It is time to set the records straight. I have gotten so tired of these threads that I have decided to start one of my own to dispel some of the
nonsense. This was also in a response to another thread that I commented in that can be found
When you think about the return of a God, any kind of God that is talked about in most religions, most people think about the destruction of evil and
the return of true goodness... after all, the etymology of the word God means "the greatest good". Most religions talk about the return of someone
who will rescue us, perhaps all of us in some way, and again, the Mayans are no different except for one small detail...
...they had an exact date according to their God. It is "One Reed" at the end of the 5th Mayan "sun". This equates to December 21, 2012.
Gerald Benedict wrote a book called "The Mayan Prophecies for 2012", and it doesn't predict doomsday, but goes into very explicit detail about the
prophecies of this culture and of ones in the surrounding area.
What I was trying to explain in the previously mentioned thread is that there is a very deep spiritual connection to 2012 by the Mayans and many other
cultures, but I have the most detailed information handy on the Mayans so I'll start there and will be referring quite a bit to the book.
First of all, prophecy, when it comes to 2012, is misunderstood. The definition of prophecy as it pertains to Mayans and 2012 is completely different
than Old Testament prophecy or people like Nostradamus. Here is a quote from the book I mentioned above to set the context: (emphasis added)
All these forms (the kinds spoken of above) of prophecy can be found within the Mayan tradition, however, one very important element has to be
added. The authority of 'true' prophecy lies not just in the sources inspiring the prophet, but in the extent to which it adds new insight to the
received tradition of revelation. In this case the power of the prophecy goes beyond its apparent character of warning, and gives direction as to
how spiritual maturity can be advanced; such a prophecy elicits responses to its message that are both practical and transcendent. The
Mayan prophecies achieve this, especially those now communicated by contemporary Mayan day-keepers and elders such as Hunbatz Men. The Mayan
prophecies both alert us to the changes we are about to face, and at the same time enhance our spiritual awareness. So completely is the whole
notion of prophecy embedded in Mayan culture and way of life, that it can be thought of as their spiritual DNA.
Another inescapable fact is that the Mayans based their whole existence on the connection between us and nature and the understanding that human
beings are an integral part of nature... this was their religion in a way and they felt that they were inextricably connected to Nature's creator.
The mathematical intricacy and logic of their calendars is a visible and concrete form of this perception of nature.
I couldn't agree with that more. These people had an understanding and knowledge of things that people nowadays just fail to respect. We still have
no clue how they were imparted this knowledge, but they claim it was from a god-like human that was nothing like the Mayans and came from the sea. All
people nowadays recall about the Mayans is still-beating hearts being cut out of people, and that's it... complete ignorance to anything else. Moving
on... here is an ACTUAL prophecy from the Maya:
Would that he might return from the west, uniting us in commiseration over our present unhappy plight! This is the fulfillment of the prophecies
of Katun 5 Ahau... God grant that there may come a Deliverer from our afflictions, who will answer our prayers in Katun I Ahau!
- Chilam Balam of Tizimin
The above is a prophecy of the return of a Supreme Being or Teacher, which further speaks of Quetzalcoatl, who was an Olmec and Aztec
, but who was also known to the Maya as Kukulcan. There is a strong and growing belief that the prophecy may not necessarily refer to the
return of a physical God or being which was the same one that the Mayans and other cultures were visited by, but will be a spiritual movement of
people themselves taking on the character and attributes of the Supreme Being through their own individual spiritual evolution, to the point of
overcoming the duality of the subject-object relationship. It is a prophecy that resonates with almost all religions.
Quetzalcoatl is frequently represented as a feathered or plumed serpent, and because of this serpent symbolism, the prophecies of the return of
Quetzalcoatl/Kukulcan have important associations with the esoteric parallel of Hinduism's secret knowledge of kundalini and the seven chakras. It is
remarkable that the Maya taught about the seven power centers of the human body by which means the energy of the cosmos was assimilated and expressed.
The source of this energy, according to the Mayans, lies in the earth from where it begins to move; first to the base of the spine, then through each
of the seven chakras. This vital link between the Earth and the body is one of the central themes of the prophecies that speak of the urgent need
of humanity to recover its innate relationship with Nature.
So again, we have spiritual reference to the prophecies. Not doomsday. This prophecy goes on to talk about the return of Quetzalcoatl or
, which could mean the transformation of consciousness, or it could be the return of a supreme being of sorts, possibly the same one that
brought them the original knowledge that was imparted to them and convinced them to stop human sacrifice. In Mayan prophecy, it is the cycles of Venus
that that signal the return of Kukulcan and the consequent expansion of human consciousness. This same prophecy also speaks of Kukulcan's promise to
return after 'five full cycles of the dawn star'
, which is Venus as the Morning Star.
Hmmm.... Morning Star.... Venus... there is a theme emerging....but before I digress and go off on that tangent, here's the kicker...
The galactic synchronization of December 21, 2012 will be preceded by a transit of Venus on June 6th of 2012.
So.... what we have is similar to what EVERY religion talks about with the return of a supreme being of sorts, and that includes the Mayans who
believed in the return of Hunab K'u, or the original Creator. However, there are some that believe that it may not be a being, but a return to a type
of consciousness. Either way, it's not doom.
These prophecies which are based on the movements of Venus and other astrological alignments. The return of Kulkulcan/Quetzalcoatl is marked by
6/6/2012, which is heralded by the transit of Venus. The end of the 5th "Sun", or World Age, is the visible conjunction of the sun with the
center of the Milky Way, which to the Maya, represents the Tree of Life.
The most important aspect of this prophecy is that the coming
galactic alignment will produce some type of energetic effect that will impact our consciousness. The prophecy around Venus isn't just about Venus,
but is specific of its transit across the sun and speaks of a critical period of transition for both the planet and humanity. (What's happening
around the world today???) The prophecy around Venus also goes on to call for self-sacrifice in the form of restraint when facing the problems of our
society and planet.
Last but not least... the Mayan prophecies speak of unity in humankind and the power of sharply focused collective thought - that its potential could
be the most powerful energy humankind has ever experienced. They prophesied that we would "forget" our cosmic wisdom and become obsessed in material
ways, but that one day, we would retrieve that wisdom and have a deeper understanding of who we are and our relationship to nature and the
I feel like that time is here.
If you read the book I mentioned, and do a little research, you'll see that a lot of what the Mayans and ancient cultures believed would happen in
the future is in fact happening today. Their prophecies were about the rise and fall of technology and materialism, and the return of spirit and a
shared higher consciousness, or at least an awareness of our consciousness and how we are all connected with one another, the earth and the rest of
the Universe. There is something special happening, good and bad, and people can feel it everywhere... it feels like a dam about to burst. After
following various researchers, reading books, watching documentaries and movies on different theological subjects, I really think the Mayans, Indians
(west Indie) and native Americans deserve more credit for their stories.
I hope this thread inspires others to see the positive side of 2012 and realize that the media and many other groups ARE using this to stir
controversy and hype to profit from, and that there is more to it. There are plenty of authentic researchers that you can find out about and take what
they into consideration. While I do NOT believe in Calleman's date, I do believe in a lot of his other research and Ian Lungold contributed much to
the understanding of Mayan's view of consciousness. I recommend watching his YouTube videos of his presentations.
I'll try to answer questions if possible but it's late and I must sleep for work.