVINCIAL LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITIES.

He would require either Ontario or Quebec to back him 100%...it is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!


Assuming this is true (I'm not going to bother researching this crap), there's nothing to worry about then.

Just another liberal that wants attention. Iirc wasn't there a Canadian politician last year that said he was a Martian?

Welcome to the age of Obama. Liberals and smooth talkers will come from the woodworks the world over.




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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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One thing I noticed there that bothered me a lot, is that I could not just pull off the side of the road in the wooded areas in the Yukon and camp. Made that mistake and a Mountie let me know you have to go to a campground and pay. Seemed like no access to enjoy that land. You don't have genuine publicly owned land do you? It's all owned by the Queen or some silliness?



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by MasonicFantom
Assuming this is true (I'm not going to bother researching this crap), there's nothing to worry about then.


No need for research at all.

Here is the link to the government supported and built site for the Governor General.
The link is to the page that specifically outlines the GG's authority.

Governor General

Edit to add:


The Letters Patent Constituting the Office of the Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada, 1947 authorize the governor general of Canada to exercise powers and responsibilities belonging to the Sovereign, with the advice of members of the Privy Council. The governor general is non-partisan and non-political.


Quoted from source.
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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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As much as I dislike the Conservative government at this time, this thread smells oddly like scare tactics. This is coming from someone who's still voting against a Conservative MP come May.

But, for the sake of discussion, and because history loves repeating itself, I'll admit that perhaps this is a possibility. If so, perhaps this could become a situation met with armed insurrection. With best wishes for both Canadian and American civilians and army-folk, I hope that this does not come to pass.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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I vehemently despise that p.o.s. and everything he stands for, with every single atom in my body!!!!! In my opinion, he's the worst thing to happen to Canada in a generation. Yet I'm sure he'll get his damn majority and I'm sure he'll hand away our sovereignty the minute he gets it. That and much worse!



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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It's all for the Global Corporate Government - with the EU, NAU and Asian states.

All hail Mulroney, Harper and Bush(es).


PS. Check out the terms of NAFTA - everything including information is defined as a commodity for trade, and subject to the terms of international trade. Secrecy and non-transparency are mandated by the agreement. It's a back door.



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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Darkmask
This is a bunch of BS. It will never happen. Sounds like a bunch of pre-election propaganda to me. The U.S. is going down the tubes economically, Canada is going strong. It would make no sense for this to happen. Canadians are not like Americans, we won't stand for crap from our government. We have the most natural resources in the world and we wont just give them away to the greedy U.S.

I'll say it again, It will never happen


We supply the U.S with 20-25% of their oil and our gas is 1.35 a litre at the pumps ATM. U.S average is 95-1.05 Litre at their pumps; Pardon Say Again. We've sold ourselves out Not to Mention Britian owns Most of Canadas Land FYI Crown Land is owned by you guessed it the Royal Family Aka Queen.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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aw come on...you canucks know you want to take on the debt with us...come on!!



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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Isn't this a kind of incest? You're using one conspiracy web site's propaganda on another conspiracy web site for propaganda purposes. The whole thing is ludicrous.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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Sure there are Canadians who seek treatment down in the states but it's only because there are more specialists down there, not because our health care is inferior. The only people who might want Canada's health care system to fail is the doctors because they can't make as much as their American counterparts. That's not to say that they still don't make a whole crap load of money. People are greedy. What ever happened to people wanting to become doctors to help their fellow man, not to fill their pockets?

Sad world we live in.




posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by soficrow
reply to post by silo13
 


It's all for the Global Corporate Government - with the EU, NAU and Asian states.

All hail Mulroney, Harper and Bush(es).


PS. Check out the terms of NAFTA - everything including information is defined as a commodity for trade, and subject to the terms of international trade. Secrecy and non-transparency are mandated bu the agreement. It's a back door.



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You Forgot Mc Guinty.... Just saying...


Check out my comment on this thread here it also helps expose him

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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You took the words out of my mouth this whole agenda is about having the power in the hands of a few elite. Its just that so many are ignorant to the reality of the fact. The ramifications of the truth are too hard for them to comprehend

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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You should go back to school.

No, I'm not insulting you. I'm saying in the last few decades the purpose of Canadian universities has changed, from supplying people with education to simply giving people a quasi-justification. Students don't go to school to become smarter, and then work to help others or follow their passions, they go their to get a piece of paper that employers look at in order for them to get the highest possible pay.

What this means is that we have about 2 decades' worth of doctors who only became doctors to get their Lamborghinis, mansions, and surround-sound systems.

Hopefully, this trend will end. Hopefully.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Danbones
SandF Silo.
We in Canada are a constitutional monarchy
the Us is owned by the same monarchy through the Fed and similar..

I'm thinking since Harper is a proven Bilderberger stooge
and all the other proven stooges have been on the the same page,
and since the docs have been exposed - a corporate take over ...

after his comments on Israel first
I have no doubt Harper will sell Canada out first chance he gets to finish the job..



Thank you i'm glad someone else Realised the Truth Did you know the Rothschilds are close friends with the Queen? They are in it together they own the Central Banks. The money loaned out by the Central banks is loaned out to said country with interest; make money profit is their motto. They've been doing it for 2 centuries.


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Exactly what good will the doctors do when they are just prescribing medication by the PHARAM corps. Thats what most of them do anyways except for the Surgeons. They have sold us out my uncle Co-Ceos a pharma corp here in CANADA i know how it works they don't care if the drug heals you or not its about who can lobby the government enough to get their drugs on the shelf who cares about the side-effects.
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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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LOL! Just because they call it crown land doesn't mean the Queen owns it. The Queen doesn't own anything in Canada, She is just a figurehead.

The reason our gas prices are higher is because we have more taxes added. I myself don't mind paying more taxes if it means we can avoid the kind of obscene debt the U.S. has.





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