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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Off that same video Zorgon and you have uncovered; a companion video elaborating on our points today of worker safety and care being grossly neglected. These workers are not being informed of their radiation exposures or properly equipped to be in this environment.





posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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April 21. new u-tube video. French man in Japan, posts his anger at lack of info and lies being told.
I follow his posted vids also, he gets very emotional sometimes, but, he is French. Love what he says about Japanese Women, that, when the SHTF in Japan, it will be the women who make that happen.

japan fukushima update- red zone under martial law- 04 21 2011

www.youtube.com...

Des


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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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The firm also plans to reduce the number of its new recruits, which stood at about 1,000 this spring, by more than 100 each year for the next 5 years.

Because they think they gonna be in business in 5 years?



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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Thank you to the link the video. Please folks take a listen to it pay especial attention at 4:48 minutes into it. "It states that In the past their data was NOT accurate - and from NOW ON data will be disclosed right away IF they get the data and - They think Their data disclosure is not so slow."

So, admitted to lying flat out the way I see it.

and - from Now On they will Try and do better IF.

And all is Good with the world and there is not immediate health risk from anything.

That was a skit out of Saturday Night Live - Right?



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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Total capacity of halted or damaged units: 24,791 megawatts.

source

If you look at the table on the page linked, you will see that a number of Tepco's non-nuclear facilities have been affected as well as the one we've been focused on.

There are still large portions of the northern end of Honshu that don't have power, or are doing with very little having to endure rolling blackouts and inconsistent supply of power. Not a very fertile ground for sowing the tainted seed that everything is under control.

The people of the Japan are in need. There are few who have acted honorably in this entire fiasco, in fact about the only public figure I have seen is the Japanese Emperor Akihito who has lead the way from the very beginning of this disaster with his words and actions.


TOKYO, April 21, 2011 (AFP) - Japanese Emperor Akihito hosted Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard at his royal home Thursday as he has closed the palace to save electricity after the earthquake and tsunami hit power supplies.


Not only is the Emperor leading by example, he still shows compassion and caring for others in the world even though his own people are still struggling with this calamity.


Gillard said the emperor and empress thanked Australia for its help following the massive disaster.

"They also inquired about how we were responding and overcoming from our summer of natural disasters. They were very interested to hear how Queensland and other parts of the country were going to get over the impacts of flood and cyclone," she told reporters.


If more people acted with half the honor of the Emperor, this world would be a much better place.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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2:29 is where he really started squirming when he was asked what they would do differently.He talks about there not being any way to anticipate a tsunami of the size which occurred. Maybe he didn't read the numerous stories of first hand history and the lesson of the tsunami stones has been forgotten to the ruin of many.

And then the last two questions were answered in a manner in which made me think of the NISA official being struck the entire time he was speaking. The constant blinking and almost shrinking as if in anticipation of a blow landing.

There were several long pauses to answer as well as the stumbling language. He's answering in English himself, so he clearly understands the questions and isn't waiting translation.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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ahh yes let's give the emperor some credit, he shut down his palace and now lives in his mansion instead! He's such a nice, kind, giving guy! His last gift would only give the victims what maybe $110 american? How does that help the hungry and homeless from this disaster? Seriously this man is stingy given the parasite leeching he does off of his people. He needs to sell the palace, sell the mansion, and live in a normal house.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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Arnie Gunderson's newest video update is available on their site. Did not find on youtube and see no option to imbed a vimeo video here unfortunately.

Epidemiologist, Dr. Steven Wing, Discusses Global Radiation Exposures and Consequences with Gundersen

PS, Zorgon gets full credit for that interview posted earlier
He's been talking about that interview since the day before and lamenting not having a recording, but today found it buried on the news site. I just happened to find it on youtube so that it could be inbeded.


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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Radioactive spills and breakdown revealed at British nuclear plants

Leaked report details incidents at three plants during February that were serious enough to be reported to ministers

Rob Edwards
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 20 April 2011 17.30 BST


robedwards.typepad.com/files/nuclear-incidents-jan-march-2011.pdf

www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/apr/20/radioactive-spills-breakdown-british-nuclear-plants


There have been two spillages of radioactive waste and a breakdown in an emergency cooling system at Britain's nuclear plants in the last three months, according to a report to ministers leaked to the Guardian.

A brown puddle containing plutonium five times the legal limit leaked from an old ventilation duct at the Sellafield nuclear complex in Cumbria. This exposed "a number of shortfalls in the design", says the report.

Groundwater at the Torness nuclear power station near Edinburgh was contaminated with radioactive tritium (an isotope of hydrogen) leaking from two pipelines. At Hartlepool nuclear station on the north-east coast of England, the backup cooling system was put out of action by a faulty valve.

All three incidents occurred in February and are still under investigation by the Office for Nuclear Regulation (ONR), the government's new nuclear safety watchdog. They were sufficiently serious to be reported to ministers under safety guidelines agreed after the Chernobyl accident in Ukraine 25 years ago.

(...)



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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Another entity that ought to be kicking in on supporting everyone from nuclear refugees to emergency workers...seems to be doing alright.

General Electric Co posted an 80 percent rise in profit that topped Wall Street's expectations




(Reuters) - General Electric Co posted an 80 percent rise in profit that topped Wall Street's expectations, helped by a strong recovery in its finance arm.

But the results, which followed a series of better-than-expected earnings reports from top U.S. manufacturers, failed to impress investors and shares of the largest U.S. conglomerate fell 2 percent on Thursday.

The world's biggest maker of jet engines and electric turbines also raised its dividend for the third time since July, though Chief Executive Jeff Immelt
warned investors that GE does not plan to keep up that pace of increases.

Analysts noted GE's 6 percent rise in revenue -- which came across all divisions -- may have been inflated by a change in its fiscal calendar that added six days to the first quarter.


I'm sure their claims department is ready willing and able to receive demand for payment for lost "everything" along with everyone else who made money following the nuclear meldown.

We need to make sure that new "up to 10% owner of TEPCO stock whose identity is still to be exposed," also comes along for the ride.

Everyone who chose to ride the wave up and enjoy enormous profits over many years, should certainly get a hand-delivered invitation from the world's citizens to the stablization and clean-up party. They better bring a big checkbook too. Glad GE is sitting "flush."

Source



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by NoAngel2u
Here are some recent videos featuring Dr Helen Caldicott. She certainly tells it like it is

This first video appears to have been recorded on April 18th at a conference in Montreal "On the Dangers of Nuclear War."


As usual trying to catch up on several threads, and attempting to insert a few relavent thoughts to all of the wonderful people who do such an incredible job of waking up the grid of existence we currently find ourselves dealing with daily life here on our planet.

Just wanted to say that the videos of this amazing lady who is attempting to wake us up to the dangers we are faced with and have been for some time...

No Angel2u I just wanted to make everyone aware that the first video had a bump at 6:02; if you go slightly past it, it picks up again and completes itself... you are doing a great thing bringing all of these things to light yourself.

May everyone have a great understanding of the doctors words who has spent 4 decades trying to overcome the TPTB's distortions of truth and reality of dangers of nuclear power generation and nuclear war on our little blue planet.
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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 03:00 PM
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I just watched the video Zorgon alerted us to (todays YouTube with Tepco official being grilled), and listened to Arnie Gundersens audio interview posted today 21/4 (Raintime? - *search today's YouTube under his name)...

I am more concerned than ever about the situation at the fuel storage facility in unit 4....

The Tepco official volunteered quite early on his concerns about unit 4, and I was really quite alarmed when he said they were "considering" taking steps to shore up the structure underneath the fuel storage pool.

Now, in light of Mr Gundersens recent revelations about possible evidence (extremely high radioctivity readings in it's water) of an unanticipated reaction in that storage tank, and evidence that the tank is cracked or leaking somehow (Mr Gundersen cited an AREVA report I think that mentioned that), I found that extremely unnerving when the TEPCO official said that.

Just thinking things through, if we run with Mr Gundersens hypothesis, that the tank was fractured in the quake, then as with some of the reactors it lost cooling, and I presume a significant level of water, enough to trigger a reaction of some severity (Mr Gundersen says the levels of radiation suggest a discharge of the level of the Chernobyl event) in that tank, and then at some point TEPCO refilled the tank (via for example the cement truck), for me that raises some really unpleasant questions.

How much structural integrity does the base of the tank (and it's support structure) have?
If the tank is constantly leaking through the fracture, how is the water erosion affecting the structural integrity? How did the heat from the reaction event affect the structural integrity - could it accelerate the rate of decay in the steel/concrete remaining?
How likely is it that they can get men into such a 'hot' environment and shore it up before either it simply falls apart or is shaken by a quake? Do they have time?
Also, are they able to monitor the structure adequately, if the fracture began to grow, would they be able to react quickly enough or do anything to prevent complete failure?
If it failed, and water levels rapidly dropped uncontrolably, could it be more likely to explode due to water flashing to steam than it did in the previous cycle?
If the tank is leaking, and therefore being flushed through, would that mean that the water left now is effectively watered down in comparison to it's state nearer the reaction event, so that the radiation measurements releasd by TEPCO may not even be as high as the initial water readings?

Good night, thanks again for your often humorous contributions Zorgon.

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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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A thought came to me earlier regarding the plant name: Fuku-shima; shima in Japanese means island. Could that have any relevance in relation to the discussion on water intakes, outflows etc?

Mods; if that was mentioned before, I missed it.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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Greetings:

The link you posted seems to have gone down for some reason, but there are always backdoors.

We thought that the original article was so good, we will post some more of it to add to your fine post.
The Pratt Tribune

This article breaks it down in lay person's terms by a bona fide nuclear engineer and local farmer. We also like his smile and think that this person is a stand-up individual.


Smiling Ed


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When the earthquake and tsunami hit, Petrowsky watched with great interest how the facility would handle the crisis and control the threat of radiation contamination.

The Japanese are getting close to a point where they may have to turn each of the damaged reactors into a sand and concrete sarcophagus similar to the sarcophagus at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in Ukraine following an explosion on April 26, 1986, Petrowsky said.

The people working at the accident site have been exposed to a lot of radiation and Petrowsky said that survivability was probably slim and the workers would obviously have a lot of health issues.

When the earthquake and tsunami hit the reactors went into shutdown or scram. Water is supposed to be pumped continuously to keep the reactors cool but both the outside power and backup power failed. It was never assumed that the plant would lose coolant but when all the power failed that is exactly what happened.

Without those systems the critical coolant water that helps produce steam and keeps the reactor temperate at a safe level did not circulate and the reactors and the fuel pool began to heat up, Petrowsky said.

“They were worried about the water level,” Petrowsky said.

He wants to know why the Japanese didn’t bring in stand by generators. The country makes generators, American Navy vessels were in the area and had generators so why weren’t generators brought in? Petrowsky said. 

The loss of water caused dangerous heat to build up leading to hydrogen gas explosions that damaged three of the plant’s six reactors.

Each of the nuclear reactors at the site has three containment vessels. The reactor is a containment vessel itself. Around the reactor is the primary containment vessel and around that is the secondary containment vessel, Petrowsky said.

When the water failed the temperature inside the reactor rose and caused pressure to buildup inside the primary containment vessel. To relieve that pressure, hydrogen steam was released from the primary containment vessel into the secondary containment vessel. The release caused a buildup of hydrogen the rejoined with oxygen and the pressure was too great and it blew the roofs off the secondary containment vessels. That is what people saw exploding on television.

So the primary containment vessels still held but inside the primary, without cooling water, damage continued and it is that damage plus the damage to the fuel pool that has Petrowsky wondering what the Japanese are going to do with the facility. 

And it wasn’t just the water in the reactors that was the problem. When the boron fuel rods used to control the nuclear reaction in the reactor have been used up they are still radioactive and will stay that way for thousands of years.


Seems to me that the numbers for "concernable" radioactivity being bandied about by the MSM never mentioned thousands of years.


Those rods are stored in a fuel pool that continuously covers the rods with recirculated water that keeps the temperature down and controls radiation. The fuel pool doesn’t have a containment building like the reactor but just a metal building.

When the water failed, the rods got hot and caused a hydrogen explosion that blew the top of the fuel pool building off releasing radioactive steam, Petrowsky said.
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We are inviting Mr. Petrowsky to join us here.

In Peace. Love & Light

tfw


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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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Just linking those quotes with my last post on this page, re:



Those rods are stored in a fuel pool that continuously covers the rods with recirculated water that keeps the temperature down and controls radiation. The fuel pool doesn’t have a containment building like the reactor but just a metal building.

When the water failed, the rods got hot and caused a hydrogen explosion that blew the top of the fuel pool building off releasing radioactive steam, Petrowsky said.


OK, so that's another concern I would add to my list on R4 spent fuel storage pool structural integrity (is he talking about the storage at R4 or the seperate building that I think they had there?) Well I guess his hydrogen explosion hypothesis would marry up with the other hypothesis for a reaction at R4 spent fuel pool anyway, so, not only may we have structural damage (to it's underside?) due to the quake, but also it's base and sides absorbed some of that explosion trauma/force he mentioned (would that have been significant - where're our resident explosion experts?), I hadn't really included that in my last post...it just gets less and less nice...
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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Just to re-emphasise, he did say concerned/considering shoring it's support structure up??

As in, concerned/may not be able to do anything? ?



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by DancedWithWolves
Another entity that ought to be kicking in on supporting everyone from nuclear refugees to emergency workers...seems to be doing alright.

General Electric Co posted an 80 percent rise in profit that topped Wall Street's expectations



Everyone who chose to ride the wave up and enjoy enormous profits over many years, should certainly get a hand-delivered invitation from the world's citizens to the stablization and clean-up party. They better bring a big checkbook too. Glad GE is sitting "flush."


GE can sell a product which is so enormously dangerous it runs the risk of ending Japan and poisoning our environment on a never ending and massive scale. GE has ZERO liability...ZERO. The radiation being released will no doubt alter our genetic futures in ways we cannot yet imagine. So they can sell this product and recommend that it be built in a seismically active and tsunami prone area and simply slink away when something goes wrong.




nytimes.com:
The company reported worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, and said $5.1 billion of the total came from its operations in the United States.
Its American tax bill? None. In fact, G.E. claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion.


Illegal immigrants in the US paid 11.2 billion in taxes last year. GE zero. In fact we taxpayers paid GE 3.2 billion.



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 04:30 PM
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The shoring up is indicated in my analysis of the countermeasures roadmap here:

Originally posted by jadedANDcynical
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Great find!

Let me see what I can discern from these:


Risk [8]: Considerable reduction of radiation dose is a prerequisite to launch construction.

emphasis mine

I think this says a great deal about the entire "plan"

Until they are able to safely manage down the amount of radiation being released, they will not be able to accomplish ANY of their stated goals.

The following is stated a bit earlier in the document:

Risk [7]: Possibility of delay in installing water processing facilities or poor operating performance of the facilities.


What would case the delay? See the prior highlighted portion of the report. Until they get the MASSIVE amount of radiation in check, they won't be able to do any of this.

This caught my eye:

(Unit 4) Install supporting structure


Take a look at the image of the "Overview of Countermeasures" below:



You will notice several things.

First is the location of the "Seal the damaged location" that Zorgon pointed out as pertaining to the torus of unit 2.

Next, you will see the portion labeled "(Unit 4) Installation of supporting structure under the bottom of the spent fuel pool (countermeasure 26)"

This is mentioned in the following portion of the document:

Current Status [7]: Walls of the building supporting the pool have been damaged.

Tolerance evaluation is especially needed for Unit 4.

⇒ Tolerance assessment of Unit 4.
Countermeasure [20]: Seismic tolerance of Unit 4

=>A certain level of seismic tolerance has been confirmed.

Countermeasure [21]: Continue monitoring monitoring and examine necessary countermeasures (→ countermeasure [26].)


"A certain level of seismic tolerance has been confirmed" Um, yeah, as in very little. They're saying that they don't know mow much more shaking the building can take and they really need to know this if they are going to have any kind of chance at performing any of their proposed countermeasures. All of which are predicated upon the reduction of radiation levels for the plant.

In other words, this ENTIRE "roadmap" is wish list material until the radiation abates!

Source page containing documents for all above quotes




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posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 06:27 PM
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Thanks
got that saved now. Seems he was squirming a little



posted on Apr, 21 2011 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by bitbytebit
oh I want a radioactive car, t'would be cool and the legal limits already have a huge built in safely margin so 6x wouldn't worry me.


Yeah I could use a new one too... Maybe we can take them off Russia's hands

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