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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 01:28 AM
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It seems to be either blue sheeting debris or weird blue debris of some kind on the collapsed end of some sort of exhaust ducts or something----you can see a few of them right behind #3 in the other pics showing the other side of the building.




posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 01:30 AM
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Okay, dude, we're done for tonight. Take a few aspirin and drink plenty of water before bed or you'll have a raging headache in the morning.

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posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 01:33 AM
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Thanks.I noticed alot of little things,moved here and there. Unless its the angles of the pics. I am going to sort through these pics ,to see if anything else is out of the ordinary.



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by TheRedneck
I'm getting a really bad feeling over this. I posted yesterday that it is possible that the bedrock has cracked underneath Unit #4, with cracks spreading to Unit #3 and creating the oceanic radiation levels. But this 8" long crack is at Unit #2. Am I the only one seeing this pattern?


Take a close look at this pit... ignore the concrete and look at the front edge... notice anything?



The obvious is that the the "pit" has been pushed up or the ground around it has sunk several inches.

But I noticed something else as well. Note the sheet metal covering over the electrical wires. It has shifted laterally by about 1/2 the width of the pit. You can see the opening that it should be sitting over. Confirmation that it wasn't built like that is how the wires are now stretched. Compare that to this picture for earlier in this thread:


Originally posted by OuttaHere
I can't help noticing that the crack in the picture does not match the description of a 20cm crack in a pit:




Here, it's in the normal position. Likely it isn't the same pit but it may indicated how much the ground has shifted laterally at that location. Depending on where this is located (I think it's on the "warf"), this may also be damage from the tsunami.



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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I thought this radiation chart was interesting. Dont know how accurate it is though. Dont know if someone else posted it either.




Radiation



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 01:45 AM
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United States government experiments on human populations with planned releases of radioactive contaminants.

The mention last week of milk sample contamination somewhere near Spokane, Washington (USA) showing nuclear fallout indicators triggered something. I think I may have been attempting to repress memories of an unfortunate era in nuclear investigations.

Here are three links to information related to nuclear emissions from Hanford (Hanford Nuclear Reservation or Hanford Site). I think this is a very pertinent to current concerns related to human health, agriculture production, and livestock populations. There is a plethora of information about Hanford. The repository for documents may be Gonzaga University in Spokane, WA.

Hanford Report: Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry

Hanford Downwinders

Release of Radioactive Materials from Hanford

I wish I remembered what I knew many years ago when I was involved with Hanford investigation.

Was the Berkeley sampling really directly related to the current Japan situation or merely continuation of studies related to what I consider the worst-case, (known) planned nuclear experiments designed to see if or how radiation might impact humans? What is even more unfortunate (tragic) is there was never any real epidemiological study to determine results of the studies. Is now just a convenient time for Berkeley to share data in hope of enhancing research financing? Why would Berkeley be studying indicator contamination in Washington – about 1,500 kilometres from the university – but not showing similar interest throughout the fallout area?

There are well-founded complaints about slow release of data from Japan related to the current situation. I will purport that the current situation is far more forthcoming with information than the United States government was regarding its release of information regarding its top secret (classified) experiments with nuclear related emissions as well as the impact on health of unsuspecting residents in Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Montana.

I would like to believe the United States would be more proactive and communicatory should it have a similar event to Fukushima, but really, I have my doubts based on historical record during significant disasters.



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 01:59 AM
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nice, wow what a condescending post, totally off topic and condescending good job ats,

you are not addressing the issues here , yes I'm an ass , but this is a world changing event and I am not sensationalizing it or underplaying it , all I ask is you tell me how this thing does not effect a huge number of people or draw there concern



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:01 AM
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I must respectfully disagree with you. Nuclear energy is certainly the problem. If it were not for nuclear energy then we would not need solutions that are tested and work to solve the problems that go wrong. It seems far to often they are located on fault lines, must be constructed near water sources and whether privatized, or public, will ALWAYS pose risks far greater than we will likely be able to handle, even with little safety guidelines and pre-catastrophe testing. It simply is not worth the risks. Of course this is merely my not so humble opinion.

It certainly is an argument worth having, isn't it? We, that is all those of us for nuclear energy and those of us against it need to be asking why this debate has never been held with the people of this planet! Since the down side is we destroy our planet, either incrementally or all at once, because all at once is apparently possible too when we go messing with things nuclear.

My personal position is this. I am against nuclear energy at this present point in time. It isn't because I think the principle is itself without merit though. I simply don't believe we have attained yet the science or the political/economic system to deal with it. The way the world is set up right now is diabolical. If it wasn't the destructive force of a natural phenomenon such as we witnessed hit a double whammy in Japan, it is the direct threat of nuclear war itself.

If the by-products could be handled safely and did not present any risk on that basis than all well and good. I don't think fission is in that category. For the reasons you state. Fusion may be a possibility. But again I don't think the present economic system in the world that asserts the highest value is profit can ever be trusted with public safety, particularly when we talk about this kind of awesome power.



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posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by Silverlok
all I ask is you tell me how this thing does not effect a huge number of people or draw there concern


Quote where I said that, and we'll talk.
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posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by Tallone


If the by-products could be handled safely and did not present any risk on that basis than all well and good. I don't think fission is in that category. For the reasons you state. Fusion may be a possibility. But again I don't think the present economic system in the world that asserts the highest value is profit can ever be trusted with public safety, particularly when we talk about this kind of awesome power.



There is about 70,000 tons of spent fuel stored at reactor sites around the country. Three-quarters of the material sits in cooling pools. Reactor operators have been re-racking the rods so they can fit more of them in the pools -- a practice that makes the pools more radioactive and potentially more dangerous in the event of an accident...........

While nuclear waste piles up in U.S., billions in fund to handle it sit unused


I agree also.........



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:08 AM
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Good Catch!


Not only did it move, but it got bent!

It's pretty straight other than that wicked twist at the "south" end of the pipe, buy if you look at it in the moved version, the long section is considerably more angled...Do we know how long that segment of pipe is and it's thickness?



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:15 AM
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It also seems covered in dust and small bits in the "straight" photo but cleaner in the "bent" one, as well as the wood-stick-like debris that was laying at its open end. It's like a blast cleared that immediate area?



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:23 AM
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wow thanks god



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Regenstorm
The Crack.

I'm
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Please take a look at the pictures in these articles:


Water flowing into a pit with a screen...



A DRY pit with concrete poured in. Since they say that they COULDN'T stuff the leak how come this pit is DRY?



What have these two pits got to do with each other?

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Yeah, I noticed the crack as soon as you posted the pic, but was at work and could only lurk from time to time and was unable to post and I figured someone would spot it and post before I got home.

I'll got further and say that this pit is the same as the one from our Nikon moment pages ago. It is entirely possible that the barred door you're looking through in the leak picture is seen in the concrete pit picture, but it is swung most of the way open and is presenting at an odd angle.

If you look at the upper section in the middle of the concrete pit picture, you will see what could be the top of the open door. If this isn't making any sense. I can open MS paint ant point out what I'm referring to.



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:44 AM
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* NEWS ADVISORY: Radioactive level 100 times limit in water to be dumped in sea: TEPCO (16:23)

* NEWS ADVISORY: TEPCO may release 15,000 tons of contaminated water into sea from Tues. (16:21)

* NEWS ADVISORY: Shipment of spinach, etc in areas in Chiba Pref. restricted: Edano (16:15)


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Looks like they are going to continue purposefully dumping radioactive seawater back into the ocean.



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 03:17 AM
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Japan's TEPCO to release radioactive water into sea

www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/04/japan-plant-sea-idUSTFD00672720110404


Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said there was no other choice but to release the water.



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 03:22 AM
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TEPCO may release radioactive water into Pacific from Tues.




The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station plans to release water containing radioactive materials into the sea possibly from Tuesday in a bid to help speed up work to bring the crippled complex under control, it said Monday.

The total amount of contaminated water to be released will be 15,000 tons and the concentration of the waste water is estimated at about 100 times the legal limit, which is deemed as a relatively low level, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.


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Sushi anyone?



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 03:31 AM
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Radioactive fallout may hit Taiwan in two days

Radioactivity at 0.0638 sieverts per hour, much lower than the 0.2-sievert alarm level, is expected, the agency said, adding it will step up monitoring of airborne fallout and warn people not to go out if radioactivity reaches alarming levels.


And then they say that epic lie :

Breathing in the particles for a whole year is equivalent to one 300th of an X-ray examination, said Lee Jo-chan, director of AEC's Department of Radiation Protection.

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

0.0638 sievert/hr or 1.5312 sievert/day or 558 sievert/yr which is WAY HIGHER than an x-ray. They are lying at atrocious levels. (8 sieverts will kill you very fast)

They obviously got their numbers wrong or their ``specialist`` is full of it.

People should stay home while the nuclear fallout is here in order to avoid prolonged exposure, a specialist with the Veterans General Hospital said, adding those who must go out should immediately take off their clothes and cleanse nuclear contaminants from their bodies as soon as they are back home.

People should wear long-sleeved clothing and masks when they go out on a sunny day and carry an umbrella if it rains, said AEC's Lee Jo-chan, who also recommended cleansing showers, but not iodine tablets and table salt.

Iodine tablets are intended for people anticipating an exposure to 100-sievert or higher radioactivity, Lee noted, saying indiscriminate use could cause heart palpitation and an abnormal heartbeat in an otherwise normal person.

100 sievert and you take an iodine tablet? WHAT? 100 sievert, YOU'RE LONG DEAD.

Some ignorant twat wrote that article...
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posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 04:32 AM
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I see that there has been another couple of shakes close to the Fukushima region. Not large, but the coordinates are worrying. Fukushima sits at 37/141 these two were at 37/142 within 4 minutes of each other - 4.9 and 5.0m respectively.



posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 04:35 AM
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BBC radio news keeps repeating the 15k release claim, with the additional assertion that this is to make room for new toxic water to be produced. Basically, this thing is now a machine for making radioactive seawater.

The danger must be growing for the rowers keep on rowing and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing...




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