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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by inkyminds
I fricken hate people who call America, "the homeland." You sound like Nazis.
Just my two cents.
There were channels of approval, courts to petition, etc.. to allow them to spy on suspected bad guys before the Patriot Act. They can use those channels again. They dont need some blanket ability to violate someones Constitutionally guaranteed right to privacy.
A homeland (rel. country of origin and native land) is the concept of the place (cultural geography) to which an ethnic group holds a long history and a deep cultural association with —the country in which a particular national identity began. As a common noun, it simply connotes the country of one's origin. When used as a proper noun, the word, as well as its cognates in other languages (i.e. Heimatland in German) often have ethnic nationalist connotations: Fatherland, Motherland, Mother country, each having some distinct interpretation according to nationality or historical usage.
Originally posted by inkyminds
reply to post by DragonTattooz
You thinking "Homeland" makes me a nazi does not bode well for your understanding of basic English terminology.
In addition, it speaks ill of your understanding of recent history since the term you are thinking of is 'Fatherland".
Lastly, your implication that I am a Nazi and A Fascist tells me you don't have the ability to debate the issue on the actual facts.
A homeland (rel. country of origin and native land) is the concept of the place (cultural geography) to which an ethnic group holds a long history and a deep cultural association with —the country in which a particular national identity began. As a common noun, it simply connotes the country of one's origin. When used as a proper noun, the word, as well as its cognates in other languages (i.e. Heimatland in German) often have ethnic nationalist connotations: Fatherland, Motherland, Mother country, each having some distinct interpretation according to nationality or historical usage.
Originally posted by DragonTattooz
Don't try to educate me. I've forgotten more about Nazi Germany than you will ever know. My knowledge so far eclipses yours that you are not in my game, let alone league.
Your ridiculous argument is not worthy of any more of my time. You simply don't get it, and I don't have the time or patience to explain it to you. I think someone already used the word "obtuse" in this thread, correct?
Done.
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
reply to post by inkyminds
Did you even read my post on the 4th amendment? That is how they are affecting me personally by trashing the Constitution which endangers every American.(This includes me, in case you cannot figure that out.)
Originally posted by inkyminds
Originally posted by lastrebel
Originally posted by inkyminds
So we think the government shouldn't be able to tap a phone they know is being used by someone plotting against the homeland? Isn't that one of the main functions of government? To protect the homeland?
You need to be less obvious.............LOL
HOMELAND indeed.............LOL
So, you disagree that protection of the homeland is one of the most important responsibilities of the Federal Government?
Originally posted by lastrebel
How much do you get paid to come on here and be a government shill? Or are you an agent just assigned this task?
Originally posted by earthdude
. Words like "homeland" and 'fatherland" are terms ment to instill blind patriotism.
Originally posted by lastrebel
reply to post by inkyminds
post removed by staff
Originally posted by CapnCaveman
Hmmm, my memory might not be the best, but didn't we elect Obama for president (besides for "change") because he promised to end the Patriot Act?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Originally posted by American-philosopher
To me the patriot Act takes away probable cause. Oh you wanna search that person's house just use the Patriot Act. The Patriot Act is replacing probable cause because when you use that phrase you automatically think terrorism.
Originally posted by lastrebel
reply to post by inkyminds
What part of it allows the government to use infiltrators to go into sites to preach the government Gospel?