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Forget the Birth Certificate! Wheres the Proof He Even Existed?

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posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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seriously!?! If race or name origins where a prob. he wouldn't be president to begin with! Stop your hateful race this and race that crap......you are just adding to the division between people!




posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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You're way off. He was born in Kenya. Here is his birth certificate.




posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
forget the birth certificate forget this thread

just vote him out in 2012 problem solved.



easier said then done....they switched to electronic voting....can you say rigged?



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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this almost word for word from a post @ Snopes.com.


www.snopes.com...



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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I'm a skeptic. Let's go ahead and leave partisanship out of this, as this issue is not about left vs right for me. It's about transparency and the fact that this man stated himself that people who have nothing to hide, hide nothing. As I've stated before...noone would spend millions to seal records if there wasn't information that could be damaging to him or others for that matter.

On the other hand, I could be completely wrong and I'm okay with that too. However, if he has nothing to hide, he should fear nothing about opening up the information that people are so desperately seeking right now. I sort of feel like he owes us that much.

So what gives?



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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Proof that he even ever existed? Would you like video proof that he exists? Photographic proof? I am sure I can even dig up audio. Witnesses who have seen him in person,perhaps even one of the cigarettes he used to smoke


Seriously though. In my opinion, the man is legit. Don't get me wrong, I am growing to dislike him as president more and more, but he is legal to be the president.... He presented a birth certificate. Not the long form apparently, but it seems that this is not what is required by congress as proof.

He has a passport.... And from what I understand you do have to show long form in order to get one.I have been hearing that from birthers lately. So, that means to me, that at one point he did have a long form BC.

I don't know, but I do feel confident that if he did whip out his long form,there would still be people who claim it is fake.There would be people who say, it must be fake otherwise he would have shown it right away. I feel this way, because I see,that it was investigated by the US government before he was elected,to make sure he could run legally.

But that was ignored by some people. They say it's not proof of anything. The state of Hawaii speaks up, says they have investigated and that he is a citizen of the united states... Some people decided they were lying or wrong.

Countless other people have investigated yet were unable to find any real evidence ( speculation is not evidence) that he was not a citizen.Yet some people keep going.

While I do admire the persitance, even the so called birthers must take a step back sometimes and think to themselves 'Really?'.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by whitl103
Just as with most things, if you shave off the left and the right there will be some truth in the middle. Very rarely do I see an unbiased person asking for answers to inconsequential details like wedding party members and the like, nor do I see an unbiased person posting a couple articles they Googled for the purpose of shutting down the topic.


So, you ignore anyone whom uses google because thats too simple?
in order for someone to respond unbias in this thread, they would have to personally flipped the ticket and done interviews with old friends in hawaii?

rationality...your doing it wrong


Haha, oh goodness...

"For the purpose of shutting down the topic." It's generally pretty obvious if someone's approach is to find truth or to squash an idea. You're doing the typical false dilemma distraction from what I'm actually trying to say. If you're going for rationality, then you should know that we both know interviews with old friends in Hawaii is a step too far.

Go ahead and Google every reasonably pertinent question posed about Obama's secrecy. Compile one list. It doesn't even have to be that long. I won't ignore it.

Given the amount of time you're spending on this thread, I question which of us is the irrational one.


Have fun being condescending and continuing to miss the point...you're doing it right.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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You're starting to sound like a broken record.
Can you try to get some new material.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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hackers of the world unite then



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:57 PM
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And further did you know that the religion of Islam and Christianity have the SAME roots. Oh yes they both sprang from the religion of the people of the God of Abraham. You know, Noahs dad's God. Oh shock, oh horror say it isnt true.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by whitl103
Given the amount of time you're spending on this thread, I question which of us is the irrational one.



Ahh, I am just here because its a hoot.
I mean, seriously, we are knee deep in crazy and its a blast to see the people wearing a shower cap and clown pants swinging a toilet brush around demanding zombie ninja's are living in their eyes.

sorry, but you simply can't pass up such an opportunity to watch such rampant (willful) insanity.

Thats why I am here overall.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by karen61057
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Impossible since the republicans are stating the BS and the democrats are showing valid information. The line was drawn with the opening post.

BTW I just know you came in through the right hand door didnt you?


More division quotes! GEEZ.....RIGHT THIS.....LEFT THAT....repub. this....democrate...that, WHATEVER it's all of them!!! People need to open their eyes and unite and stop this childish bickering....if he would just show the darn REAL proof it would all be said and done!



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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I'm glad that my life isn't so boring that I become obsessed with something as silly as this subject. Or maybe it is related to paranoia? Either way, it is both sad and funny to watch.

I don't like Obama, didn't vote for him, but you folks need medication.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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You may not realize this so I will explain. Hawaii had what we would call today a real "open door" policy during 1940-60. Meaning, there were many undocumented births (mostly from asia, hince the high asian population there today) during this time in which people from all over the world showed up with their children stating they need certification for their son/daughter who was just born, to prove citizenship. Hawaii being the welcoming and liberal state it is, were more than happy to help issue out all needed documentation. Hearning this, even if it was only half true, which its not, ask any local historian, lead me to believe that its possible that our current president could have slipped in with his parents as a baby and obtain documentation illegitimately.

Food for thought.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Savage206
this almost word for word from a post @ Snopes.com.


www.snopes.com...


Oh that's beautiful man.... good find. So when is the banning party? I'll bring the beer and chips....



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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You are really on today! I'm trying so hard to get my work done, but I can't wait to see your next zinger.



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by dizzie_lizzie79

Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by freakjive
 


Impossible since the republicans are stating the BS and the democrats are showing valid information. The line was drawn with the opening post.

BTW I just know you came in through the right hand door didnt you?


More division quotes! GEEZ.....RIGHT THIS.....LEFT THAT....repub. this....democrate...that, WHATEVER it's all of them!!! People need to open their eyes and unite and stop this childish bickering....if he would just show the darn REAL proof it would all be said and done!


Yes, why can't both left and right simply unite and erm...hate the left and create nonsense arguments to debase the left

its totally non-partisan..both sides want to slander the left...see...

-headslaps...notes the toilet brush-



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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Right because on the day he was born someone in Kenya said hey this young man is gonna be President of the United States one day we better put an announcement in the news papers in Hawaii so that someday when they ask where he was born we can show them that. Yeah that makes perfect sense to me too. NOT



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
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You're way off. He was born in Kenya. Here is his birth certificate.



Oh this is the one that was proven a hoax after Orly Taitz showed it to everyone.

EVERYONE KNOWS THIS


Orly Taitz, an attorney from California and a leader in the birther movement, claims to have released Barack Obama's birth certificate from Mombasa, Kenya. Obama's Kenyan birth certificate shows that Barack Obama was born at the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa Kenya in 1961. Unfortunately, the Kenyan birth certificate released by Orly Taitz is a fake. Coast General Hospital, on the birth certificate, is listed as being located in Mombasa Kenya. But Mombasa did not become part of Kenya until 1963. Mombasa was part of Zanzibar when Obama was born. Are you sad that Barack Obama's Kenyan birth certificate is fake?


That B.C. can't be real if Mombasa was not even part of Kenya until 1963.

LOL

edit on 20-4-2011 by mudbeed because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 20 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Savage206
this almost word for word from a post @ Snopes.com.


www.snopes.com...


I guess the next thread will be the old spam about the father teaching his son about socialism verses capitalism and put it as if the ops just did this.

I wonder if the right even writes their own material, or if they hire some liberal arts student to formulate the spam for them so they can rehash over and over for years on end as if they just wrote it freehand. Surely after 2 years, they could have written something else...



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