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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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Hi - glad to hear you were back today, and thanks for all your nspiring posts.

Given how initially critical the Japanese government were of TEPCO, remember the days when even they were expressing concern and suspicion about TEPCOs info, you may have thought they'd be happy to get an independent report...oh but then look at the can of worms, they and all other governments would be forced to discuss the next level of "issues" and make all their figures stack up about plume projections and effectes on wildlife/food-chains.

If that transcript that I posted a little earlier (p805/6?) is anything to go by, it appears most other governments and bodies are at present sitting back and giving Japan/TEPCO the space they have requested to try and sort out their short term priorities and hazards. I'd be surprised to see much movement on this kind of thing for some time yet.

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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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Thankyou for reading my request.
what was the time stamp on the notice you got ?


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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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I got the time stamp of the sight link you provided thanks.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Destinyone
Say it ain't so...



Greenpeace marine radiation monitoring blocked by Japanese government

Press release - April 28, 2011



Tokyo, Japan, 28 April 2011 – The Japanese Government has refused to grant Greenpeace permission to carry out independent radiation monitoring within the country’s 12 mile territorial waters, approving only a much more limited programme further out to sea.

The organisation’s flagship, the Rainbow Warrior, arrived outside Tokyo today, enroute to site of the stricken Fukushima nuclear complex. Greenpeace submitted a comprehensive research plan to the Japanese Ministry of Food and Agriculture including testing beyond that being carried out by the government (1). While permission has been granted to test seawater, sediment and sea life, the most important research within the 12 mile limit is being blocked (2).



“It is critical that Greenpeace is allowed to test marine life, and to conduct monitoring in the coastal areas most at risk from sea water contamination from the Fukushima plant” said Junichi Sato, Greenpeace Japan Executive Director. “This is about providing independent and transparent information that will help people to protect both their health and livelihoods”.

So far Greenpeace has carried out independent land based monitoring and published all of the results (3), which have been greeted with considerable appreciation by local officials and members of the public. In order to get a more complete picture marine based monitoring is vital.

“We need to extend our research (4) into the marine environment Japan relies upon so heavily to feed itself”, said Ike Teuling, Greenpeace radiation expert aboard the Rainbow Warrior. “It has been almost two months since this crisis began and there is still not enough information in the public domain, or enough safety measures in place to protect the health of the population.”

“We have been working closely with the authorities, and while we welcome this recognition of our research activities, like much of the government’s response to this nuclear crisis, it simply does not go far enough”, added Sato. “The government must urgently revise its decision and approve testing closer to shore, so we can begin this critically important independent research.”
www.greenpeace.org...


Off to email this info to Arnie...ooooooohhhh I'm p^ssing mad


Des


Is it time to send Cpt Paul Watson and the Sea Shepherds in? I'd say they have some explerience in dealing with the Japanese.
www.theecologist.org...



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Peeking under the TEPCO rug...oops...



By NORIMITSU ONISHI and KEN BELSON
Published: April 26, 2011

TOKYO — Given the fierce insularity of Japan’s nuclear industry, it was perhaps fitting that an outsider exposed the most serious safety cover-up in the history of Japanese nuclear power. It took place at Fukushima Daiichi, the plant that Japan has been struggling to get under control since last month’s earthquake and tsuna



In 2000, Kei Sugaoka, a Japanese-American nuclear inspector who had done work for General Electric at Daiichi, told Japan’s main nuclear regulator about a cracked steam dryer that he believed was being concealed. If exposed, the revelations could have forced the operator, Tokyo Electric Power, to do what utilities least want to do: undertake costly repairs.

What happened next was an example, critics have since said, of the collusive ties that bind the nation’s nuclear power companies, regulators and politicians.


The law that protects whistle blowers in the nuclear industry, didn't protect Mr. Sugaoka, now did it.


Despite a new law shielding whistle-blowers, the regulator, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, divulged Mr. Sugaoka’s identity to Tokyo Electric, effectively blackballing him from the industry. Instead of immediately deploying its own investigators to Daiichi, the agency instructed the company to inspect its own reactors. Regulators allowed the company to keep operating its reactors for the next two years even though, an investigation ultimately revealed, its executives had actually hidden other, far more serious problems, including cracks in the shrouds that cover reactor cores.


www.nytimes.com...

Des



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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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While you're peeking there, don't forget to peek here...

Take a look at the pics on this page: BWR's In Alabama... Same Design as in Japan that are now in scram and emergency cooling mode due to the tornado swarm in the USA.


The plant shut down on 27 April at 4.36 pm and units 2 and 3 achieved cold shutdown at 2.43 am and 5.45 am on 28 April respectively. TVA said that unit 1 was was being cooled and the priority now was to get that reactor into cold shutdown as well.


When's the last time we heard those fateful words?

Prepare the world for bad news...

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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by Destinyone
Say it ain't so...



Greenpeace marine radiation monitoring blocked by Japanese government



I called it a few pages back. They're out for confrontation - because confrontation is good PR, and that means more donations. Did anyone really think that the Japanese government would allow a vessel with a long history of harassing Japanese vessels to start nosing around up and down the coast?

Greenpeace can get plenty of valuable data outside the 12 mile limit, and outside the Fukushima exclusion zone. If they were after data, that is.


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posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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Latest Press Releases from Hong Kong here :

www.fehd.gov.hk/english/news/details/04-2011.html


Date Headline

28/04/2011 Hong Kong's radiation level remains normal
27/04/2011 Hong Kong's radiation level remains normal
26/04/2011 Hong Kong's radiation level remains normal
25/04/2011 Hong Kong's radiation level remains normal
24/04/2011 Hong Kong's radiation level remains normal
23/04/2011 Hong Kong's radiation level remains normal
22/04/2011 Hong Kong's radiation level remains normal



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 07:03 PM
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"The reactor is cold, compared to the fuel pool."

Wrong. The top of the fuel pool is open that's why it shows hot, what you call the reactor core is the lid to the primary containment vessel.

It's basic mistakes like this that renders much of the analysis on this thread unusable.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by mrbillshow
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"The reactor is cold, compared to the fuel pool."

Wrong. The top of the fuel pool is open that's why it shows hot, what you call the reactor core is the lid to the primary containment vessel.

It's basic mistakes like this that renders much of the analysis on this thread unusable.


A couple pages ago you agreed with Arnie that the fuel pool underwent a fission explosion which blew the fuel rods all over the place and now you're saying they're all still there which is why it is hot.

Please clarify which side of the discussion you are on.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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The IAEA Fukushima Nuclear Accident Update Log
Updates of 28 April 2011

www.iaea.org...

For basic reference on BWRs, the NRCs Reactor Concepts Manual-Boiling Water Reactor (BWR) Systems.
18 page pdf file.

www.nrc.gov...

I don't recall this being posted before (except for some images), informs you about the systems/functions involved in a BWR so you'll know what system they're referencing in communiques.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Destinyone
Say it ain't so...



Greenpeace marine radiation monitoring blocked by Japanese government


i won't say " I told you so" but at least they didn't blast them out of the water... yet



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by mrbillshow
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"what you call the reactor core is the lid to the primary containment vessel."


Wrong.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 08:12 PM
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Deutsche Presse-Agentur - High radiation levels in food near damaged Japanese plant

Apr 28, 2011, 4:42 GMT


www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1635635.php


Tokyo - Authorities have detected high levels of radiation in fish and spinach produced near the damaged Fukushima nuclear power plant in north-eastern Japan, a news report said Thursday.

On Tuesday, 2,600 to 3,200 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive caesium was found in two samples of sand lance caught off Iwaki city, south of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station. That is five to six times above the legal limit, public broadcaster NHK reported.

Local government officials on Sunday also detected 960 becquerels of caesium per kilogram in spinach harvested in Otama village in Fukushima prefecture.

The Fukushima nuclear plant was severely damaged by the March 11 earthquake and ensuing tsunami and has been leaking radioactive material ever since.

The government has set the safety standard for leafy vegetables at 500 becquerels per kilogram. Shipments of several kinds of vegetables and fish from near the plant have been already banned, NHK said.

(...)


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Deutsche Presse-Agentur - Japan operator to restart nuclear reactor near fault line

Apr 28, 2011, 13:12 GMT


www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1635769.php


Tokyo - Chubu Electric Power Co said Thursday it would resume operation of a reactor at its nuclear plant situated near a fault line in central Japan, an earthquake-prone country.

The company said it would restart reactor 3 at the Hamaoka nuclear power plant in the City of Omaezaki, south-west of Tokyo, to maintain a stable power supply this summer.

The city and many of its residents depend on the plant although it is located near a fault line and seismologists say another big earthquake could hit the region.

The utility is making its earnings forecast for this financial year ending March 2012 on the assumption that it will resume operations at the reactor, unnamed sources told Kyodo News.

(...)



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by Chakotay
While you're peeking there, don't forget to peek here...

Take a look at the pics on this page: BWR's In Alabama... Same Design as in Japan that are now in scram and emergency cooling mode due to the tornado swarm in the USA.


The plant shut down on 27 April at 4.36 pm and units 2 and 3 achieved cold shutdown at 2.43 am and 5.45 am on 28 April respectively. TVA said that unit 1 was was being cooled and the priority now was to get that reactor into cold shutdown as well.


When's the last time we heard those fateful words?

Prepare the world for bad news...

edit on 28-4-2011 by Chakotay because: CLASSIFIED


It also makes you wonder if the back up generators are elevated above the 500 yr or 1000 yr flood levels.
Too much "it can't happen here" when they site and approve nuke plants.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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Radiation Readings in Fukushima Reactor Rise to Highest Since Crisis Began


Radiation readings at Japan’s Fukushima Dai-Ichi station rose to the highest since an earthquake and tsunami knocked out cooling systems impeding efforts to contain the worst nuclear crisis since Chernobyl.

Two robots sent into the reactor No. 1 building at the plant yesterday took readings as high as 1,120 millisierverts of radiation per hour, Junichi Matsumoto, a general manager at Tokyo Electric Power Co., said today. That’s more than four times the annual dose permitted to nuclear workers at the stricken plant. www.bloomberg.com...



“Tepco must figure out the source of high radiation,” said Hironobu Unesaki, a nuclear engineering professor at Kyoto University. “If it’s from contaminated water leaking from inside the reactor, Tepco’s so-called water tomb may be jeopardized because flooding the containment vessel will result in more radiation in the building.” www.bloomberg.com...





www.youtube.com...



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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Right now on the Discovery Channel. (8:36pm US Central time)



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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From 8 to 9, they started with the earthquake. Showed horrific videos. They were as bad as 9-11, Katrina, and Tailand. Etc. I made myself watch. I feel obligated to. For some reason.

Poor poor Japan, I'm not religious practicing, but I have prayed for you.



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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Radiation release at Fukishima is increasing, and has been continuing ceaslessly...

A ban on rice cultivation has been implemented within the 20 km radius centering on Fukishima....


Radiation caused by the accident at the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant of Japan still remains a serious problem. The Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology of Japan on April 25 published the results of the analysis of the contamination of atmosphere and soil in a place about 4 km northwest of the nuclear power plant.

According to it, iodine-131 of 310 Bq per one cubic meter was detected in the atmosphere in Maeda, Futaba chon and this is more than 62 times the radiation limit in ordinary times at the power plant. Cesium-137 of 380,000 Bq per one kg of earth was detected in Yamata, Futaba chon.

As high concentration of radioactive substance is still detected in Futaba chon near the power plant, the Jiji Press reported that radioactive substance is believed to have ceaselessly leaked from the power plant.
www.kcna.co.jp...



posted on Apr, 28 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Gotta love how they're trying their hardest to shift the blame from 'earthquake damage, bad planning, maintenance and running out of diesel' to 'a tsunami swamped the generators'. A little bit of 'a dingo stole my baby' going on as per usual. I'm wondering when a top commedian will start adopting tepconese.
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