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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake

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posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 12:37 AM
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No, I dont think so. I think its a tree. Comparing the different shots at enformable, especially in large size, the older stuff with R1 not encased shows a different tree line than the current shots. It appears they are falling trees and thats as far as theyve got. My guess anyway.




posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 12:43 AM
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Here is the handout for Xenon from Tepco. Cant find an english version. The bottom boxes are two other tests, the one on the bottom left was Aug 10 in R2 and found Xe-131m at that time as well at higher levels than now.



Although Iodine 131 wasn't found in any of the tests, the finding of Xe-131m, a daughter decay product of I-131, shows that it was there. The possible reason that I-131 wasn't detected is because the core is deep in the ground. If the core is deep in the ground, Xenon gases will escape when other fission products wont. That is why testing for it and other gases is so important at this stage of the game with the cores of three units potentially in the ground.

From "Radioxenon generation using highly enriched Uranium" ir.library.oregonstate.edu...


Radioxenon gas is one of the major byproducts from the fission of uranium. Above normal concentrations of xenon gas in the environment can help determine if nuclear fissioning has occurred from either reactors, or weapon detonations.....The radioxenon isotopes of interest for this experiment are xenon-131m, xenon-133m, xenon-133 and xenon-135.

Xenon gas, a noble element, will not bond to other elements to create molecules, thus it will remain highly mobile and in its’ pure form. This characteristic (mobility) allows for the gas to
escape from normal containment situations, such as underground nuclear detonations, where other fission products would normally become trapped.

During the fission process, a plethora of products are created with a wide range of properties. From the fission products produced, only two are created as noble gases, krypton and xenon. Of these, xenon is more prominently produced during the fission process. Other nuclides such as cesium are decayed from xenon, so may temporarily be suspended as a gaseous product.


ON EDIT: Having tested before and finding Xe-131m everywhere in the air of all three floors of R2, it is even more of a crime to wait this long to test again for one of the primary indicators of fission occurring.
edit on 2-11-2011 by zworld because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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Something to think about...

Just out of interest I enquired how much an image of Fukushima nuclear power plant Daiichi and Daini would be from Digital Globe and the answer surprised me.


we are resellers of DigitalGlobe imagery and can assist with your recent request to them. We very likely do have recent data but I wanted to let you know the price would start at $350 for this imagery.
eMap International
www.emap-int.com


We would have to establish what resolution these images are and what date they were taken if we ordered anything like this. I actually wonder whether they would provide these or not, but this kind of price would not be out-of-the-question for any interested groups who wanted to club together to get one.

Personally, I would want to see a similar (example) photo to find out if the resolution was enough to determine what I needed for my investigations, before I ordered anything like this, but it would certainly be useful to have an up-to-date image of the plant at a useful resolution.

I am surprised there are no recent up-to-date ones out on the internet from news companies.



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by qmantoo


I am surprised there are no recent up-to-date ones out on the internet from news companies.


What do you need?

Because i have access to some Data-Bases "normal" People" never see or expect,
only studied scientifically Stuff, no BS (as far as i read and understand)



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 05:32 AM
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Unit 2: New Criticality



So something has been going on with Unit 2...

www3.nhk.or.jp...

Not much time to post folks - but y'all are doing a fabulous job!!


- Purple Chive



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 06:40 AM
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For the first Time since the beginning NHK showed the Corium "under" the Cement Table
for a "theoretical Explanation" (7pm. News)

Reactor 2 look so harmless (brumm, brumm)
and now this, and the whole Story for the next 20 Years at minimum
every day a day full of fear for the Humankind


Do we will still sit here in 5- 10 yrears or even longer and exchange our Information,
think Year 2035 and we are still in high Alert, every Day, every Night!



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by Human0815
reply to post by Purplechive
 


For the first Time since the beginning NHK showed the Corium "under" the Cement Table
for a "theoretical Explanation" (7pm. News)

Reactor 2 look so harmless (brumm, brumm)
and now this, and the whole Story for the next 20 Years at minimum
every day a day full of fear for the Humankind


Do we will still sit here in 5-10 years or even longer, and exchange our Information?

Think Year 2035 and we are still in high Alert, every Day, every Night!


Greetings:

Great to see you out there and reporting from the front lines still.

Our prayers are with you.

We are not going to sit by for 20 years, exchanging information, and hoping for the best.

Stay tuned to this channel for breaking news, as there are exciting, positive efforts being made at this very moment to harness this energy (pun) for the common good of humanity - and, we, the people, will have our voices recognized.

BREAKING NEWS! 7:49 am EST

CNN just put up a puff piece about Fukushima!

Carol Costello talked over stock footage of damaged reactors and spoke about "possibility" of "new" fission.

We'll be back.

Peace Love Light
tfw

Liberty & Equality or Revolution




posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by zworld

Originally posted by Aircooled
Radiation readings of US top soil. Far different than Berkeley's. First the milk samples, now this. The folks at Berkeley are loosing credibility.
enenews.com...


Bigtime difference.

UC consistently found only 2.2 to 2.9 Bq/kg while the researcher doing the doctorate found levels in soil of 296 Bq/kg, over 100 times greater.

But then again, UC Berkeley is a school of nuclear engineering. Sink nuclear power and that school would be obsolete.

In general, I don't trust any agency that is govt run or govt funded.

Especially in the US.


Greetings:

Perhaps this will interest you also:


The DOE's 2012 fiscal year budget request to the US Congress for nuclear energy programmes was $755m.
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Kathleen Sullivan, an anti-nuclear specialist and disarmament education consultant with the United Nations Office of Disarmament Affairs, said it's not surprising that research critical of the nuclear energy and weapons isn't coming out of universities and departments that participate in nuclear research and development.

"It (the influence) of the nuclear lobby could vary from institution to institution," said Sullivan.

"If you look at the history of nuclear weapons manufacturing in the United States, you can see that a lot of research was influenced perverted, construed in a certain direction."

Sullivan points to the DOE-managed Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory at the University of California in Berkley (where some of the research for the first atomic bomb was done) as [color=limegreen]an example of how intertwined academia and government-funded nuclear science are.

Peace Love Light
tfw
[align=center][color=magenta]Liberty & Equality or Revolution[/align]



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Alarming readings in reactor #2
enenews.com... -addition-to-xenon-video
And #2 may have gone critical.....again
www3.nhk.or.jp...



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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You have to look at the reasons why this testing data was released now. As I have said before there has likely been ongoing fission with intermittent criticality all along. This is consistent with how TRN said that corium would behave. Remember criticality is simply fission = nuclear chain reactions. At a certain rate(sustained) = criticality. Corium will pulse, reach criticality and not be able to sustain it, and so on for a long long long long long time.

IMO, the fact that this data is being released is simply to prime us for a larger disclosure coming. ...



.....The discovery of an atomic reaction that can produce a nuclear explosion comes amid rising concerns about possible contamination after another radioactive hot spot was discovered in Tokyo on Oct. 29. It’s possible there are similar reactions occurring in the No. 1 and No. 3 reactors, the other cores damaged at the station, Matsumoto said.

Bloomberg


And yes, I believe we have a hole in #2 from what I can see of the analysis in here. Not the darker patch (which I think may be them trying to cover the view with trees), but the lighter irregular patch to the right.

This is interesting stuff, not surprising but infuriating, especially the link to the FOIA articles...
Source


Top 25: NRC’s internal documents from Fukushima made public after FOIA request from Enformable.com
Listed in no particular order
1.. March 14th, 2011 – NRC ONLY Update – All 3 Reactor cores likely damaged
2.. March 15th, 2011 UPDATE: 2000 EDT Telecon on Fukushima Daiichi – Unit 4 New Fire Broken Out – Doses in Area around 30R/hr
3.. March 15th 2011 – Unit 2 Containment Probably Breached – Loud Explosion – Containment Pressure Drop – Radiation Spike – Spent Fuel Fire
4.. March 15th, 2011 – All 3 Reactors have known fuel damage – 50 Staff on site – 5 may have received fatal radiation doses
5.. March 15th, 2011 – Fukushima Daiichi Units Degrading – Zirconium Fire at Reactor 4 SFP – Reactor 2 Possible Reactor Vessel Breach & Ex-Vessel Core Reaction
6.. March 12th 2011 12:52 PM FOAI Communication – Reactor 1 Water level was known to be below top of active fuel
7.. March 11th, 2011 – BBC is reporting radiation levels at reactor are 1000x normal. I feel like crying.
8.. March 15th, 2011 – Core Exposed at #2 Fukushima Daiichi
9.. March 15th, 2011 – Responding to inaccurate information in the news media – HELP CORRECT INACCURATE AND/OR MISLEADING NEWS REPORTS
10.. March 15th, 2011 – The fire’s back in unit 4 – Unit 4 pool has a full core load in it and needs full attention – Holes in the upper structure from the earlier hydrogen explosion in unit 4
11.. March 16th, 2011- ABC News Wants confirmation that things are definitely taking a turn for the worse – Per Holly – ignoring media calls
12.. March 17th, 2011 – RadNet isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. We should be careful
13.. March 17th, 2011 – This is a marathon, not a sprint – Take time to go outside and enjoy the spring
14.. March 18th, 2011 – There’s Got to be a ton of loose materials floating in the SFP – I would not be surprised if the top 10 feet or so of the sfp was sloshed out
15.. March 16th, 2011 – Assessing SFP Damage – SOARCA – Uncovered Spent Fuel Reports – Leak at Unit 4 SFP
16.. April 2nd, 2011 – Estimated 10-30%/daily drywell turnover leakage from failed penetrations – Please delete after reading
17.. March 30, 2011 – Reactor 2 Core Melted Through Containment Vessel – Workers “Lost the race” to save one of the reactors
18.. April 6th, 2011 – Japan just said there was a zirc fire in Unit 4 SFP. Did we know this? – Depends what is meant by “know.”
19.. March 20th, 2011 – The band of elevated dose rates up to 18 mi from plant to the northwest seems to coincide with “Lube Oil Fire” in Reactor 4 SFP
20.. March 14th, 2011 – Indications of Breach of Containment at Reactor 2
21.. March 12th, 2011 – To me it looked like a containment building disappearing in an explosive cloud. WTF.
22.. March 11th, 2011 – Fukushima Daiichi fuel could have been broken because iodine concentration in air began to be increased at the site boundary
23.. March 14th, 2011 – NRC Asked About Extra Security In Case of Mass Demonstrations at Meetings
24.. March 24th, 2011 – California Coastal Commission – Preliminary Report on Implications for Coastal California
25.. March 12th 2011 – Core Damage at Unit 1 Prior to Explosion



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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More New Photos



www.tepco.co.jp...

This is some weird sh!t!!! Trying to keep the BOOGIE MAN out!!!
www.tepco.co.jp...

- Purple Chive
edit on 2-11-2011 by Purplechive because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 07:50 PM
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Have you guys seen this?????
Tokyo plans to build a back-up city.

It sounds like a story ripped from the parody-filled pages of The Onion, but some Japanese lawmakers really do want to build a "backup city" that would take over the functions of Tokyo, including tourism, in the event of a catastrophe. The idea was floated last month at a Tokyo luncheon, with a follow-up in The Telegraph last week. "The idea of being able to have a backup, a spare battery for the functions of the nation ... isn't this really a good idea?" Hajime Ishii, a parliamentarian representing the ruling Democratic Party of Japan, was quoted as saying. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live Poll Is building a backup capital city a good idea? Yes: For Japan, it makes sense. No: This will never get off the ground. I'm torn (share your comments below). . VoteView Results Support for creating an urban Plan B has grown in the wake of the earthquake and tsunami that devastated Japan in March and led to the Fukushima nuclear crisis. "Preparations are already under way at various levels at various levels to find ways of mitigating possible far-reaching consequences of a much-expected earthquake striking Tokyo," the Foreign Correspondents Club of Japan said.


cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com...

Wonder why.



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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That is surprising. I was under the impression that there were no more satellite shots being allowed.

Too bad they cost so much or I would have jumped on the offer. I'd really like to see a series of sat photos, which would really hurt the piggybank.



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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WW, Im well aware that there is a good chance criticality has been ongoing since day one, in different degrees. I currently think most of the cores in 1 and 3 have left the building. Not convinced all of 2 has though. Some yes, all no.

But concerning the timing of the sampling and news release, I believe it has more to do with the Japanese govt finally taking a more hands on role, and demanding that Tepco test for these things.

And I dont agree at all that that is a hole in R2, and the stuff at enformable only strengthens my thoughts as below shows.




posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Krypton-85 up over 14,000% in one day at Reactor No. 2 — Kr-85 used to detect “plutonium separations”






“There was a “100-Fold Increase in Krypton-85 from November 1,” reports EX-SKF.




However, according to a study published in the Journal of Environmental Radioactivity, “Krypton-85 is the best indicator for clandestine plutonium separations” when conducting wide-area atmospheric monitoring.


enenews.com...

Sounds like they may be having trouble keeping that underground complex under wraps, or the MOX has high enough plutonium amounts to cause this.. A combination of the two is most likely. I'd be getting off the west coast of the Americas right now. And I would've evacuated Japan by march the 11th! Human I do hope you have a positive pressure carbon/hepa filter system in your house for the next few days if the wind changes...
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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 12:27 AM
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Ok...with a straight face....Tepco blames "Spontaneous, Natural, Radioactive, Fission.
enenews.com...
On that picture of the sealed up stairway. I couldn't help but wonder if there were a few missing workers under there? Was that a radiation read-out monitor in the lower right corner? It seemed to be connected to a plate touching the foam.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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Whether you have a large blob or a small blob, it will pulse (it's crust acts as a thermal barrier).
On zee whole thing... time will tell yes? Hard to hide. I just get mighty suspicious about new data suddenly released at the same time they have something to hide. We'll see.
edit on 3-11-2011 by Wertwog because: put on your helmets and moonboots



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 03:54 AM
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TEPCO Diagram of Spontaneous vs. Induced Fission



www.tepco.co.jp...


At around 7:20 pm on the same day, Japan Atomic Energy Agency evaluated that the TEPCO's analysis result of the short-half-life radionuclide such as Xe-133 and Xe-135 detection was valid. We consider that they were generated by the spontaneous fission.


www.tepco.co.jp...

The words "Spontaneous" and "Fission" together...lovely...

- Purple Chive



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 04:09 AM
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Originally published Wednesday, November 2, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Cantwell wants plan for floating Japan debris

The Washington Democrat inserted an amendment in a Senate bill to order NOAA to come up with a contingency plan for what could be the biggest onslaught of marine garbage ever to hit North America.

By Kyung M. Song
Seattle Times Washington bureau


o.seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016674184_tsunamidebris03m.html



WASHINGTON — The 2,000-mile-long debris field from the March tsunami in Japan is expected to reach beaches in Hawaii next winter and hit Washington state's coast starting in late 2013.

Yet U.S. authorities can't say yet how much of the massive flotsam will sink as it swirls through the North Pacific gyre and how much will wash ashore. They are pretty certain it won't be radioactive — requiring special disposal — but don't know for sure.

Sen. Maria Cantwell says the United States better prepare for whatever crosses the Pacific Ocean.

(...)

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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 06:59 AM
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Fukushima fears played down by Tepco



The Japanese power company Tepco has played down the detection of xenon at the melted-down Fukushima No 2 reactor, saying there is no evidence the nuclear reaction has started again.

Tepco said on Wednesday it had detected xenon, a fission byproduct, and as a precaution had poured into the reactor a mixture of water and boric acid, which helps prevent nuclear reactions. "Analysis suggests that it was not a criticality," said Ai Tanaka, a spokeswoman for Tepco.

www.guardian.co.uk...

Editorial: Closer monitoring and more explanation of Fukushima reactors needed



The government and Tokyo Electric Power Co., the operator of the tsunami-hit Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, should step up their monitoring of the plant's reactors to check whether nuclear fission is occurring and provide good explanations of the situation in the reactors to the public.

mdn.mainichi.jp...

Forgotten radioactive materials cropping up in wake of Fukushima nuclear crisis



Residents wary about radiation in the wake of the ongoing the crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant have been uncovering abandoned radioactive substances, with repeated discoveries of radium-266 in Tokyo's Setagaya Ward. Radioactive materials were used widely in the past, including in medical products and luminous paints.

After World War II, a law requiring people to obtain the government's permission when using such materials was put into effect, but the law was not always strictly abided by. Now, with many residents armed with dosimeters in the wake of the Fukushima crisis, it is possible that more radioactive materials may be uncovered.
mdn.mainichi.jp...



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