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Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
reply to post by GoldenFleece
I like the way you'll immediately take this guy's word on his credentials because he agrees with you. No questions asked.
And your information on the Payne Stewart timeline is wrong. The intercept you're talking about happened nearly three hours after the last communication with the Lear jet.
Originally posted by liejunkie01
Originally posted by Deuteronomy 23:13
reply to post by liejunkie01
Man, I hate to break it to you but you essentially said nothing. You have proved nothing. You do not know what you are talking about. The NIST theory is nothing but sophistry. And that is all you have.
Ok, I told you that it wouldn't matter. I am glad that I didn't take the time to explain it to you. Heat does directly affect the atomic structure of steel. Look it up. Obviously you do not know what you are talking about. Keep spreading your misinformation. You look like you know what you are talking about.
By the way, did you take a college level course for metallurgy?
EDIT: I am about to leave for welding lab. Yes, I do deal with steel everyday. This is my last semester of a two year program. Your post makes me laugh, thank you, I needed a laugh before I leave.edit on 25-2-2011 by liejunkie01 because: EDIT
I've never met any conspiracist here who accepts weed's opinion.
Although it's often well-sourced, and it's obvious he knows what he's talking about.
I also believe he's given his credentials to the website owner.
I was just amused by GoldenFleece's readiness to believe someone anonymous, with no posting history to speak of, simply because they endorse his views.
At 0927:18 EDT, N47BA acknowledged the clearance by stating, "three nine zero bravo alpha." This was the last known radio transmission from the airplane.4 The sound of the cabin altitude aural warning5 was not heard on the ATC recording of this transmission.6
At 0933:38 EDT (6 minutes and 20 seconds after N47BA acknowledged the previous clearance), the controller instructed N47BA to change radio frequencies and contact another Jacksonville ARTCC controller. The controller received no response from N47BA. The controller called the flight five more times over the next 4 1/2 minutes but received no response.
About 0952 CDT,7 a USAF F-16 test pilot from the 40th Flight Test Squadron at Eglin Air Force Base (AFB), Florida, was vectored to within 8 nm of N47BA.8 About 0954 CDT, at a range of 2,000 feet from the accident airplane and an altitude of about 46,400 feet,9 the test pilot made two radio calls to N47BA but did not receive a response. About 1000 CDT, the test pilot began a visual inspection of N47BA. There was no visible damage to the airplane, and he did not see ice accumulation on the exterior of the airplane. Both engines were running, and the rotating beacon was on. He stated that he could not see inside the passenger section of the airplane because the windows seemed to be dark. Further, he stated that the entire right cockpit windshield was opaque, as if condensation or ice covered the inside. He also indicated that the left cockpit windshield was opaque, although several sections of the center of the windshield seemed to be only thinly covered by condensation or ice; a small rectangular section of the windshield was clear, with only a small section of the glare shield visible through this area. He did not see any flight control movement. About 1012 CDT, he concluded his inspection of N47BA and proceeded to Scott AFB, Illinois.
.....saying believe me instead of Guy S. Razer. This guy can be check out if he is real or not....
One of the recent darlings of the 9/11 truth movement has been retired Lieutenant Colonel Guy Razer, who claims to be a former Air Force fighter pilot. As has been pointed out in a thread on the JREF forum, his all too convenient name aside, he has absolutely nothing to back up his claim, and in interviews has given no impression that he has any knowledge specific to someone with a long distinguished career as a fighter pilot. There is no Internet-available information on him, other than his Myspace page, with the nomenclature Supereagle69, which appears more to have been created by a teenager with Top Gun fantasies than a 20 year veteran of the Air Force.
...."But who is this guy? I found no info about him. Only that he is on the patriotsquoestion911 list, and stj911.org members list. No photos, no other personal info, nothing.
We have a retired airforce pilot, so I suspected he would talk about NORAD and the military response. But no, he only talks about WTC 7 and repeats all the classic lies. No mention of NORAD or military.
He repeats the classic lines "treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government", "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic" and "expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice". Does this sound familiar to you? I've heard them a hundred thousand times. Classic Alex Jones material. Sounds almost manufactured by the Jones/Prisonplanet fearmongering factory".....
...an expert in aviation
What is assinine is the assumption that an airplane is going to fell a structure over 1000 times more massive by flying into it. The buildings were also made of tougher stuff. Building: steel and concrete. Airplane: predominately aluminum.
Since you have been preaching how true the government events of 911 are concerning everything related to the four airplanes and their alleged crashes, I would like you to show a little evidence of hundreds perhaps, thousands of American pilots that support the OS and support you views?