reply to post by reluctantpawn
I agree. On a side note, they can get pay raises at the rate of inflation under the new bill. They CANNOT get more unless there is a statewide
referendum vote by the rest of the people who actually pay the taxes to give them more.
A Government workers union is funny. The State isn't a company, Who is this Union Collective bargaining against? Who are they bargaining to get more
from? The TAXPAYER is who! Why is this Union entitled to taxpayer money in the form of mandatory dues from taxpayer funded salaries? And what are
those dues used for? To support a "political party". As with "Corporate Welfare" recipients donating to their favorite politicians, this is the same
thing and should be illegal. What "entitles" this Union to mandatory donations in the form of dues from Taxpayer funded salaries, thus taxpayer funded
It is ridiculous.
In addition to eliminating collective-bargaining rights, the legislation also would make public workers pay half the costs of their pensions and
at least 12.6 percent of their health care coverage — increases Walker calls "modest" compared with those in the private sector.
Republican leaders said they expected Wisconsin residents would be pleased with the savings the bill would achieve — $30 million by July 1 and $300
million over the next two years to address a $3.6 billion budget shortfall.
Unions still could represent workers, but could not seek pay increases above those pegged to the Consumer Price Index unless approved by a public
referendum. Unions also could not force employees to pay dues and would have to hold annual votes to stay organized.
In exchange for bearing more costs and losing bargaining leverage, public employees were promised no furloughs or layoffs. Walker has threatened to
order layoffs of up to 6,000 state workers if the measure does not pass
Oh man, THEY actually might have to save their OWN money for retirement? They may have to pay 12% of the cost of their generous health insurance plans
instead of the taxpayer picking up the whole tab? Oh the unfairness!!
We half of the country who have real jobs that require performance to stay employed already pay much much more than that and you believe that we need
to pick up YOUR full tab because.... because... your a GOVERNMENT employee??? Tough. Pay for your own retirement in 401k contributions like the rest
A "Government" Workers Union who's sole purpose is to gain additional taxpayer money for personal and union leadership benefits that are far beyond
what the taxpayers receive themselves because almost no company can offer those benefits and still stay in business! Kind of like a mini-elite club,
We Government Employees, You Serfs who fund us. We hungry, need more serf money for lifetime pensions and free health benefits for life. Oh, yeah,
also need that taxpayer money from mandatory dues to fund the Democratic Party. So, MORE Government workers equals more mandatory dues equals more
political donations for the party.... smells good doesn't it?
So, don't expect sympathy for the rest of us who fork over 40% or more of our income for federal, state, medicare, SS, local tax, healthcare, property
tax, registration fees, etc. and then we also contribute to our own 401k's for retirement. (Besides Police, Fire, and a few other "real" State
Government jobs, most of them are inefficient, almost un-fireable paper pushers).
No, this is not to say to NOT keep the promise of a pension for those already set to retire in a few years but any new government employee should be
set-up with a self directed / funded 401k type retirement account (kind of like all the people who fund their payroll).
edit on 19-2-2011 by
infolurker because: (no reason given)