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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 01:43 AM
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The thing to worry about here in the pacific northwest is that we get copious amounts of rain.




posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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Eh, good question! Probably try to conserve the fresh water by just wetting a washcloth and wiping it many times, each time with a new cloth and bit of fresh water? These are the kinds of things I wonder about when looking at ancient customs, like Jewish washing and ritual cleanliness rules, etc. I look at a mikvah and wonder if it was rooted in some pre-ancient nuclear disaster where they had to just make rules that seemed like they would help keep people alive, and pass them down, eventually losing context of the original reasons.

But that is waaaaaay another thread, LOL. Sorry, big Graham Hancock/lost civilizations fan!



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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a big report from JAIF


No. 35
Today’s NHK news regarding status of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power
station as of 12:00 on March 29
●Tokyo Electric Power Company says plutonium has been found in soil
samples from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
It says the radioactive substance appears to be related to the ongoing nuclear
accident, but the level detected is the same as that found in other parts of
Japan and does not pose a threat to human health.
TEPCO collected samples from 5 locations around the power plant over 2
days from March 21st and found 2 samples contaminated with plutonium.
Plutonium is a byproduct of the nuclear power generation process. At the
number 3 reactor of the Fukushima plant, plutonium is an ingredient in mixed
oxide, or MOX, fuel.
Radioactivity from plutonium can be shielded by a sheet of paper. But it can
remain in lungs and other organs to cause long-term damages including cancer.
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says the detected level is the same
as that found in the environment and not health-threatening for workers who
conducted the sampling, nor residents in surrounding areas.
The agency said it is awaiting the results of another survey by the Science
Ministry outside of a 20-kilometer radius from the plant, as well as a further
survey by TEPCO in the plant compound.
Tuesday, March 29, 2011 02:20 +0900 (JST)
●TEPCO faces challenge in cooling reactor
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said on Monday that TEPCO has to
strike a balance between injecting cooling water into the reactors and
preventing radioactive water from seeping out.
On Monday, the power company detected radiation of more than 1,000
millisieverts per hour on the surface of puddles in the No. 2 reactor's turbine
building and in a trench outside the building.
The concrete trench stretches toward the coast but does not connect to the sea.
Puddles of water were also found in the trenches of the No.1 and No.3
reactors.
The No.1 reactor's trench will overflow if the water rises by 10 centimeters.
TEPCO has blocked the trench outlet with sandbags and concrete to prevent
the water from reaching the ocean.
The water in the trenches of the No.2 and No.3 reactors is reportedly 1 meter
from overflowing.
We have been reporting a status of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station by
summarizing news aired by NHK, which is Japanese national broadcasting company.
We regard it as most credible news among many news sources and I am happy to say
that NHK’s English website has gotten enriched and you can see movies and English
scripts at www3.nhk.or.jp...
Given this situation, we decide to simply place these scripts as it is for the record in case
that it will be deleted later, rather than summarizing news as we did.
TEPCO said it hopes to swiftly find a way to remove the water from the
trenches.
On Monday, The power company scaled back its operation to cool the No. 2
reactor, injecting 7 tons per hour, reduced from 16. The reactor's temperature
rose by more than 20 degrees Celsius.
Tuesday, March 29, 2011 08:03 +0900 (JST)
●Radioactive water in external tunnels
The operator of the damaged nuclear power plant in Fukushima, northeastern
Japan, has reported that very high levels of radiation have been observed in water
in a trench just outside the turbine building for one of the reactors.
Tokyo Electric Power Company announced on Monday that a puddle of water
was found in a trench outside the No. 2 reactor turbine building at the Fukushima
Daiichi nuclear plant on Sunday afternoon. It said the radiation reading on the
puddle's surface indicated more than 1,000 millisieverts per hour.
The concrete trench is 4 meters high and 3 meters wide and houses power cables
and pipes. It is located in the compound of the plant but outside the radiation
control area.
TEPCO says the trench extends 76 meters toward the sea but does not reach the
sea, and that the contaminated water was not flowing into the sea.
TEPCO says it is trying to find out how the contaminated water came to be in the
trench.
Radiation levels of more than 1,000 millisieverts per hour were recorded on
Sunday in a puddle of water in the basement of the No. 2 reactor turbine building.
Puddles of water were also found in the trenches outside the No. 1 and No. 3
reactors. TEPCO reported 0.4 millisieverts of radiation on the surface of the
puddle in the No. 1 reactor's trench. But it said it failed to measure the No. 3
reactor's trench because it was covered with debris.
TEPCO says it had no intention of concealing data regarding the high level of
radiation detected on Sunday outside a turbine building at its Fukushima Daiichi
nuclear plant.
TEPCO Vice President Sakae Muto said at a news conference on Monday that he
only received the report from the plant workers earlier in the day.
The plant operator has revealed that it found water in a covered tunnel outside
the turbine building of the number 2 reactor, and that radiation of more than
1,000 millisieverts per hour was detected in the water.
Muto said the company has made this public and instructed the plant workers to
quickly take steps to dispose of the water.
Asked by reporters if TEPCO was concealing information, Muto said the
company has no intention of doing so.
He also said every day is full of events, and that TEPCO will quickly share
information of high importance so that it can swiftly consider countermeasures.
Vice President Muto added that the plant operator will confirm the flow of
information and have it thoroughly implemented in order to avoid
misunderstandings.
Tuesday, March 29, 2011 02:21 +0900 (JST)
●Radiation hampers cooling efforts
The effort to cool reactors at the damaged nuclear power plant in Fukushima,
northern Japan, is facing the risk of leaking highly radioactive substances.
The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company, raised water pumping
power on Sunday to cool the No. 2 reactor in a stable manner. On Monday, the
company cut back on the amount of injected water.
The move followed the Nuclear Safety Commission's announcement that highly
radioactive substances detected in puddles of water in the basement of the
reactor's turbine building may have come directly from the vessel containing the
reactor.
16 tons of water was being injected into the reactor every hour but TEPCO now
says it wants to reduce the amount to 7 tons. This would be enough to replace the
amount that is evaporating.
If the injected water level is reduced, temperatures may increase in the reactor.
TEPCO announced on Monday that radioactive substances 100,000 times higher
than usual for water in a reactor core were detected in puddles in the No. 2
reactor's turbine building on Sunday.
High radiation figures were also recorded earlier in water in the basements of the
turbine buildings for the No. 1 and No. 3 reactors. On Thursday, 3 workers were
exposed to high radiation while working in water at the No. 3 reactor's turbine
building.
The Nuclear Safety Commission said on Monday that the concentration of
radiation at the No. 2 reactor was dozens of times higher than the other 2 reactors.
The commission said it assumes that radioactive substances from temporarily
melted fuel rods at the No. 2 reactor had made their way into water in the reactor
containment vessel and then leaked out through an unknown route.
TEPCO, later, reported that very high levels of radiation have also been observed
in water in a trench just outside the turbine building for one of the reactors.
The commission said the biggest concern is the possibility of highly radioactive
water seeping into the ground and the ocean. It added that all-out efforts should
be made to prevent contaminated water from leaking and called on the
government to intensify monitoring radiation levels in the ground water and
seawater.
Monday, March 28, 2011 22:38 +0900 (JST)
End

www.jaif.or.jp...

status of all reactors here - (PDF) www.jaif.or.jp...



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by EnhancedInterrogator
My money is still on them pumping everything from the buildings, the trenches, etc. into the ocean. The question is, will they tell us about it before they do it, or after they have done it.


After... because the ocean levels already showed high radiation





posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 01:54 AM
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Well. I just know that we get a great deal of rain and if things get far worse as they are going to people need to start taking this more seriously here before a perfect storm of chaos presents itself. With radiation in our tap water which you are correct in saying to be possibly the best in Canada and maybe even the world we are now ingesting it. I am drinking t right now in lemon aid. Hey, have you noticed the weird cloud formations lately? I think it is obvious there is a cover up going on here and in the US regarding the true radiation levels.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 01:58 AM
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I could suppose a certain level might kill microbes but more likely the bugs would just mutate
Don't really know what a 'good' level of radiation would be



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:04 AM
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I think it is obvious there is a cover up going on here and in the US regarding the true radiation levels.


I am starting to get the same feeling ....it is just as hard to get level info here as it was in Japan early on
and they only give us some info and not the rest....like " trace amounts of iodine-131" detected...but no risk to health....how much?? what else?? whats the other readings???

it's really starting to bug me

you should read this link as well



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:05 AM
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Traces of radioactive iodine, cesium detected in S. Korea


The radiation level poses no risk to public safety and the environment, the ministry said.

Radioactive iodine has been detected in 12 radiation stations nationwide, including Seoul, while cesium was found only in Chuncheon, 85 kilometers west of Seoul, Yonhap News Agency reported Tuesday, citing the Korea Institute of Nuclear Safety.

english.kyodonews.jp...

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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:12 AM
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You know, I finally just put 2+2+2+2+2 together and realized something:

If we have detectable levels of I-131 and cesium and whatnot over here in the US.....doesn't that mean that we could also have *some* level of the ninja-neutron-water here as well? If the explosions managed to get particulates up high enough to fall down now as rain and be detected, and in the air as well, that means the superheated thermal jets of steam they're making over the plant each day are probably getting even higher.....and further.....

G-d, someone please tell me I'm wrong about that? Or that it's so not a big deal? I'll buy it up quick right now, I promise.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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yup that's what I am thinking as well..and they can't convince me of anything else at this point


and yeah I know everyone is saying that the Pu-239 is too heavy to make it..it will fall into the ocean...

But explain this then, how was it found in the frozen ice way up north all the way from japan???

granted small amounts.....but it don't take much in the first place



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:39 AM
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Originally posted by okiecowboy

you should read this link as well


Dude, dude, dude-----


UPDATE: a Berkeley lab's results from testing rainwater on March 23rd suggests that 1 liter of rain-harvested drinking water in Berkeley, Calif., would have an iodine-131 concentration of 542.7 picocuries and consuming one liter of this water would provide a radiation dose to the thyroid of an infant of 7.54 millirems. About 132 liters of water contaminated at these levels would provide 1 Rem dose to the infant thyroid. (Per NRC NUREG 1.109 rev. 1 Oct. '77). At these levels, a Bay Area adult would have to breath for 425 days to receive the same iodine-131 exposure as drinking 1 liter of rain-harvested drinking water. Also, the cesium-137 levels in rain water for March 23-24 broke a new high record peak since analyses begin on March 17 at the Berkeley lab - it's now at 16 picoCuries of Cesium-137 per liter of rain-harvested water. Boil down a liter of this rainwater, or ash in an oven a rain-soaked 'sticky' film filter, and it would measure on an advanced gamma counter 1,344 clicks per minute (CPM) *above* normal background levels - that doesn't even include the beta or alpha particles, including the beta energies of the Iodine-131 and Cesium-137!


From that same site


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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:45 AM
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and just think Strontium-89 and -90 are lighter than cesium-137 from what I understand....so should be able to detect that here in the U.S as well...where are those figures?



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:46 AM
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I don't know if I believe everything at the P-S website, but this is straight from Berkeley NUC.

It says rainwater is over the legal limit for I-131 in Berkeley, California.

Next Question: how is the Hetch-Hetchy Water in the water faucet?
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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:47 AM
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Edama press conference now

www3.nhk.or.jp...



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:48 AM
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NEWS ADVISORY: Use of clean energy key feature of quake reconstruction plan: Edano (16:23)

Sorce

Japan's Defense Minister says SDF troops are ready if asked to help remove highly radioactive water leaking at the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant

Sorce


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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:53 AM
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Wow, that is the page of the guy who's actually doing these rainwater readings and it confirms the data, yes? I tried following all of the comment discussion with the figures, but it's so late and I am so inept at all of this.......



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 03:02 AM
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Here's the law: I-131 in Water

and here's the Berkeley Raw Data for Rainwater.

So the spin doctors are playing word games with us now: "Over the legal limit? Sure, but it's still safe..."
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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 03:13 AM
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Its raining here in Vancouver right now speak of the devil. Starting to feel uneasy about being doused with radiation. How long can this go on one must wonder.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 03:14 AM
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Yeah I don't believe a word of what I am hearing on TV. It's ridiculous and insulting BS. & Now Berkley is saying it is over the legal limit (iodine in rainwater.) Great. I am in West Texas and I am not finding any good websites with more than one reading for my area. & I don't know if I trust those websites either. I understand that they are telling us it is not levels to worry about, but who is saying that again?? And I don't want any of it + I know this is much worse than they will ever tell us. By the way.. I have never seen Chemtrails before in this area although my Dad told me about them and said they we're very real it's pretty much common knowledge (he is a captian of an airline) and on the 25th I saw them. I mean not - are those Chemtrail chemtrails but more like @*^$ those are Chemtrails. I took pictures for anyone interested. I have never seen them in this area before. They were in X's; classic. You could plainly see 4 or more streams of stuff coming off this plane. And it stayed in the sky. Held its shape for awhile too. Obvious chemtrails. Kind of made me wonder if this was in any way related to radiation. I am sure someone thinks I'm an idiot for asking that.
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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 03:15 AM
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I read somewhere that :

"the mass is a natural nuclear reactor of the kind that existed long ago in Tanzania's Olduvai gorge and was speculated to be one of the sources of increased speed of primates' evolution in that region of Africa."

Either we get some mass evolution, or 50foot tunas growing soon.




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