Will todays kids ever know a Natural Blue Sky? (Chemtrails), page 1
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reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:11 PM by Rohdan
here is actual scientific evidence for chemtrails being a phenomen existing in your dreams.
once again...contrailscience
I think you people want the world to be that bad. that's sick.

can sombody finally answer me this question: how are the bad conspiracy leaders protecting themselves from breathing the poisoned air?


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:17 PM by GummB
reply to post by Rohdan



I've said it before and i'll say it again

Do you not think, just maybe that those CONTRAILS are forming along with clouds because the conditions are right for a cloud to form. Therefor the clouds would have formed either way, and the water vapour and other crap also hang around like a cloud because they were in the right conditions. You fly a jet a couple thousand feet above or below and the conditions change.

then you get people asking why every jet doesn't form a consistent trail?

Lets think about it, you along with every other "believer" just knows very very little about planes, fuel, combustion, the atmosphere, or cloud formation.

btw don't act like weather modification is a secret, or crop spraying; because we all know it's not

prove me wrong
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reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:21 PM by cloudwatcher
reply to post by deprogrammer



I'm hearing ya. Here in the great USofA it happens daily. Just today when driving down the road my kids and I were talking about it, as we watched them spraying in the clear blue skies. That was 3 hours ago and now you can see the overcast that it leaves. My children are teens and are very aware of it. We can actually see normal contrails from other planes at the same time and watch them dissipate, but the chem trails stay and spread out like a blanket!


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:23 PM by GummB
reply to post by cloudwatcher



read my above post and PROVE ME WRONG
please and thank you

and please do that before you teach your children to fear the sky and the government


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:28 PM by Rohdan
reply to post by deprogrammer



If I would make a thread with 30 videos of the blue skies in my area this still wouldn't be "proof" for you. you're not even willing to read the stuff on contrailscience cause you're trapped in your belief.

that's why I say you would be dissapointed if finnaly somebody debunked your chemtrails.

you are providing a video showing planes and contrails. you conclude a wild conspiracy theory.

some guys on this forum are experts and they often say that there are no such things as "chemtrails". you do not believe them either.

and don't complain about me using a website for "proving" you wrong. if only rocket scientists were allowed to post here it would be kinda silent on ATS.

GummB, I'm not sure if I get you right.


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:29 PM by deprogrammer
reply to post by GummB



Jet planes are not a new phenomena...around 2000 onwards ..the chemtrails were clearly visible

and for goodness sake! they are part of an exercise operation from high altitude Jets

and not jetliners ....can`this fact... sink in in to the debunkers 'left brain limited mentality'?

these are not jetliners ,, watch the video below ...
and the flightpath in this video and the lies from the met office

www.disclose.tv...


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:32 PM by russ1969
reply to post by deprogrammer



More Planes in the air means more trails. So when did people all of the sudden decide that it was an attack on us?

Let me ask you a question. Lets say your right and they are spraying us with chem,s. Did you not stop to think that the same people you accuse of this, have to breath the same air you do. So why would they do that to themselves or their Families.

So what you are saying is that they are killing us and themselves. Do they know something we dont? And they are just doing us and themselves a favor by killing us slowly?

Come on! Think people. Yes the world is seeing a change. And yes governments do bad things. But this is just an asinine Notion.

The more i hear people speak these days, The more i see how doomed we are. And i am not perfect. I have held some beliefs that now are just insane and so far fetched, I now see how stupid they are.

There are far more problems we should be facing and figuring out a solution. The bottom line is that no matter what any of us believe in, Change is here and we all better get a grip and deal with it.



reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:34 PM by Rohdan
reply to post by deprogrammer



disclose TV is not a reliable source!!!!!!! it's their job to feed the nut cases. and you asking the debunkers for proof is the wrong way. if you come up with a theory then you gotta come up with proof.

proof that is not there. cause it's all a fake and fearmongering story that keeps the conspiracy business running. we're talking money here....


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:34 PM by vjr1113
Originally posted by deprogrammer
reply to
post by GummB



Jet planes are not a new phenomena...around 2000 onwards ..the chemtrails were clearly visible

and for goodness sake! they are part of an exercise operation from high altitude Jets

and not jetliners ....can`this fact... sink in in to the debunkers 'left brain limited mentality'?

these are not jetliners ,, watch the video below ...
and the flightpath in this video and the lies from the met office

www.disclose.tv...



those are CONtrails...i don't know how you can tell there's poisonous chemicals in them. in a sense they are pollutants, but theres no mustard gas in them.

to op: i think clear night skies are more important that clear days because they're so much more beautiful.
down with light pollution!


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:38 PM by GummB
reply to post by Rohdan



my apologies i have had this argument far to many times and it can now come out rushed and frustrated, and overall unclear

I agree with you, these "believers" don't read or respond to any post that they don't agree with. We just get constant pictures of the sky and planes with no proof of anything.

What I don't personally understand is how they can think the clouds are forming because of the supposed chemtrail, would the contrail not form into a cloud if it was in the same spot that other clouds in the sky were forming. A cloud doesn't form at every hight, only under certain conditions, and planes don't all fly at the same hight or follow the same path. So logically would a plane not eventually fly through what we could call the goldilock zone of cloud formation and its trail of smoke and water vapour would also form into somewhat of a cloud. Other planes are flying where clouds aren't forming and therefor their contrail evaporates much more quickly.

It seems logical to me, but no one can respond or better yet debunk my theory

GummB

if this is still gibberish let me know lol, again sorry chemtrailers just get me riled up

add... I've had that we all breath the same air argument too, but they never respond or else have completely outrageous explanations
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reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:40 PM by Clearskies
Originally posted by russ1969
reply to
post by deprogrammer



Let me ask you a question. Lets say your right and they are spraying us with chem,s. Did you not stop to think that the same people you accuse of this, have to breath the same air you do. So why would they do that to themselves or their Families.

So what you are saying is that they are killing us and themselves.


How often do you see the 'elite' walking around with everyday people? They can have their cars, planes, offices and homes equiped with air filters, which they do. BTW, when Bush came near here and was upwind a few years ago, the haze was ZERO. No spraying that time!

Oh and here's something about a different health problem from pollution;
health.usnews.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">this
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reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:44 PM by GummB
reply to post by Clearskies



we'll the elite are quite unknown are they not. I mean we refer to them only as TPTB because we know nothing else. And by conspiracy theory bush and obama are just puppets of TPTB. but you already know that
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reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:44 PM by Rohdan
Originally posted by GummB
reply to
post by Rohdan



.....
Other planes are flying where clouds aren't forming and therefor their contrail evaporates much more quickly.

It seems logical to me, but no one can respond or better yet debunk my theory


seems logical to me too now . thanks

every single "proof" for chemtrails like aluminium in the air or their favorite sentece "it wasn't like this in the 80s" makes me wanna cry. it has been disproven many, many times but the chemtrailers still have video proof.

and mr. believer...in case you missed it : how are the leaders protecting themselves from breating the bad stuff they bring out to reduce us?


reply posted on 12-3-2011 @ 02:52 PM by russ1969
reply to post by Clearskies



So, give me a list of names. You know, The elite you speak of. The problem is you cant. You are saying they dont walk around among people. I think you are reaching here. First you must show who " they" are? Do you know ?

Bush came and was standing downwind? lol. Was that just incase there was some lingering chemical still around? Because you said they didnt spray the sky that day. So was he just being causious?

People should think about what they are saying before they say it. As you can see i dont post much. But sometimes i read things and cant help to chime in and try to show how unreasonable it is.

If you can give me better reasoning, Then i am all ears. Please change my mind and show me something that makes sense.
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