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Day of Rage: America?

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posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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I am just trying to get a general feel of what people think would happen should a facebook page, like what happened in the ME, appeared which was about a Day of Rage in America.

So what would you do?
What do you think the government would do?
What do you think the media would do?
How well do you think it would be received?
Do you think it has a good chance of happening?

Thank you.




posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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I feel left out misoir. What facebook page was this?



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 08:19 PM
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I don't know about that newfangled Facebook stuff but let me tell you, every day on planet earth is a day of rage for somebody, if not most somebodies. Peace.
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posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 08:23 PM
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Well, Misoir, you're going to get a lot of opinions, so I might as well throw one more on the fire. But let me ask a question first. By Day of Rage are you thinking of a protest of up to 50,000 people, or are you thinking of something really massive?

The unions could probably put together a decent demonstration, and the Tea Party could, but other than that.....I don't see anything broader happening because there isn't any rage yet, maybe serious irritation, not enough to get rubber bulleted or gassed for.

The media might pay more attention if the target of the protest was someone or something they didn't like.
I don't see it happening



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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Our Standard of living is WAY too high for people to care about a "day of rage" sorry it's the truth.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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Good questions... Not living in the US, but it could be happening in parallel in Canada...

So what would you do?

Follow the crowd! For the specifics, you can't expect anyone to reveal that publicly...


What do you think the government would do?

Use whatever they have in store for crowd control, starting with "soft" measures, and going harder day after day. If it gets out of hand, they flee to secret underground bases, You can also expect a major distraction, like a false flag terror attack to use for total Martial Law. Prepare for the worst.

What do you think the media would do?

Talk about "criminal gangs", violent illegal immigrants or drunk hooligans spreading chaos in the streets. That's what they ALWAYS do in times of insurgency in the West. Even the anti-fascist forces in Spain, during the Civil War, were called "criminals" and "terrorists" by the mainstream media of the time. In Greece today they say the same of rioters, refugees and other so-called "troublemakers".

How well do you think it would be received?

Depends who gains the monopoly of History.

Do you think it has a good chance of happening?

How can anyone know?

Aside, perhaps, the very people who are behind these days of rage, if there are specific organizations, But you obviously won't have an answer coming directly from them... unlikely they hang out on ATS.
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posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
I am just trying to get a general feel of what people think would happen should a facebook page, like what happened in the ME, appeared which was about a Day of Rage in America.


Assuming the American public set aside political differences it could be win. In my opinion though, we just aren't there yet.


So what would you do?


Absolutely nothing. In my case I'm gonna be playing the role of the reactionary. I'd prefer to see where this is all going because it is my opinion that any popular movement will be coopted quickly to pervert it's purpose at worst and it make it ineffective at best.


What do you think the government would do?


I think that depends wholly on the nature of the protest. If a bunch of Laizze Faire capitalists go around gnashing their teeth and waving signs I doubt will see any real sparks, same with a bunch of coffeeshoppe socialists. Now, if the crowds are just there for a general "We hate everything we see" sort of thing, that very well could push the State to start taking action. We already know what that action looks like.


What do you think the media would do?


Well this is an interesting question,

The MSM would do what the MSM would always do, but I think if the protests had a more "Free Market" feel those entities may actually support it.

Now thanks to the internet we have a whole different kind of media that can't really be curtailed. So, assuming these protests were able to actually force State reaction the blogosphere would be ablaze with the events as they were happening. The MSM's spin would be negligible because we can the info firsthand and in real time.

So, the actual impact the MSM would have, I believe would be lessened when compared to previous eras.


How well do you think it would be received?


By the public at large?

I think the idea is very popular. What kid isn't angry about something. Giving them a vague place to express those feelings and focus on what maybe bothering them collectively works wonder. Look at Anonymous. Just creating the platform for people to stand on brings thousands globally together to vent and take action.


Do you think it has a good chance of happening?


Well, I am sure the protests will happen.

Will they create any significant change? I honestly don't know. There are a lot of divisive factors but at the same time there is plenty to unite over. I will say this; that regardless of what this protest is actually about, an overreaction by the State could very well be the catalyst necessary to turn this into what you are thinking.
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posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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Totaly out there but, what would the cops think if they were shot at with paintball guns, or rubber bullets, aren't we within our rights of protection and peaceful protest. I stand by waiting to be flamed.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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What would the cops think? I'm guessing they would think "I'm glad I brought lots of ammo."
Firing rubber bullets would NOT be seen as peacefully protesting.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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OK, here's the thing -- I just don't think mass demonstrations of a physical nature are going to make much impression in the US unless they turn seriously ugly, like the early 1990s LA riots, for example. Anything peaceful, no matter how large, is apt to be ignored by the media and swallowed up in the vastness of indifference.

The problem we come to in threads like these is that anything that is truly "effective" in terms of forcing real change from the grassroots up has a high probablity of being disruptive to somebody or something, and thus likely to run against the law and public order. And here's the thing -- the T&C of the board, the laws of many nations, the dictates of common sense, and other factors all limit the scope of what can be meaningfully said about such hypothetical situations.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
I am just trying to get a general feel of what people think would happen should a facebook page, like what happened in the ME, appeared which was about a Day of Rage in America.

So what would you do?
What do you think the government would do?
What do you think the media would do?
How well do you think it would be received?
Do you think it has a good chance of happening?

Thank you.

I would be at home, protecting my family.
Deploy local LE and possibly national Guard.
Wet their pants in excitement and fear.
Received by who?
Yes, and I think it will be very ugly.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 09:58 PM
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I guess what im trying to get at is, If the police are going to be their (which they will) why do they have to be armed (go ahead and start the ridicule). Why cant they stand there and take it like a big boy, just like the protesters, who are not armed (that we know of) . They are their to keep the order of the protest right?. Do you ever see a person brandishing a gun at a protest, why cant the cops respect this and disarm? ( i dont want to hear some cockamamy crap either) we cant even be on the same grounds as people?. Maybe those who want to protest would show up in riot gear, with sheilds and batons. Their is no civil people left out their? . An old fashion fist fight if you may, Do they really need to be decked out head to toe carrying A-R 15's, and they wonder why they sometimes get a bad image. Ah the jackbooted thugs do redeem themselves sometimes.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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I respect you too much to ridicule you. But my reasons may be cockamamie, you tell me.

First, the cops will be outnumbered hundreds to one. That doesn't make for a fair fistfight. Even the odds?
Second, It would be quite reasonable for a cop, surrounded by dozens of protestors carrying sticks at least, to think he'll be lucky to get out of it without a massive concussion, if not trampled to death.
Third, It's almost expected that rioters will set cars and maybe buildings on fire. That should be prevented.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by smallblockchevy
I guess what im trying to get at is, If the police are going to be their (which they will) why do they have to be armed (go ahead and start the ridicule). Why cant they stand there and take it like a big boy, just like the protesters, who are not armed (that we know of) . They are their to keep the order of the protest right?. Do you ever see a person brandishing a gun at a protest, why cant the cops respect this and disarm? ( i dont want to hear some cockamamy crap either) we cant even be on the same grounds as people?. Maybe those who want to protest would show up in riot gear, with sheilds and batons. Their is no civil people left out their? . An old fashion fist fight if you may, Do they really need to be decked out head to toe carrying A-R 15's, and they wonder why they sometimes get a bad image. Ah the jackbooted thugs do redeem themselves sometimes.


Why would the Police be armed? Because they are not paid to be bullet traps or punching bags.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 10:14 PM
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I appreciate that, i sometimes have a hard time saying in words what i could say face to face. You have good points to be looked at but this isnt canada when the maple leafs lose is it. Our protests for the most part are rather docile, no?. I understand they are outnumbered by substantial odds, but look like real people at least, not like your from a damn prison state. I am more in tune to the andy griffith mayberry type of cop around here so it is a little intimidating to see someone who is decked out for war.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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I think that the citizens of America are so dumbed down and whipped that there would be little or no participation. That is sad, but I am afraid it is true. I don't know what it would take to get us all off our duffs, but proclaiming a day of rage would not do it. It would have to be some sort of action taken by the government, such as an attack by the government or a major food shortage, or all the banks closing, something along those lines that would unite all of us and push us to action.
Seeashrink



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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Sorry for a double post, Im not trying to start a argument here. But the way they carry themselves at the so called protests is a little too heavy for me. A gun is used for hunting and protection, not to intimidate the masses to kiss feet, no offense to the LEOs



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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Dear smallblockchevy,

Sure, I'd like to have an officer stroll up to me in a pretty uniform and say "Here, now. What seems to be the trouble?" I honestly would.

But if we're talking about a riot or a massive demonstration, I'm afraid the police want to look intimidating. If their mere appearance can make the crowd hestitate or cause some to go home, then part of the problem is solved with no violence at all.

And, some of the intimidating gear is protective. Helmets, bullet proof vests, and so on.

I wish it could be done your way, but I don't see how.



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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Dear smallblockchevy,

You know, I think you've got something there. I wasn't thinking. How do you feel about the non-lethal weapons; sound, gas, high pressure hoses, lasers, that sort of thing?



posted on Mar, 5 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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Maybe that is what is keeping the people on the couch, intimidation. I have several cops for family and friends, and i respect their authority. I myself think the way to do this (unfeaseable) is to shut down everything, i mean everything. If half of the us would skip work, or school for a day or two you might turn heads. I know full well that alot of people are living paycheck to paycheck, but grow a sack. Dont go to work or school and peacefully march on our GOV. No gas is bought that day, no deliveries, not rapid transit, grocery stores closed. Nothing is gained without some comprimise and nothing comes for free, you have to take it for what it is worth. Our forefathers knew of such a great sacrifce, and some lost their lives doing so.



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